How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool? Thanks, Greg Wallace -----Original Message----- From: Carl William Spitzer IV [mailto:cwsiv@myrealbox.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:59 PM To: Greg Wallace Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 04:56, Greg Wallace wrote:
Can someone tell me what would happen under the following scenario --
* I do a complete Linux backup under YAST, selecting all of the various options to make sure I include everything. * I immediately upgrade Linux to a later version (say going from 8.1 to 8.2). * Something is hosed, so I want to go back to the 8.1 version I had before I did the install.
Would a full recovery using YAST get me back to what I had before -- back to my 8.1 with everything intact and working?
Mondo Rescue. Although noting beats haveing a second hard drive. CWSIV
Greg Wallace wrote:
How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool?
Thanks, Greg Wallace
From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser) -- 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 Dump Microsoft Software - Stop virus email Email: n5xwb@hal-pc.org " http://counter.li.org " #279316
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux. Thanks, Greg W -----Original Message----- From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups Greg Wallace wrote:
How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool?
Thanks, Greg Wallace
From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser) -- 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 Dump Microsoft Software - Stop virus email Email: n5xwb@hal-pc.org " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Greg Wallace wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
-----Original Message----- From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups
Greg Wallace wrote:
How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool?
Thanks, Greg Wallace
From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser)
I think someone already mentioned this, but have you looked at mondo rescue? I find it quite good for doing images. It allows you to backup to multiple media types. http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/ Just installed it onto my 9.1 pro system and doing a backup as I type! :-) --Sayf -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full
It looks like this is the Norton Ghost equivalent for Linux. I like it. I just went to the web address you show. Do I need any other software on my machine other than just Mondo (what is Debian, Mindi, Mendi-Kernel, BusyBox?)? Thanks, Greg W -----Original Message----- From: Blue Moose IT Support [mailto:support@bluemooseit.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 2:10 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups Greg Wallace wrote: partition.
When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
-----Original Message----- From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups
Greg Wallace wrote:
How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool?
Thanks, Greg Wallace
From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser)
I think someone already mentioned this, but have you looked at mondo rescue? I find it quite good for doing images. It allows you to backup to multiple media types. http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/ Just installed it onto my 9.1 pro system and doing a backup as I type! :-) --Sayf -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greg Wallace wrote: | It looks like this is the Norton Ghost equivalent for Linux. I like it. I | just went to the web address you show. Do I need any other software on my | machine other than just Mondo (what is Debian, Mindi, Mendi-Kernel, | BusyBox?)? | | Thanks, | Greg W | | -----Original Message----- | From: Blue Moose IT Support [mailto:support@bluemooseit.com] | Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 2:10 AM | To: suse-linux-e@suse.com | Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups | | Greg Wallace wrote: | |>Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for |>Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full | | partition. | |>When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are |>right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened |>in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux. |> |>Thanks, |>Greg W |> |>-----Original Message----- |>From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] |>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM |>Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com |>Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups |> |>Greg Wallace wrote: |> |> |>>How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool? |>> |>>Thanks, |>>Greg Wallace |>> |> |> From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a |>file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. |>If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. |>Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) |>and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser) |> | | | I think someone already mentioned this, but have you looked at mondo | rescue? I find it quite good for doing images. It allows you to backup | to multiple media types. | | http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/ | | Just installed it onto my 9.1 pro system and doing a backup as I type! :-) | | --Sayf | As I said I just installed it onto my 9.1 laptop. I had to install several additional applications besides mindi and mondo. I would recommend going here first: http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike/ I experienced a seg fault after installing the rpm's from mondo's site. This Mike person has rpm's that will run on the 2.6 kernel. I'm not sure which version you are running, but if you have broadband you can download the installation cd from mondo's website, burn it to disc and just run the install script. It should detect your OS and install whatever you are missing. Keep in mind that mondo is not a *quick* process. I'm still running that backup I start several hours ago. My laptop is a P4M 2.4Ghz with 512MB Dell Inspiron 8500. Not exactly a slow computer. It does run a bit quicker on my AMD 2500+ desktop though :-) Let me know if you need any help with it. - --Sayf - -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA6/fhh6qZaDhhuVMRAhRyAKCPaIEVR24mUg7X60Ptj3AOjF+1cQCcCgrv D1QVnGmGNl+ZtvnOHZ2WbiY= =rqXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:17:22 +0100, you wrote: [much snippage]
Keep in mind that mondo is not a *quick* process. I'm still running that backup I start several hours ago. My laptop is a P4M 2.4Ghz with 512MB Dell Inspiron 8500. Not exactly a slow computer. It does run a bit quicker on my AMD 2500+ desktop though :-)
Let me know if you need any help with it.
