[opensuse] 10.3 AWESOME!!
NO complaints from me - not yet anyway!! This is the FIRST 64-bit release that has worked well, with NO yet known problems! And, there's a performance gain over 10.2 32-bit. Even the 64-bit nVidia driver provides improved performace......I have an Athalon dual core beast with 1G RAM, 250GB SATA2 Seagate, etc. GREAT job boys and girls of the openSUSE team!!!!!!! Fred -- This message originated from a Linux computer using Open Source software: openSuSE Linux 10.2. No Gates, no Windows....just Linux - STABLE & SECURE! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 23:32 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
NO complaints from me - not yet anyway!! This is the FIRST 64-bit release that has worked well, with NO yet known problems! And, there's a performance gain over 10.2 32-bit. Even the 64-bit nVidia driver provides improved performace......I have an Athalon dual core beast with 1G RAM, 250GB SATA2 Seagate, etc.
GREAT job boys and girls of the openSUSE team!!!!!!!
Fred
I've been using 64-bit Linux since August and in these two months I've
tried at least 3/4 64-bit distribution. I must say, openSUSE is the only
distribution which worked out-of-the-box and with everything detected
and working.
You guys are simply brilliant.
Now I can work in 64 bit environment. :D
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arijit sarkar
Fred A. Miller wrote:
NO complaints from me - not yet anyway!! This is the FIRST 64-bit release that has worked well, with NO yet known problems! And, there's a performance gain over 10.2 32-bit. Even the 64-bit nVidia driver provides improved performace......I have an Athalon dual core beast with 1G RAM, 250GB SATA2 Seagate, etc.
GREAT job boys and girls of the openSUSE team!!!!!!!
Fred
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Fred A. Miller wrote:
NO complaints from me
Good for you mate. If awesome means more or less the same then I agree with you. I've just spent 10 hours upgrading our network with nothing to show for it at the end. It's no quicker nor slower. Apart from a green ldap screen it looks and feels exactly the same as 10.2. The splash on openoffice only goes to put off my girls even more. Can't they pay any modicum of respect to art and design. At all? Hype and expectation. This really does seem like a hobbyists only upgrade. And yes, I like the repo facility. But what help is that to me in an office where we do word processing using Linux because we don't get viruses anymore when we do? Sorry lads. Now please go out and get some fresh air, call your girlfriend, apologise, and take her out to dinner. The lot of you. And DON'T mention Linux right? Go On. Now! Love from Lynn x x x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I'm sorry for you're problems. Perhaps we could help a little? The thing about most distro or operating system upgrades, for Linux or Windows or Mac OS is that, if your previous system was working for everything you needed it to, and there is nothing in the new version that really interests you, then there is really no need to upgrade to a new version. I'm using 10.2 right now, and while I am going to upgrade to 10.3 when my boxed edition comes in the mail, I'm relatively happy with 10.2 at the moment.
The splash on openoffice only goes to put off my girls even more. Can't they pay any modicum of respect to art and design. At all?
If you're referring to the ugly portion of grey around the green on all the SUSE-specific splash screens, yes, I have absolutely NO clue who thought to leave that in there. However, does that really effect your work?
Hype and expectation. This really does seem like a hobbyists only upgrade.
Most are. However, someone working in an office (or, like me, who use Linux as their home desktop) there are many cool improvements. I'm not sure which desktop (KDE or GNOME) you're running, but if you let us know, maybe we share some cool new features that may be hidden.
Sorry lads. Now please go out and get some fresh air, call your girlfriend, apologise, and take her out to dinner. The lot of you. And DON'T mention Linux right? Go On. Now!
