Michael Hasenstein wrote:

... a major new release which is really the 7.0, while the 7.0 that's out there is 6.5. Oh well.

Well said :)

kernel 2.4 (choice of 2.2) and glibc-2.2 are only the _external_ news, a lot of things changed on the suse side as well, like new sysV init (implementing the lastest LSB draft that now specifies more than before), and lots of stuff that I'm also only finding out about while beta testing right now... oh, and it's 7 CDs now.

So if its in beta testing now, it won't be released before next month. Thats a long gap from 7.0. Hope its really good. Any plans on implementing a better update system? Like RH or Aduva et al? -- Nadeem Hasan nhasan@nadmm.com http://www.nadmm.com/

Michael Hasenstein wrote:

Nadeem Hasan wrote:

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Any plans on implementing a better update system? Like RH or Aduva et al?

Online updates within one system: Was planned for this release for a long time, didn't make it into 7.0. Now it's there. yast2 module "online updates", checks on the suse server for updates.

That is cool. Does it categorise them into security, minor, major etc? Would it also include detailed change description? How about apt-rpm? That would be cool too, having dependencies resolved automatically.

Or do you mean update between the versions? Haven't looked at it yet, I'm only a by-stander in the process and only do it now, late in the process, because I'm curious.

No, you got me right the first time :) Upgardes already work great. Finally, would you like to speculate (off the record, of course) on the release date for 7.1? -- Nadeem Hasan nhasan@nadmm.com http://www.nadmm.com/

Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

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.... a major new release which is really the 7.0, while the 7.0 that's out there is 6.5. Oh well.

Now, don't go bashing those poor SuSE guys... oh, well: Michael Hasenstein <mha@suse.com>

It's not really our fault although it clearly is (confusing, I know). It was planned to have major changes like 2.4 and kde2, both of which didn't come as originally promised. Plus the new product strategy. It also wasn't completely planned that this new version now has so many more important changes, it just happened... e.g. LSB progressed, etc. This is Linux, we have very little control over many of the things that are always happening. There are tens of thousands of other players influencing everything...

On Thu, Jan 25, Herman Knief wrote:

Anybody know of a source for utilities providing Veritas or NetApp style "snapshots" of a file system?

AFAIK, you can do that with LVM. LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90443 Nuernberg, Germany Old age is not for sissies.