Hi, On Sun, Apr 30 2000 at 15:55 -0500, Nevzat Akdemir wrote:

Every now and then I see a process is going zombie. chmod <defunct> And lately I started seeing this more frequently. Anyone else has this also?

Are you using the SuSE-supplied Netscape? There's a small bug in /usr/X11R6/bin/Netscape. Edit it, look for chmod -f -R go-rxw $HN & and change it to chmod -f -R go-rxw $HN Ciao, Stefan -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Hi Jim The first thingg I would do is turn off caching in your browser, it may in fact be loading from the cache then going off to the net and failing. Turning off your browser cache will make this much easier to diagnose. hth Chris On Tue, 02 May 2000 09:39:27 -0500, Jim Sabatke wrote:

I use two ISPs. One is through my employer, the other is a local, but large, ISP.

Problem:

I cannot reach a lot of URLs from the local ISP. The usual behaviour is that the page starts loading and never finishes. At first I thought the problem might be kppp. I use kppp for my local ISP and a chatscript for my work ISP (work uses MS-CHAP and kppp doesn't do that). I tried my local ISP with a chatscript and the behaviour is the same. That eliminates kppp as the problem.

The local ISP says that lots of Linux (all vendors) users have the same problem.

Question:

How do I begin to debug this problem?

Thanks,

-- Jim Sabatke SuSE 6.3 Linux Kernel - 2.2.13

Never fight with a pig. You both get covered with mud, and the pig likes it.

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Jim Are you behind a firewall/MASQ setup? it may be timing out. Chris On Tue, 02 May 2000 10:09:13 -0500, Jim Sabatke wrote:

Chris,

I've got caching off. I also run into the same problem with Opera, Lynx and kfm. All behave the same.

Thanks,

Jim

"CN Davies" wrote:

...

Hi Jim

The first thingg I would do is turn off caching in your browser, it may in fact be loading from the cache then going off to the net and failing. Turning off your browser cache will make this much easier to diagnose.

hth

Chris

On Tue, 02 May 2000 09:39:27 -0500, Jim Sabatke wrote:

...

I use two ISPs. One is through my employer, the other is a local, but large, ISP.

Problem:

I cannot reach a lot of URLs from the local ISP. The usual behaviour is that the page starts loading and never finishes. At first I thought the problem might be kppp. I use kppp for my local ISP and a chatscript for my work ISP (work uses MS-CHAP and kppp doesn't do that). I tried my local ISP with a chatscript and the behaviour is the same. That eliminates kppp as the problem.

The local ISP says that lots of Linux (all vendors) users have the same problem.

Question:

How do I begin to debug this problem?

Thanks,

-- Jim Sabatke SuSE 6.3 Linux Kernel - 2.2.13

Never fight with a pig. You both get covered with mud, and the pig likes it.

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

-- Jim Sabatke SuSE 6.3 Linux Kernel - 2.2.13

Never fight with a pig. You both get covered with mud, and the pig likes it.

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Jim Sabatke wrote:

Chris,

I don't have any firewall/MASQ setup on my box. The ISP claims to be a "direct access" to the internet, but I can't imagine that they wouldn't have a firewall.

direkt connection -in this context- means you're not forced to use your ISP's proxy. I viewed something similar at work with WinNT and IE5.0. If it's related to your ISP's proxy (as we guessed in my case) turn it off. (I can't). But This would also effect other OS's. clueless... Juergen

I do have DNS running, but I have tried it without DNS. The behaviour is exactly the same. I'm using DNS because I've got a lan in my house, plus I need more nameservers than are allowed with inetd.

Thanks,

-- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

I have disabled nscd now, it has helped with resolving some URLs. I have a couple of different things going on: 1. I try to ping www.netscape.com, one of the problem URLs. I get a number (5-10) of different IPs. Only one of the IPs returns packets, the rest just hang. Getting the "good" IP seems to occur randomly (no discernable pattern). 2. This problem only occurs when using my off-work ISP. My work ISP works fine. The work ISP worked with nscd running. 3. My browsers (all of them) sometimes get the correct IP. The problem ones all seem to redirect to another IP which times out. Thanks, Jim David Porter wrote:

* Jim Sabatke :

...

I cannot reach a lot of URLs from the local ISP.

This may not be helpful, but you could disable nscd. That is what I did when I could not reach certain pages which I could from other computers. It worked for me, but when you say,

...

The usual behaviour is that the page starts loading and never finishes.

I am not sure what you mean. Does the address resolve, and the page start loading but display no content? For me, the host could not be resolved, so I didn't even get that far.

+David

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

-- Jim Sabatke SuSE 6.3 Linux Kernel - 2.2.13 Never fight with a pig. You both get covered with mud, and the pig likes it. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

OK, I'll buy that. Do you have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot the problem? Thanks, Bill Moseley wrote:

At 07:10 AM 05/03/00 -0500, Jim Sabatke wrote:

...

I have disabled nscd now, it has helped with resolving some URLs. I have a couple of different things going on:

1. I try to ping www.netscape.com, one of the problem URLs. I get a number (5-10) of different IPs. Only one of the IPs returns packets, the rest just hang. Getting the "good" IP seems to occur randomly (no discernable pattern).

That really doesn't tell you anything. They may be blocking ping, or some of the IPs might be to busy to answer your pings.

Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

-- Jim Sabatke SuSE 6.3 Linux Kernel - 2.2.13 Never fight with a pig. You both get covered with mud, and the pig likes it. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/