I had 2 problems with mondo: 1) It bangs out at 50 media. 2) My backup ran for 11 days trying to burn my file server to DVDs - before I got nailed by the 50 media problem. I went from Mondo to DAR. After I wrote DARomizer it was acceptably fast for a full server backup, and none of the other problems that I had with Mondo either. Mike- -- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments,
Thanks. I think you're the first to mention this tool. I'll put it on my list. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Michael W.Cocke [mailto:cocke@catherders.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:05 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:17:22 +0100, you wrote: [much snippage]
Keep in mind that mondo is not a *quick* process. I'm still running that backup I start several hours ago. My laptop is a P4M 2.4Ghz with 512MB Dell Inspiron 8500. Not exactly a slow computer. It does run a bit quicker on my AMD 2500+ desktop though :-)
Let me know if you need any help with it.
I had 2 problems with mondo: 1) It bangs out at 50 media. 2) My backup ran for 11 days trying to burn my file server to DVDs - before I got nailed by the 50 media problem. I went from Mondo to DAR. After I wrote DARomizer it was acceptably fast for a full server backup, and none of the other problems that I had with Mondo either. Mike- -- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments, -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 15:17, Blue Moose IT Support wrote:
As I said I just installed it onto my 9.1 laptop. I had to install several additional applications besides mindi and mondo. I would recommend going here first:
http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike/
I experienced a seg fault after installing the rpm's from mondo's site. This Mike person has rpm's that will run on the 2.6 kernel.
That's me.. ;-) the latest version 2.02 of Mondo, 1.02 of Mindi work here. the earlier version didn't have support for the 2.4 kernel.
I'm not sure which version you are running, but if you have broadband you can download the installation cd from mondo's website, burn it to disc and just run the install script. It should detect your OS and install whatever you are missing.
I'd stop by my site, and pick up the necessary files. In addition to mondo and mindi, you need to pick up the newt from my site. It doesn't segfault. You will need slang, syslinux installed. Those you can get from the distro.
Keep in mind that mondo is not a *quick* process. I'm still running that backup I start several hours ago. My laptop is a P4M 2.4Ghz with 512MB Dell Inspiron 8500. Not exactly a slow computer. It does run a bit quicker on my AMD 2500+ desktop though :-)
Run over to packman and download lzop. install it, and use it instead of bzip2. Much faster. I can backup my system to about 6 1/2 CD's in about 45 minutes or so. As I haven't run mondoarchive from the gui, I'm not sure if you can call it there. But you can from the command line. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:13pm up 2 days 7:01, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.07
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 | | | Run over to packman and download lzop. install it, and use it instead of | bzip2. Much faster. I can backup my system to about 6 1/2 CD's in about | 45 minutes or so. As I haven't run mondoarchive from the gui, I'm not | sure if you can call it there. But you can from the command line. | | Mike | Thanks for the info. It took about 4 hours or so to create two DVD-sized images: one about 4.3GB the second was about 1.8GB. This included verifying each image.How do you call lzop when running mondoarchive. I usually use the gui cause I'm lazy... One other thing, I got an error stating that the boot+data floppies weren't created but when I looked in the mindi dir they were there, including the two 25Mb iso images. Any thoughts? - --Sayf - -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7Bx1h6qZaDhhuVMRAhRZAJ0XrCQKAqpDR7c3Paby4q3vM6bgLACfXZtL 8LAfs+Cji+SXfRctT+5C2pE= =q5ZA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 17:53, Blue Moose IT Support wrote:
Thanks for the info. It took about 4 hours or so to create two DVD-sized images: one about 4.3GB the second was about 1.8GB. This included verifying each image.How do you call lzop when running mondoarchive. I usually use the gui cause I'm lazy...
