[opensuse] zypper dup 42.3 -> 15.0 loses all LibreOffice Templates/Settings, KDE Plastic/Keramik styles not available?

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David C. Rankin

3 Nov 2019 3 Nov '19

14:42

All, After having done several full installs of 15.0 and 15.1 with no notable issues, I did my first zypper dup --downloadinadvance after having done a zypper clean and zypper ref. The zypper dup went well (even with the NVidia drivers and cinelerra repos). However, I have two frustrating problems that are not present in the fresh installs of 15.0 and 15.1. First with LibreOffice, all templates, settings and dictionaries are gone. Nowhere to be found in the menus. Next, I use Keramik as the KDE3 style (in both 15.0 and 15.1 fresh installs), but after a zypper dup, the Plastik and Keramik styles do not show in the menus. The versions of the packages are exactly the same between the working 15.0 fresh install box and this box. The only styles shown available are CDE, Windows 95, Platinum and SGI (yuk). None of the core KDE widget styles are listed in Appearance->Style. kdeglobals still has my widgetStyle=keramik, but it displays as CDE (first in shown list I guess) The library files are all there: $ find . -type f -name "*keramik*" ./share/apps/kwin/keramik.desktop ./share/apps/kstyle/themes/keramik.themerc ./share/doc/HTML/en/krec/krec-keramik.png ./lib64/kde3/kwin3_keramik.so ./lib64/kde3/kwin_keramik_config.so ./lib64/kde3/kwin3_keramik.la ./lib64/kde3/kwin_keramik_config.la ./lib64/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.so ./lib64/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.la ./lib64/kde3/kstyle_keramik_config.so ./lib64/kde3/kstyle_keramik_config.la I have run kbuildsycoca --noincremental to eliminate a cache issue and restarted the desktop, no joy.... So where has my LibreOffice config gone and where have the default styles gone? Any thoughts/guesses? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Carlos E. R.

3 Nov 3 Nov

19:36

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/2019 15.42, David C. Rankin wrote:

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All,

After having done several full installs of 15.0 and 15.1 with no not able issues, I did my first zypper dup --downloadinadvance after having don e a zypper clean and zypper ref.

The zypper dup went well (even with the NVidia drivers and cinelerra repos). However, I have two frustrating problems that are not present in the f resh installs of 15.0 and 15.1. First with LibreOffice, all templates, sett ings and dictionaries are gone. Nowhere to be found in the menus.

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So where has my LibreOffice config gone and where have the default s tyles gone? Any thoughts/guesses?

I think there was a major LO update involved, possibly the package names have changed and were not included. There is an "office" pattern. In 15.0 yast there are still groups, but not in 15.1 so I can not suggest which. Or you can compare your list of packages with mine: Telcontar:~ # rpm -qa | grep -i libre | grep -i office libreoffice-mailmerge-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-share-linker-1-lp151.3.3.1.noarch libreoffice-calc-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-qt5-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-branding-upstream-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.noarch libreofficekit-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-base-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-gtk2-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-math-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-l10n-es-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.noarch libreoffice-icon-themes-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.noarch libreoffice-calc-extensions-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-gtk3-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-base-drivers-firebird-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-gnome-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-pyuno-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-l10n-en-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.noarch libreoffice-filters-optional-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-impress-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-writer-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-writer-extensions-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 libreoffice-draw-6.2.7.1-lp151.3.6.1.x86_64 Telcontar:~ # Now, the config was at some time in ~/.libreoffice, then it migrated to ~/.config/libreoffice. And inside I can see: /3-suse Dec 15 2015 /4 current /4-suse Jan 7 2019

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Next, I use Keramik as the KDE3 style (in both 15.0 and 15.1 fresh installs), but after a zypper dup, the Plastik and Keramik styles do n ot show in the menus. The versions of the packages are exactly the same betwee n the working 15.0 fresh install box and this box. The only styles shown ava ilable are CDE, Windows 95, Platinum and SGI (yuk). None of the core KDE widg et styles are listed in Appearance->Style. kdeglobals still has my widgetStyle=keramik, but it displays as CDE (first in shown list I gue ss)

The library files are all there:

$ find . -type f -name "*keramik*" ./share/apps/kwin/keramik.desktop ./share/apps/kstyle/themes/keramik.themerc ./share/doc/HTML/en/krec/krec-keramik.png ./lib64/kde3/kwin3_keramik.so ./lib64/kde3/kwin_keramik_config.so ./lib64/kde3/kwin3_keramik.la ./lib64/kde3/kwin_keramik_config.la ./lib64/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.so ./lib64/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.la ./lib64/kde3/kstyle_keramik_config.so ./lib64/kde3/kstyle_keramik_config.la

I have run kbuildsycoca --noincremental to eliminate a cache issue a nd restarted the desktop, no joy....