That really is just an unnecessary comment for several reasons. And it is not needed. Overall, I want to let you know that I'm just a little confused as to what is wrong with 10.3? Are you upset that it didn't have everything you thought it would? Or does it do something that negatively affects productivity. We're all here to help, so just let us know. On Sat, 2007-10-06 at 18:38 +0200, primm wrote:
Fred A. Miller wrote:
NO complaints from me
Good for you mate. If awesome means more or less the same then I agree with you. I've just spent 10 hours upgrading our network with nothing to show for it at the end. It's no quicker nor slower. Apart from a green ldap screen it looks and feels exactly the same as 10.2. The splash on openoffice only goes to put off my girls even more. Can't they pay any modicum of respect to art and design. At all?
Hype and expectation. This really does seem like a hobbyists only upgrade. And yes, I like the repo facility. But what help is that to me in an office where we do word processing using Linux because we don't get viruses anymore when we do?
Sorry lads. Now please go out and get some fresh air, call your girlfriend, apologise, and take her out to dinner. The lot of you. And DON'T mention Linux right? Go On. Now!
Love from Lynn x x x
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Hype and expectation. This really does seem like a hobbyists only upgrade.
Most are. However, someone working in an office (or, like me, who use Linux as their home desktop) there are many cool improvements. I'm not sure which desktop (KDE or GNOME) you're running, but if you let us know, maybe we share some cool new features that may be hidden.
Sorry lads. Now please go out and get some fresh air, call your girlfriend, apologise, and take her out to dinner. The lot of you. And DON'T mention Linux right? Go On. Now!
That really is just an unnecessary comment for several reasons. And it is not needed.
Hi Not needed, maybe. But true, yes. Oh, OK then. I'm sorry I offended. I saved the day by installing compiz. shift + f9 is soothing for those of us who live in the desert in Spain. It takes you and hour to realise it's a toggle though! And sorry again. I didn't realise. . . Love, Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
Hype and expectation. This really does seem like a hobbyists only upgrade. Most are. However, someone working in an office (or, like me, who use Linux as their home desktop) there are many cool improvements. I'm not sure which desktop (KDE or GNOME) you're running, but if you let us know, maybe we share some cool new features that may be hidden.
Sorry lads. Now please go out and get some fresh air, call your girlfriend, apologise, and take her out to dinner. The lot of you. And DON'T mention Linux right? Go On. Now! That really is just an unnecessary comment for several reasons. And it is not needed.
Hi
Not needed, maybe. But true, yes. Oh, OK then. I'm sorry I offended.
At least I do not feel offended. The coment might have been slightly OT, but I found it refreshing and the rest of your mail was on topic. After all, most things take that much time to do in Linux, that once in a while, one should get back to real live, if there is one.
I saved the day by installing compiz. shift + f9 is soothing for those of us who live in the desert in Spain. It takes you and hour to realise it's a toggle though!
Yes, this is Linux, it works, but "normal people" like me would not work with it, if it were not for a reason...
And sorry again. I didn't realise. . .
you're wellcome! Eberhard
Love, Lynn x
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On Saturday 06 October 2007 22:16, Kevin Dupuy wrote:
Overall, I want to let you know that I'm just a little confused as to what is wrong with 10.3? Are you upset that it didn't have everything you thought it would? Or does it do something that negatively affects productivity.
