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On 12/17/2008 at 10:52 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:46:33AM +0100, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: Hi listmates!

This year is a good year I would say: First, Adobe heard our prayers and offered us a 64bit plugin for Flash.

And now: Sun offers us FINALLY also a 64bit plugin of Java! That's just crazy insane great news for the end of this year. https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html

To very bad they were way to late again to have it in our just upcoming 11.1 release... pity.

And it is not yet released, this link points to a beta of update 12.

Correct, nevertheless it's absolutely this kind of news that has to be mentioned. It shows that the companies no longer just ignore us. And what does 'beta' in really mean? It's a tag put on Software to state that you offer less support on it, isn't it? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On 12/17/2008 at 10:52 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote: To very bad they were way to late again to have it in our just upcoming 11.1 release... pity.

And it is not yet released, this link points to a beta of update 12.

Correct, nevertheless it's absolutely this kind of news that has to be mentioned. It shows that the companies no longer just ignore us. And what does 'beta' in really mean? It's a tag put on Software to state that you offer less support on it, isn't it?

For some commercial software, we're not allowed to distribute Betas. I'm not sure about Sun Java, I just want to point out that it might be an issue. If it's a final version, we could release it as online update - but I'm not sure we want to release a Beta even if the legal side is ok,

Ah, well, I did not post it as a request to put it for distribution yet... my intention was more of 'informativ' purpose that it finally exists. Sorry if I caused confusion with this. for the point when it's coming out of Early Stage, it would be very good if we can get an online update of it of course.. as it will eliminate another big issue on 64bit installs (downgrading browsers to 32bit, then fighting with all other plugins, and most probably end up going for a pure 32bit system if they need java up to now). Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On 12/17/2008 at 1:24 PM, James Knott wrote: Dominique Leuenberger wrote: Hi listmates!

This year is a good year I would say: First, Adobe heard our prayers and offered us a 64bit plugin for Flash.

And now: Sun offers us FINALLY also a 64bit plugin of Java! That's just crazy insane great news for the end of this year. https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html

To very bad they were way to late again to have it in our just upcoming 11.1 release... pity.

Dominique

I guess they've realized that since new computers tend to be 64 bit these days, they should follow. Hopefully the rest of the plugins will follow soon.

James, That was close to the last plugin I was missing for 64bit... the other one is a Novell Plugin (iPrint)... but as I don't really rely on it, I never cared for it. What other plugins are you still missing? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 18 of December 2008 14:44:11 Joe Morris wrote:

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Hi Dominique,

the u11 will be available via online update too, so u12 is not problem :-)

BTW: I have written a small HOWTO install and setup the u12 JRE in openSUSE system. I had problems with wiki yesterday, so the HOWTO is on pack.suse.cz [1]

[1] http://pack.suse.cz/mvyskocil/sun_java_u12_howto/

I have installed it, (10.3 x86_64 for a few more days), using your howto, but though it shows up in Addons, or about:plugins, it will not work. I can switch back via update-alternatives to ice-tea 1.7 and the test applet will work. Does it need more than the plugin installed into update-alternatives? Does jave or jre also need pointed to the u12 JRE to work? When I try the test applet, I get a popup saying it needs to update the cache every time. Any ideas? Not a big problem, more curiosity to test out the plugin, since ice-tea works (for the most part). TIA for any ideas.

Hi, Sun claims that new Java Plugin is not compatible with Firefox 2 and 10.3 was shipped with that version. So maybe you can find the FF3 for 10.3 in Mozilla:/ OBS repo and try it again. I tested the HOWTO only on 11.1. MV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On 12/18/2008 10:43 PM, Michal Vyskocil wrote:

On Thursday 18 of December 2008 14:44:11 Joe Morris wrote:

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BTW: I have written a small HOWTO install and setup the u12 JRE in openSUSE system. I had problems with wiki yesterday, so the HOWTO is on pack.suse.cz [1]

[1] http://pack.suse.cz/mvyskocil/sun_java_u12_howto/

I have installed it, (10.3 x86_64 for a few more days), using your howto, but though it shows up in Addons, or about:plugins, it will not work. I can switch back via update-alternatives to ice-tea 1.7 and the test applet will work. Does it need more than the plugin installed into update-alternatives?

Hi,

Sun claims that new Java Plugin is not compatible with Firefox 2 and 10.3 was shipped with that version. So maybe you can find the FF3 for 10.3 in Mozilla:/ OBS repo and try it again.

I tested the HOWTO only on 11.1.

MV

Just to let you know, I was running 3.05, so it wasn't the Firefox version. But, I have upgraded to 11.1, and the same link made previously via update-alternatives in 10.3 now works in 11.1. So there must be something with that version and 10.3 that do not play well together. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org