I have all these installed - but I do not use kde3: Telcontar:~ # locate keramik ... /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kstyle_keramik_config.la /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kstyle_keramik_config.so /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kwin3_keramik.la /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kwin3_keramik.so /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kwin_keramik_config.la /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kwin_keramik_config.so /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.la /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.so /opt/kde3/share/apps/kstyle/themes/keramik.themerc /opt/kde3/share/apps/kwin/keramik.desktop /opt/kde3/share/doc/HTML/es/krec/krec-keramik.png /opt/kde3/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/kstyle_keramik_config.mo - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXb8sRAAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1ZkLAJ45WQiINLJe8+iySmMQcPL78kubWQCdHe13NscEo8TO3J0zUeu8E2tbQvA= =nFDt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

4 Nov 4 Nov

04:53

On 11/03/2019 01:36 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Now, the config was at some time in ~/.libreoffice, then it migrated to ~/.config/libreoffice. And inside I can see:

/3-suse Dec 15 2015 /4 current /4-suse Jan 7 2019

Thank you Carlos!, rm -r /4 ln -s 4-suse 4 All templates and settings are back in LO. I still don't know WTF the issue is with the default KDE3 widget styles disappearing. kdebase and kdelib should be reading and recognizing the installed keramik and plastik widgetStyles, but for some reason after zypper dup it doesn't. Even after building TDE for years, I'm not aware of any config file that would control it, really really bizarre. I also forgot to add a lock for MozillaFirefox that ended up at version 70 that totally wiped out my Firefox profile. Downgrading got 60.0.8 back, but the profile was still borked. (all the carefully crafted NoScript rules caput) Do you know why FF 70 is over 20MB larger than FF60? What on earth could cause a browser to balloon by 20MB (my first instinct is that it probably isn't something that is good for the user....) ARRG!!! I can send you this message!!! zypper up fscked up my gpg private keys. I go to send and enigmail says it can't find my private key for this account Huh?? Trying import from back... SOB, it had wiped out my key created in 42.3 - dunno why. I re-imported my secret keys and now hopefully this will send.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

11:00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/2019 05.53, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 11/03/2019 01:36 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Now, the config was at some time in ~/.libreoffice, then it migrated to ~/.config/libreoffice. And inside I can see:

/3-suse Dec 15 2015 /4 current /4-suse Jan 7 2019

Thank you Carlos!,

rm -r /4 ln -s 4-suse 4

All templates and settings are back in LO.

Ah! Good to know. I remember I had to reenter my settings.

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I still don't know WTF the issue is with the default KDE3 widget styles disappearing. kdebase and kdelib should be reading and recognizing the installed keramik and plastik widgetStyles, but for some reason after zypper dup it doesn't.

Even after building TDE for years, I'm not aware of any config file that would control it, really really bizarre.

I also forgot to add a lock for MozillaFirefox that ended up at version 70 that totally wiped out my Firefox profile. Downgrading got 60.0.8 back, but the profile was still borked. (all the carefully crafted NoScript rules caput)

Do you know why FF 70 is over 20MB larger than FF60?

But Leap 15.1 is still on 60, not 70. You must be using some extra repo, perhaps experimental.

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What on earth could cause a browser to balloon by 20MB (my first instinct is that it probably isn't something that is good for the user....)

ARRG!!! I can send you this message!!! zypper up fscked up my gpg private keys. I go to send and enigmail says it can't find my private key for this account Huh??

Didn't you see my post where I reported that it is broken, two weeks ago ? [opensuse] Thunderbird fails to GPG sign S/MIME messages It is not your dup. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXcAEvAAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1f3rAJ4pRt9ADhuV0kGrQc8y8pzYK+MSiACeNtOXD9SYPzjaMZCNyujEpCRCyLU= =aDqe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

20 Nov 20 Nov

07:15

New subject: S O L V E D - Re: [opensuse] zypper dup 42.3 -> 15.0 loses all LibreOffice Templates/Settings, KDE Plastic/Keramik styles not available?

On 11/03/2019 10:53 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Thank you Carlos!,

rm -r /4 ln -s 4-suse 4

All templates and settings are back in LO. I still don't know WTF the issue is with the default KDE3 widget styles disappearing. kdebase and kdelib should be reading and recognizing the installed keramik and plastik widgetStyles, but for some reason after zypper dup it doesn't.

zypper dup with allowed vendor change pulls qt3 from packman instead of the KDE3 repo. After noticing minor version differences and running zypper dup --from kde and switching qt3 back to the version in the KDE3 repo, all styles magically re-appeared. Would not have ever thought packman and the KDE3 repo both provided qt3, but they do -- an they do not function the same -- not by a long shot... But solved! https://paste.opensuse.org/54930470 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

12:00

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 20/11/2019 08.15, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 11/03/2019 10:53 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Thank you Carlos!,

rm -r /4 ln -s 4-suse 4

All templates and settings are back in LO. I still don't know WTF the issue is with the default KDE3 widget styles disappearing. kdebase and kdelib should be reading and recognizing the installed keramik and plastik widgetStyles, but for some reason after zypper dup it doesn't.

zypper dup with allowed vendor change pulls qt3 from packman instead of the KDE3 repo. After noticing minor version differences and running zypper dup --from kde and switching qt3 back to the version in the KDE3 repo, all styles magically re-appeared.