I just looked, and couldn't find a way to do it from the gui. Doesn't mean it isn't there, just couldn't find it. I'll ask Hugo and let you know. If you are running from the command line it is something like #mondoarchive -Or -d /dev/dvdrecorder -F -L -s 4200 It's the -L that does it. it's not as pretty this way, but it sure works. I'm an old CLI sort of guy for a lot of things like this..
One other thing, I got an error stating that the boot+data floppies weren't created but when I looked in the mindi dir they were there, including the two 25Mb iso images. Any thoughts?
Not to worry. The reason it can't create them is that the kernel is too big to fit on one floppy nowadays. It will create the 2.88 size disk though.. It prints the warning just in case. I've got it too. I also don't create the floppies so that also creates a message for me. That mindi iso is quite nice for a quick fix type CD. I usually burn it onto one of those mini-cd's and keep it around. That way I know I'm booting with a known good kernel. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 7:41pm up 2 days 10:29, 4 users, load average: 1.12, 1.11, 1.13
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:17 am, Blue Moose IT Support wrote:
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| I think someone already mentioned this, but have you looked at | mondo rescue? .........<snip>..................... As I said I just installed it onto my 9.1 laptop. I had to install several additional applications besides mindi and mondo. I would recommend going here first:
http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike/
I experienced a seg fault after installing the rpm's from mondo's site. This Mike person has rpm's that will run on the 2.6 kernel.
I'm not sure which version you are running, but if you have broadband you can download the installation cd from mondo's website, burn it to disc and just run the install script. It should detect your OS and install whatever you are missing.
...................< more snip>.............. Yep, Mike is the guy that rolled Mondo/Mindi for SuSE and works with the author "hugo". Mike used to lurk on this list and contribute once in awhile. You there Mike??? I also believe it is possible to download with apt. Richard??? I ran it on 7.3 & 8.0 Gave it up when I went to 8.2 (2.4 kernel) which I am still running. Will it work for 8.2 now? Bob S. Bob S.
On Thursday 08 July 2004 06:08, Bob S. wrote:
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Yep, Mike is the guy that rolled Mondo/Mindi for SuSE and works with the author "hugo". Mike used to lurk on this list and contribute once in awhile. You there Mike??? I also believe it is possible to download with apt. Richard??? Yep, I'm still here.. I don't know if you can use apt. Mine isn't set up for it. Although I guess it wouldn't be too hard.
I ran it on 7.3 & 8.0 Gave it up when I went to 8.2 (2.4 kernel) which I am still running. Will it work for 8.2 now?
Oh, yes.. Although I don't have an 8.2 system right now. (gave the disks to a friend) I do have the older rpms available on the website that worked. I only had 8.2 installed for a short time. Got it late, installed it, then 9.0 came out. Couldn't resist.. Now, because I can't roll the rpms on my system for 8.2, if you would like to download the .tgz, I can furnish a .spec file that will work with the latest release. If not, I'm sure the later ones on the site listed under 8.2 still work. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:46pm up 3 days 7:34, 4 users, load average: 1.09, 1.14, 1.14
Thanks. I'll take a look. By the way, I'm still on 8.1. Not sure if that will make a difference. Greg W -----Original Message----- From: Blue Moose IT Support [mailto:support@bluemooseit.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 5:17 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greg Wallace wrote: | It looks like this is the Norton Ghost equivalent for Linux. I like it. I | just went to the web address you show. Do I need any other software on my | machine other than just Mondo (what is Debian, Mindi, Mendi-Kernel, | BusyBox?)? | | Thanks, | Greg W | | -----Original Message----- | From: Blue Moose IT Support [mailto:support@bluemooseit.com] | Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 2:10 AM | To: suse-linux-e@suse.com | Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups | | Greg Wallace wrote: | |>Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for |>Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full | | partition. | |>When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are |>right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened |>in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux. |> |>Thanks, |>Greg W |> |>-----Original Message----- |>From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] |>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM |>Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com |>Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups |> |>Greg Wallace wrote: |> |> |>>How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool? |>> |>>Thanks, |>>Greg Wallace |>> |> |> From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a |>file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. |>If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. |>Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) |>and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser) |> | | | I think someone already mentioned this, but have you looked at mondo | rescue? I find it quite good for doing images. It allows you to backup | to multiple media types. | | http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/ | | Just installed it onto my 9.1 pro system and doing a backup as I type! :-) | | --Sayf | As I said I just installed it onto my 9.1 laptop. I had to install several additional applications besides mindi and mondo. I would recommend going here first: http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike/ I experienced a seg fault after installing the rpm's from mondo's site. This Mike person has rpm's that will run on the 2.6 kernel. I'm not sure which version you are running, but if you have broadband you can download the installation cd from mondo's website, burn it to disc and just run the install script. It should detect your OS and install whatever you are missing. Keep in mind that mondo is not a *quick* process. I'm still running that backup I start several hours ago. My laptop is a P4M 2.4Ghz with 512MB Dell Inspiron 8500. Not exactly a slow computer. It does run a bit quicker on my AMD 2500+ desktop though :-) Let me know if you need any help with it. - --Sayf - -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA6/fhh6qZaDhhuVMRAhRyAKCPaIEVR24mUg7X60Ptj3AOjF+1cQCcCgrv D1QVnGmGNl+ZtvnOHZ2WbiY= =rqXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Greg Wallace wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
-----Original Message----- From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups
Greg Wallace wrote:
How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool?
