On Monday 30 August 2010 03:14:10 pm Malcolm wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:58:05 +0200 "Carlos E. R."

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On 2010-08-30 20:17, Malcolm wrote:

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Hi List I have created a bug requesting adding the google-talkplugin to openSUSE Non free, please review and add your support :)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635607

I suppose it is the responsibility of Google itself to build and distribute that RPM. I'm not sure oS can do that - what license does it have?

True, but if the source comes out (which I hope does) we will be good to go.

AFAIK, proprietary, there is no info in the files they produce, the cron job (apt one is for debian) says bsd

<snip> Was there not ,once upon a time, a way to install ".deb" files on Suse? I seem to remember that from the dark ages. The 64 bit version is supposed to be just a .deb file to install as if it were a rpm file. But of course it doesn't. Boxee, and some other's are doing this sort of thing,that is, going Debian rather than rpm. Seems as if Ubuntu is doing a better pr job and a much better job of explaining how many users they have and how many will use whatever it is that is being packaged than our organization is currently doing. Just as desktop Linux grows up , it appears the world believes it has instead just quietly dies. Guess we need to go back to whining, and fighting amongst ourselves and among distros. Even the tech press, who , by this time really ought to know better seem to buy into this idea, since we are quiet, we must not exist anymore. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* John Andersen [08-30-10 18:17]:

I seem to remember a way to install debs as well.

Name : deb Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.15.6.1 Vendor: obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tools Release : 3.1 Build Date: Thu 15 Apr 2010 06:13:06 PM EDT Install Date: Fri 16 Apr 2010 08:18:58 AM EDT Build Host: build32 Group : System/Packages Source RPM: deb-1.15.6.1-3.1.src.rpm Size : 3944744 License: GPLv2+ Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 15 Apr 2010 06:14:21 PM EDT, Key ID 85753aa5eefefde9 URL : http://www.debian.org Summary : Tools for Debian Packages Description : This package contains tools for working with Debian packages. It makes it possible to create and extract Debian packages. If Alien is installed, the packages can be converted to RPMs. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2010-08-31 00:47, John Andersen wrote:

On 8/30/2010 3:41 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* John Andersen <> [08-30-10 18:17]:

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Already tried Alien. It builds a package, but it won't install. It claims libcrypto.so.0.0.8 and libssl are needed. Even going out and installing those packages does not not work, as they continue to be shown as fail dependencies.

If you read the original post and bugzilla, you will see that he is already building an rpm, successfully, and he explains how. He is simply requesting that such an RPM is build and distributed, officially, by openSUSE. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))

Hallo John Andersen, op 31-08-10 00:14 schreef je: [...]

Wasn't there a dep to rpm utility somewhere?

alien! :) -- Harrie Baken Tekstbureau TekstBaken (web)teksten & optimalisatie van websites (seo) www.tekstbaken.nl | harriebaken@tekstbaken.nl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 17:34 -0400, jfweber@gilweber.com wrote:

On Monday 30 August 2010 03:14:10 pm Malcolm wrote:

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:58:05 +0200 "Carlos E. R."

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On 2010-08-30 20:17, Malcolm wrote:

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Hi List I have created a bug requesting adding the google-talkplugin to openSUSE Non free, please review and add your support :)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635607

I suppose it is the responsibility of Google itself to build and distribute that RPM. I'm not sure oS can do that - what license does it have?

True, but if the source comes out (which I hope does) we will be good to go.

AFAIK, proprietary, there is no info in the files they produce, the cron job (apt one is for debian) says bsd

<snip>

Was there not ,once upon a time, a way to install ".deb" files on Suse? I seem to remember that from the dark ages. The 64 bit version is supposed to be just a .deb file to install as if it were a rpm file. But of course it doesn't. Boxee, and some other's are doing this sort of thing,that is, going Debian rather than rpm.

man alien

Seems as if Ubuntu is doing a better pr job and a much better job of explaining how many users they have and how many will use whatever it is that is being packaged than our organization is currently doing.

Cannonical is a for profit business and they have worked on the Ubuntu brand to the point that seems to the distro of choice for many former Windows users, I don't know if they're doing the same as Novell and selling a business version, or just making money from support contracts.

Just as desktop Linux grows up , it appears the world believes it has instead just quietly dies. Guess we need to go back to whining, and fighting amongst ourselves and among distros. Even the tech press, who , by this time really ought to know better seem to buy into this idea, since we are quiet, we must not exist anymore.

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