Would not have ever thought packman and the KDE3 repo both provided qt3, but they do -- an they do not function the same -- not by a long shot...

I think you should tell the packman people about this issue. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXdUq0QAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1WhiAKCUnKRJrAclMCEgkievsFFcZQuQ6gCgjfePhdOTubGJ7/nKbBg6P0jmK6c= =7LIm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

21:15

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On 11/20/2019 06:00 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 20/11/2019 08.15, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Would not have ever thought packman and the KDE3 repo both provided qt3, but they do -- an they do not function the same -- not by a long shot...

I think you should tell the packman people about this issue.

Reported on freenode/#packman. I don't know where else to report it. I provided the following on IRC: <IRC quote> <drankin> Leap 15.0, packman qt3-3.3.8c-lp150.157.3 is incompatible with the qt3 from the openSUSE KDE3 repo and the packman qt3 causes loss of all KDE3 styles. Where do I report this? <drankin> This was discussed in the 11/03 thread on the openSUSE community list under the title [[opensuse] zypper dup 42.3 -> 15.0 loses all LibreOffice Templates/Settings, KDE Plastic/Keramik styles not available?] <drankin> It is likely a make configuration problem with the packman qt3 package. The KDE3 compatible build from openSUSE is as in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/src/q... Let me know if you know somewhere else for packman to report this so it gets to the right people. I've gotten no response yet. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Carlos E. R.

21:24

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2019-11-20 at 15:15 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 11/20/2019 06:00 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 20/11/2019 08.15, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Would not have ever thought packman and the KDE3 repo both provided qt3, but they do -- an they do not function the same -- not by a long shot...

I think you should tell the packman people about this issue.

Reported on freenode/#packman. I don't know where else to report it. I provided the following on IRC:

They have a mail list, which is where I mention issues: List-Id: "The Packman Mailinglist // Die Packman Mailingliste $english and german$" List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.links2linux.de/cgi-bin/mailman/options/packman, mailto:packman-request@links2linux.de?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.links2linux.de/pipermail/packman/ List-Post: mailto:packman@links2linux.de List-Help: mailto:packman-request@links2linux.de?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.links2linux.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/packman, mailto:packman-request@links2linux.de?subject=subscribe

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Let me know if you know somewhere else for packman to report this so it gets to the right people. I've gotten no response yet.

I think there is also a bugzilla site :-? An old archived post I have from 2013 says: https://bugs.links2linux.org/ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXdWvJhwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVfj0AoItW7MbGTlwcrwdhoKWC nDqVYNW6AJ9gxxyoFAe+c5f21Relpzibhq0Stg== =7FmL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

21:47

New subject: S O L V E D - Re: [opensuse] zypper dup 42.3 -> 15.0 loses all LibreOffice Templates/Settings, KDE Plastic/Keramik styles not available?

On 11/20/2019 03:24 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I think there is also a bugzilla site :-?

An old archived post I have from 2013 says: https://bugs.links2linux.org/

Got a reply from "" They suggest that packman links to KDE:KDE3 on openSUSE, but that cannot be right as the versions are different?? At least they have it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Dave Howorth

22:09

New subject: S O L V E D - Re: [opensuse] zypper dup 42.3 -> 15.0 loses all LibreOffice Templates/Settings, KDE Plastic/Keramik styles not available?

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:47:12 -0600 "David C. Rankin" wrote:

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On 11/20/2019 03:24 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I think there is also a bugzilla site :-?

An old archived post I have from 2013 says: https://bugs.links2linux.org/

Got a reply from ""

They suggest that packman links to KDE:KDE3 on openSUSE, but that cannot be right as the versions are different?? At least they have it.

When I looked earlier it seemed packman had a slightly newer release, so I don't believe that. Might want to double-check though. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

22:28

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On 11/20/2019 04:09 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:47:12 -0600 "David C. Rankin" wrote:

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On 11/20/2019 03:24 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I think there is also a bugzilla site :-?

An old archived post I have from 2013 says: https://bugs.links2linux.org/

Got a reply from ""

They suggest that packman links to KDE:KDE3 on openSUSE, but that cannot be right as the versions are different?? At least they have it.

When I looked earlier it seemed packman had a slightly newer release, so I don't believe that. Might want to double-check though.

I did: packman: qt3-3.3.8c-lp150.157.3 KDE:KDE3: qt3-3.3.8c-lp150.153.1 They can't be links -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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