Thanks, Greg Wallace
From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser)
I think someone already mentioned this, but have you looked at mondo rescue? I find it quite good for doing images. It allows you to backup to multiple media types.
http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/
Just installed it onto my 9.1 pro system and doing a backup as I type! :-)
--Sayf
-- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth another look, though. -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing,
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 05:09, Blue Moose IT Support wrote: the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 | I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two | distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth | another look, though. Well, this is the first time I've tried it on Suse. So I'll let you know if I have any problems. :-) Never had a problem with RedHat 9. - --Sayf - -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA6/l5h6qZaDhhuVMRAjtGAKDRA/wiZP63zB+jdJDbUR/7JtbgQgCg2DBY 5177KIKFXYZX057IPjpSiD8= =Ug6i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 15:18, C Hamel wrote:
I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth another look, though.
You should.. ;-) I just recovered my 9.1, after trying the latest updates. Hosed the system for some reason, and I really didn't feel like tracking it down. Popped in the first CD, booted, and nuked the system. Took about 45 minutes or so. All is well.. Mike P.S. I'm a bit prejudiced. I've been using it since 7.3, and compile rpms that I know will work.. -- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:09pm up 2 days 6:57, 4 users, load average: 1.07, 1.08, 1.09
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 15:18, C Hamel wrote:
I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth another look, though.
You should.. ;-) I just recovered my 9.1, after trying the latest updates. Hosed the system for some reason, and I really didn't feel like tracking it down. Popped in the first CD, booted, and nuked the system. Took about 45 minutes or so. All is well..
Mike P.S. I'm a bit prejudiced. I've been using it since 7.3, and compile rpms that I know will work..
-- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:09pm up 2 days 6:57, 4 users, load average: 1.07, 1.08, 1.09 Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...? -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing,
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:11, Mike wrote: the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16:20, C Hamel wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:11, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 15:18, C Hamel wrote:
I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth another look, though.
You should.. ;-) I just recovered my 9.1, after trying the latest updates. Hosed the system for some reason, and I really didn't feel like tracking it down. Popped in the first CD, booted, and nuked the system. Took about 45 minutes or so. All is well..
Mike P.S. I'm a bit prejudiced. I've been using it since 7.3, and compile rpms that I know will work..
-- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:09pm up 2 days 6:57, 4 users, load average: 1.07, 1.08, 1.09
Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
That's an easy one.. ln -s /sbin/mkdosfs /sbin/mkfs.vfat Now before everyone jumps on me and says it isn't needed, I know that. But until the change in made in mindi, and or mondo, it's an easy fix. Doesn't hurt anything, and keeps the program happy. I didn't write it, I just know how to fix this particular problem.. Mike
...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
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On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:53, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16:20, C Hamel wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:11, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 15:18, C Hamel wrote:
I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth another look, though.
You should.. ;-) I just recovered my 9.1, after trying the latest updates. Hosed the system for some reason, and I really didn't feel like tracking it down. Popped in the first CD, booted, and nuked the system. Took about 45 minutes or so. All is well..
