Hi, I am getting infrequent and seemingly random lock-ups on my openSUSE 10.2 - as in, nothing responds anymore (no ctrl+alt+backspace, nothing) and the only solution is a computer reboot. How do I go about diagnosing this problem? I am using KDE. Thanks, Sorin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 27 May 2007 10:42, Sorin Peste wrote:
Hi,
I am getting infrequent and seemingly random lock-ups on my openSUSE 10.2 - as in, nothing responds anymore (no ctrl+alt+backspace, nothing) and the only solution is a computer reboot. How do I go about diagnosing this problem? I am using KDE.
Start by booting from you openSUSE distribution / installation media and select the MemTest86+ boot option. Let it run for at least one full pass, preferably two. If it finds RAM problems, you'll have to replace the RAM. (As an interim work-around, you may be able to go into your system's BIOS control panel and reduce the clock speed or memory access timings. Sometimes this will allow marginal RAM to operate without overt error.) If MemTest86+ finds no errors, then you'll have to look elsewhere. The next most likely problem is a disk error. If its supported, you should use the S.M.A.R.T. utilities to see if the drive is reporting errors and if so, migrate to a replacement as soon as possible. (Note that while the S in S.M.A.R.T. is technically "SCSI," many SATA and (I think) IDE drives support it, as well). Otherwise, each drive vendor usually makes available specialized stand-alone diagnostic software (or, possibly, software that runs only in Windows) that can tell you if the drive is ailing. If you bought the drive separately, then probably you got a disc including this software. And even if you didn't, you can probably go to the drive manufacturer's Web site and find a downloadable ISO image (or possible a diskette image) that you can use to create a boot disc from which you can run their diagnostic software. Lastly, there's an outside chance that the problem is with the video card, and you can boot to a non-GUI / non-X run level (include a '3' in the kernel boot arguments). This might tax the video card less and could allow you to run longer without error. I don't know how to diagnose video card problems, though.
Thanks, Sorin
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
[...] (Note that while the S in S.M.A.R.T. is technically "SCSI," many SATA and (I think) IDE drives support it, as well).
S.M.A.R.T. means "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology" and the S has nothing to do with SCSI (although this technology has been introduced for SCSI disks first before it became pretty much a standard for all SCSI and ATA disks in the mid 90ies). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 27 May 2007 11:38, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
[...] (Note that while the S in S.M.A.R.T. is technically "SCSI," many SATA and (I think) IDE drives support it, as well).
S.M.A.R.T. means "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology" and the S has nothing to do with SCSI (although this technology has been introduced for SCSI disks first before it became pretty much a standard for all SCSI and ATA disks in the mid 90ies).
Oops. I don't know where I got that idea from. Perhaps 'cause it appeared first on SCSI drives. Or maybe I saw some other source refer to it that way. Sorry for the misinformation. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 27 May 2007 18:56, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 27 May 2007 10:42, Sorin Peste wrote:
Hi,
I am getting infrequent and seemingly random lock-ups on my openSUSE 10.2 - as in, nothing responds anymore (no ctrl+alt+backspace, nothing) and the only solution is a computer reboot. How do I go about diagnosing this problem? I am using KDE.
Lastly, there's an outside chance that the problem is with the video card, and you can boot to a non-GUI / non-X run level (include a '3' in the kernel boot arguments). This might tax the video card less and could allow you to run longer without error. I don't know how to diagnose video card problems, though.
Thanks, Sorin
Randall Schulz
I have come to this conclusion tentatively with a problem I have been having intermittently. It appeared temperature related, but not conclusively. I swapped the graphics card with an almost identical machine and it appears to have solved the problem - on both machines. The machine which now has the suspect card runs at a lower resolution and slower scan rates, so I am guessing it is thermal stress on the graphics card. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007-05-28 10:58, Vince L wrote:
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I have come to this conclusion tentatively with a problem I have been having intermittently. It appeared temperature related, but not conclusively. I swapped the graphics card with an almost identical machine and it appears to have solved the problem - on both machines. The machine which now has the suspect card runs at a lower resolution and slower scan rates, so I am guessing it is thermal stress on the graphics card.
Assuming that the graphics card already has an adequate heat sink/fan, try putting in a case fan that moves 40 cubic feet per minute or more (that's about 1.13 cu. m./min), and see if the problem persists. -- Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- HG Wells -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sorin Peste wrote:
Hi,
I am getting infrequent and seemingly random lock-ups on my openSUSE 10.2 - as in, nothing responds anymore (no ctrl+alt+backspace, nothing) and the only solution is a computer reboot. How do I go about diagnosing this problem? I am using KDE.
Thanks, Sorin
Can you access it with ssh? Is there a lot of disk activity? Other symptoms? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Sorin Peste wrote:
Hi,
I am getting infrequent and seemingly random lock-ups on my openSUSE 10.2 - as in, nothing responds anymore (no ctrl+alt+backspace, nothing) and the only solution is a computer reboot. How do I go about diagnosing this problem? I am using KDE.
Thanks, Sorin
Can you access it with ssh? Is there a lot of disk activity? Other symptoms?
I don't have sshd installed - this is my desktop system. Disk activity is normal (though I am using beagle). The lockups are infrequent, maybe one or two per week, and I can't tie them to anything I am doing at that time. I didn't move any hardware around in the last couple of months at least. When the last one occurred, earlier today, I was actively using the computer. Sorin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:20:02 +0300
Sorin Peste
I don't have sshd installed - this is my desktop system. Disk activity is normal (though I am using beagle). The lockups are infrequent, maybe one or two per week, and I can't tie them to anything I am doing at that time. I didn't move any hardware around in the last couple of months at least.
When the last one occurred, earlier today, I was actively using the computer. In past experience, lockups are related to the GUI, not to the kernel. Since the display manager is in control of the keyboard, you can't do ctrl-alt-F1. In the past, I would use my laptop or my wife's Windows system using Putty, which is one reason for having sshd installed.
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Jerry Feldman
In past experience, lockups are related to the GUI, not to the kernel. Since the display manager is in control of the keyboard, you can't do ctrl-alt-F1. In the past, I would use my laptop or my wife's Windows system using Putty, which is one reason for having sshd installed. Another thing you can do is open the physical serial port (or usb dongle) so
On Sunday 27 May 2007 20:51, Jerry Feldman wrote: that you have an agetty waiting around. This has come in handy for me more than a few times as I've been experimenting... just provides one more interface alternative for those times when X misbehaves. And of course this is mandatory for a head-less machine as a backup interface or serial console. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 28 May 2007 03:20, Sorin Peste wrote:
I don't have sshd installed - this is my desktop system. Disk activity is normal (though I am using beagle). The lockups are infrequent, maybe one or two per week, and I can't tie them to anything I am doing at that time. I didn't move any hardware around in the last couple of months at least.
If you turn off beagle, is the problem persist? -- Regards, Adi Nugroho -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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