I don't want to puncture the general conviviality, but on my short acquaintance so far with the one-CD KDE disk, I have to agree with Lynn. Some have mentioned fonts. I tried to install the legacy nVidia 9639 drivers on this test box, and they didn't work (I suspect they are quite buggy). But the fonts before the nVidia attempt (ie direct from the install) were quite different from the fonts after the attempt (following a sax2 -r -m 0=nv). I found that odd. The livery goes back to SuSE antecedents - some will like it, some won't, but it's easily changed, as others have mentioned. After install, 10.3 lost sight of the CD-drive. This is something I've noticed intermittently on 10.2, where a hal restart usually fixes it. But this should not be happening at all on a mature distro like openSUSE. Such was my annoyance that I actually installed Ubuntu 7.04 on a spare partition, to check what it would do. It had no trouble seeing and using the CD-drive. (Incidentally, I then did a conversion to Kubuntu to see if it would fall over, but it didn't. I'm now doing an upgrade to 7.10, again to see if that will make it fall over.) The most disappointing feature to date is the revised package manager. This is faster, the one-click install is a stroke of genius, and it's easier to add community repos. But I find it depressing that at no point during beta testing does anyone seem to have asked whether the user will want to check repos that he may have checked just 10 minutes before. It does say "downloading", but it may in fact only be reading a cache of the download - I don't know. If the latter, that's even more depressing, because anyone who has used Smart, Adept, Synaptic or whatever will know that they load a lot faster. With most of the repos checked, this takes 2-3 minutes on this 4-year old PC (Synaptic loads all the Ubuntu universe and multiverse and a few others in less than a minute on the same PC, by the way). I went to check my network settings, and goodness me, I was given a free 2-minute repo check before the network applet even opened! Richard Bos asked 3 or 4 years ago (in the time of the 8 series) why apt4rpm couldn't be made the default package manager, and with hindsight that would have been inspired. How Novell can spend 2 years (since before 10.0) on "improving" the package manager and still get it so wrong beats me. You're probably right that for "heavy lifting" on the server/admin/office side, openSUSE is still the way to go. But I'm really wondering whether I can recommend it any longer as the ideal beginner's distro. Sigh. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 primm wrote:
Fred A. Miller wrote:
NO complaints from me
Good for you mate. If awesome means more or less the same then I agree with you. I've just spent 10 hours upgrading our network with nothing to show for it at the end. It's no quicker nor slower. Apart from a green ldap screen it looks and feels exactly the same as 10.2. The splash on openoffice only goes to put off my girls even more. Can't they pay any modicum of respect to art and design. At all?
Hype and expectation. This really does seem like a hobbyists only upgrade. And yes, I like the repo facility. But what help is that to me in an office where we do word processing using Linux because we don't get viruses anymore when we do?
Sorry lads. Now please go out and get some fresh air, call your girlfriend, apologise, and take her out to dinner. The lot of you. And DON'T mention Linux right? Go On. Now!
Love from Lynn x x x
Braver than me Gunga Din :-) Generally, I would not deploy a shiny new OS in a production context until a) I had played around with it in the lab or on old knackered test PC for a couple of months, b) worked out what (if any) benefits to myself and the users deployment would give (on the general principle if it ain't broke don't fix it), c) had some time to get together some basic user documentation on the change on another general principle that anything that reduces the chances of becoming the main course of the inaugural barbecue is probably a good idea. As I am running a few non-SuSE related and non-standard bits and pieces I am holding off deploying the upgrade to 10.3 until I have worked out what impact this going to have on things I am working on. Meanwhile, I am tracking the reports of the early adopters with considerable interest ;-) - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHCKpBasN0sSnLmgIRAgTUAKCKo7Kvhk71zobccF+MuE4/KlEm2gCgrcAq 9gncYk9L2JVqEyepZQoVj1w= =u+z3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 6. Oktober 2007 18:38:18 schrieb primm:
Fred A. Miller wrote:
NO complaints from me
Good for you mate. If awesome means more or less the same then I agree with you. I've just spent 10 hours upgrading our network with nothing to show for it at the end. It's no quicker nor slower. Apart from a green ldap screen it looks and feels exactly the same as 10.2. The splash on openoffice only goes to put off my girls even more. Can't they pay any modicum of respect to art and design. At all? You're aware of the fact that you can change these splash(y) screens? A good place to start your search is kde-look.org[0] I once found a nice blue one there :)
And if you don't find one there, create one yourself and replace the existing one ;) Greetings Michael [0] http://www.kde-look.org
participants (9)
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arijit sarkar
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David C. Rankin
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Eberhard Roloff
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Fred A. Miller
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G T Smith
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Kevin Donnelly
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Kevin Dupuy
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Michael Skiba
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primm