Mike P.S. I'm a bit prejudiced. I've been using it since 7.3, and compile rpms that I know will work..
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Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
That's an easy one..
ln -s /sbin/mkdosfs /sbin/mkfs.vfat
Now before everyone jumps on me and says it isn't needed, I know that. But until the change in made in mindi, and or mondo, it's an easy fix. Doesn't hurt anything, and keeps the program happy. I didn't write it, I just know how to fix this particular problem..
Mike <SNIP FOOTER>
Kool! Thanks, much, Mike! I'll definitely give it a go & see how it works on 9 Pro. -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
Obviously (and naturally), lots of people are interested in getting a good backup! Greg -----Original Message----- From: C Hamel [mailto:vgm2@sc2000.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 7:03 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:53, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16:20, C Hamel wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:11, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 15:18, C Hamel wrote:
I t tried mondo w/8.2, and it was dicey, at best. In those days I had two distros --SuSE 8.2 & Mdk9; it worked fine on Mdk9. Perhaps it is worth another look, though.
You should.. ;-) I just recovered my 9.1, after trying the latest updates. Hosed the system for some reason, and I really didn't feel like tracking it down. Popped in the first CD, booted, and nuked the system. Took about 45 minutes or so. All is well..
Mike P.S. I'm a bit prejudiced. I've been using it since 7.3, and compile rpms that I know will work..
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Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
That's an easy one..
ln -s /sbin/mkdosfs /sbin/mkfs.vfat
Now before everyone jumps on me and says it isn't needed, I know that. But until the change in made in mindi, and or mondo, it's an easy fix. Doesn't hurt anything, and keeps the program happy. I didn't write it, I just know how to fix this particular problem..
Mike <SNIP FOOTER>
Kool! Thanks, much, Mike! I'll definitely give it a go & see how it works on 9 Pro. -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16.20, C Hamel wrote:
Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
It's available. The package is called dosfstools
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16.20, C Hamel wrote:
Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
It's available. The package is called dosfstools Acknowledged. Thanks! -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing,
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 09:58, Anders Johansson wrote: the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16:58, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16.20, C Hamel wrote:
Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
It's available. The package is called dosfstools
It wasn't in 8.2, or 9.0. I just checked, and it's back in 9.1.. -- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 5:31pm up 2 days 8:19, 4 users, load average: 1.20, 1.19, 1.13
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 17.32, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16:58, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 16.20, C Hamel wrote:
Fact is, I just did. Had problems... system wanted mkfs.vfat ...and it seems not to be available anywhere (i.e., apt & CDs). Perhaps I should check your ftp, though...?
It's available. The package is called dosfstools
It wasn't in 8.2, or 9.0. I just checked, and it's back in 9.1..
9.1 is my only frame of reference at the moment. And I saw your signature, so I thought that was what the environment was
How about cpio if you want an alternative to tar. Actually ghost has two image options, one is an archive (like tar or cpio) the other is byte image. Under linux use dd to archive a byte copy. Finally, some Linux filesystems have dump/restore command, for example ext2/3 has dump and XFS has xfsdump. Regards -- Simon Oliver
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:45:46 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
Sorry, linux software generally works. Ghost was finally laid to rest and Symantec has bought Drive Image (and everything else) from Powerquest. Unfortunately, Drive Image 7.0 doesn't work much better than Ghost did. Bare metal restore is a myth - get used to it. Learn to use dar, tar, or one of the dozens of linux backup utilities. Mike- (A completely dissatisfied owner of 3 versions of Ghost and 4 versions of Drive Image) -- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments,
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 08:56 am, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:45:46 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
Sorry, linux software generally works. Ghost was finally laid to rest and Symantec has bought Drive Image (and everything else) from Powerquest. Unfortunately, Drive Image 7.0 doesn't work much better than Ghost did.
Bare metal restore is a myth - get used to it. Learn to use dar, tar, or one of the dozens of linux backup utilities.
There are image utilities from Acronis. www.acronis.com -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 07/07/04 10:01 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Anagram: Desperation = A Rope Ends It
I've been very successfull with the Accronis True Image... The only problem I've had has to do with, XP Pro... And not at all relevant here... It'll let you back up to Disk,CD's, DVD's, Network, but also to Firewire/USB devices... Jerry On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 16:01, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 08:56 am, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:45:46 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
Sorry, linux software generally works. Ghost was finally laid to rest and Symantec has bought Drive Image (and everything else) from Powerquest. Unfortunately, Drive Image 7.0 doesn't work much better than Ghost did.
Bare metal restore is a myth - get used to it. Learn to use dar, tar, or one of the dozens of linux backup utilities.
There are image utilities from Acronis. www.acronis.com
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Thanks for the input. I'll take a look at this one too. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Jerome R. Westrick [mailto:jerry@westrick.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:57 AM To: SLE Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups I've been very successfull with the Accronis True Image... The only problem I've had has to do with, XP Pro... And not at all relevant here... It'll let you back up to Disk,CD's, DVD's, Network, but also to Firewire/USB devices... Jerry On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 16:01, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 08:56 am, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:45:46 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
Sorry, linux software generally works. Ghost was finally laid to rest and Symantec has bought Drive Image (and everything else) from Powerquest. Unfortunately, Drive Image 7.0 doesn't work much better than Ghost did.
Bare metal restore is a myth - get used to it. Learn to use dar, tar, or one of the dozens of linux backup utilities.
There are image utilities from Acronis. www.acronis.com
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On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 07:01, Bruce Marshall
There are image utilities from Acronis. www.acronis.com
Open source? $hareware or freeware?
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Another new one for the list. Thanks! Greg W -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Marshall [mailto:bmarsh@bmarsh.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:02 AM To: SLE Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups On Wednesday 07 July 2004 08:56 am, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:45:46 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
Sorry, linux software generally works. Ghost was finally laid to rest and Symantec has bought Drive Image (and everything else) from Powerquest. Unfortunately, Drive Image 7.0 doesn't work much better than Ghost did.
Bare metal restore is a myth - get used to it. Learn to use dar, tar, or one of the dozens of linux backup utilities.
There are image utilities from Acronis. www.acronis.com -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 07/07/04 10:01 + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ Anagram: Desperation = A Rope Ends It -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Michael W.Cocke wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:45:46 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
Sorry, linux software generally works. Ghost was finally laid to rest and Symantec has bought Drive Image (and everything else) from Powerquest. Unfortunately, Drive Image 7.0 doesn't work much better than Ghost did.
Bare metal restore is a myth - get used to it. Learn to use dar, tar, or one of the dozens of linux backup utilities.
Mike-
(A completely dissatisfied owner of 3 versions of Ghost and 4 versions of Drive Image)
Actually, I've often done "bare metal" restores. Back in the days when I was running OS/2 on a 129 MB drive, I had a QIC 80 tape drive and a bootable OS/2 floppy, with the necessary drivers to run the backup & restore. Also, on many occasions, I've used Drive Image over a lan, after booting from a DOS floppy, to save & restore entire disk images. What's to stop one from using a bootable floppy or CD, with all the necessary tools from doing the same?
I think I read that a byte-by-byte is possible using RIP or one of the other tools on that CD. You can get the iso at... sunsite.rediris.es/sites2/ibiblio.org/linux/system/recovery On Wednesday 07 July 2004 04:45, Greg Wallace wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Thanks, Greg W
-----Original Message----- From: Donn Washburn [mailto:n5xwb@hal-pc.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:12 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups
Greg Wallace wrote:
How do I do the copy to the 2nd hard drive? What tool?
Thanks, Greg Wallace
From a command line as root. I assume you have it partitioned and a file system on it. Try "cp -Rp" source/* dest/. If done correctly it will copy a source (like a CD) to a hard drive. Both CD and HD must have a large enough destination (it can be bigger) and a file system (type doesn't matter - ext2/3, reiser)
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Is there a reason why dd isn't sufficient? On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 08:22:03AM -0500, C Hamel wrote:
I think I read that a byte-by-byte is possible using RIP or one of the other tools on that CD. You can get the iso at... sunsite.rediris.es/sites2/ibiblio.org/linux/system/recovery
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 04:45, Greg Wallace wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
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If it gives me everything to recover my system to just what I had before, even if I have a trashed new installation of 8.2, then that's fine. I'd want to re-install 8.1 and then use whatever I'm going to use to get me completely back. Thanks, Greg W -----Original Message----- From: Faber Fedor [mailto:faber@linuxnj.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:09 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Backups Is there a reason why dd isn't sufficient? On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 08:22:03AM -0500, C Hamel wrote:
I think I read that a byte-by-byte is possible using RIP or one of the other tools on that CD. You can get the iso at... sunsite.rediris.es/sites2/ibiblio.org/linux/system/recovery
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 04:45, Greg Wallace wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
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On Wednesday 07 July 2004 11:45, Greg Wallace wrote:
Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux.
Mondo will do it.. Might take more than one CD, but it works. I've got rpms available. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.1 Kernel 2.6.4 KDE 3.2.1 Kmail 1.6.2 For SuSE Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:06pm up 2 days 6:54, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.07, 1.10
Greg, et al -- ...and then Greg Wallace said... % % Thanks, but I thinking of something along the lines of Norton Ghost for % Windows. It makes a complete byte by byte image copy of the full partition. % When you restore, you get that copied back over what you have. So you are % right back to where you started from, regardless of anything that happened % in between. I just need to find a tool like that for SuSe Linux. Oh! If that's all you want, then use dd. I use sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 bs=64m | gzip -9 | ssh server "cat > /path/to/file.gz" to snap a backup of my workstation. Restoration is as easy; boot with your Knoppix CD and run ssh server cat /path/to/file.gz | gunzip | dd bs=64m of=/dev/hda2 to spit every byte back into the same place. Adjust the block size for your environment. % % Thanks, % Greg W HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G davidtg@justpickone.org http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16.41, David T-G wrote:
sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 bs=64m | gzip -9 | ssh server "cat > /path/to/file.gz"
Before you do this, isn't it a good idea to overwrite the free space on the partition with zeros, to give gzip a better chance to give good compression? With old rubbish laying around, the zip will probably be bigger than it has to be I think Norton Ghost is smart about which disk space is allocated and which isn't, which is why it only works on some file systems
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16:45, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16.41, David T-G wrote:
sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 bs=64m | gzip -9 | ssh server "cat > /path/to/file.gz"
Before you do this, isn't it a good idea to overwrite the free space on the partition with zeros,
Sounds interesting. How can that be accomplished?
to give gzip a better chance to give good compression? With old rubbish laying around, the zip will probably be bigger than it has to be
Cheers, Leen
On Thursday 08 July 2004 17.13, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16:45, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16.41, David T-G wrote:
sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 bs=64m | gzip -9 | ssh server "cat > /path/to/file.gz"
Before you do this, isn't it a good idea to overwrite the free space on the partition with zeros,
Sounds interesting. How can that be accomplished?
The simplest way would be to create a file and keep writing zeros to it until you run out of disk space, and then delete the file. I'm sure there are even cleverer ways though
Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16:45, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16.41, David T-G wrote:
sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 bs=64m | gzip -9 | ssh server "cat > /path/to/file.gz"
Before you do this, isn't it a good idea to overwrite the free space on the partition with zeros,
Sounds interesting. How can that be accomplished?
I believe some of those security programs, which overwrite free space can do that.
Anders, et al -- ...and then Anders Johansson said... % % On Thursday 08 July 2004 16.41, David T-G wrote: % > sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 bs=64m | gzip -9 | ssh server "cat > % > /path/to/file.gz" % % Before you do this, isn't it a good idea to overwrite the free space on the % partition with zeros, to give gzip a better chance to give good compression? Hmmm... Not out of the question, but I never bothered. When I was backing up a full slice (which I usually have; after all, who has empty disk space lying around? :-) it didn't much matter, and when I had free space I could generally write the zip file in about 2/3 the space of the occupied data regardless of how much space was free (IIRC). I figure 30% compression plus a bunch of empty space or even higher compression of real bits plus junk bits is good enough. % With old rubbish laying around, the zip will probably be bigger than it has % to be Perhaps, but I always saw enough compression that I was happy :-) And had I thought of it I probably wouldn't have bothered anyway just because of the time it would take to write all of those zeros to a stupid IDE disk (*sigh* I miss SCSI). HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G davidtg@justpickone.org http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
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