Re: [opensuse] Re: VMware & 11.0 problem
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:04 +0200, James Hatridge wrote:
What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.
As said in a previous mail, you'll need to install the package kernel-source Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi all! On Thursday 09 October 2008 14:16:09 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:04 +0200, James Hatridge wrote:
What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.
As said in a previous mail, you'll need to install the package kernel-source
Dominique
This is starting to piss me off. I've got the source and headers installed BUT when I try here is what I get: vmware-config.pl Making sure services for VMware Server are stopped. Stopping VMware autostart virtual machines: Virtual machines failed Stopping VMware management services: VMware Virtual Infrastructure Web Access VMware Server Host Agent failed Stopping VMware services: VMware Authentication Daemon done Virtual machine monitor done None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your running kernel. Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes] Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override. Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.3.1", while you are trying to use "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.3". This configuration is not recommended and VMware Server may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with compiler "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.3" anyway? [no] yes What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/include/linux The header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the running kernel. If you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src directory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. Are you sure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running kernel? [no] What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/include/linux/ The header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the running kernel. If you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src directory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. Are you sure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running kernel? [no] yes The path "/usr/include/linux" is an existing directory, but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/include/linux/ The header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the running kernel. If you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src directory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. Are you sure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running kernel? [no] yes The path "/usr/include/linux" is an existing directory, but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/include/ The header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the running kernel. If you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src directory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. Are you sure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running kernel? [no] yes The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.25) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.25.5-1.1-pae). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] ######################### What do you all think? Thanks JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Hatridge" <James.Hatridge@gmx.de> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: [opensuse] Re: VMware & 11.0 problem
Hi all! On Thursday 09 October 2008 14:16:09 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:04 +0200, James Hatridge wrote:
What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.
As said in a previous mail, you'll need to install the package kernel-source
Dominique
This is starting to piss me off.
Do yourself a favor and stop trying to use linux or any other unix. It's not for you. This is not a fatuous or facetious comment but a plain sincere one. -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HI all First of all thanks to everyone that helped me. After I got all the versions together it worked fine. From what I see 11.0 does on-line updates without telling me or at least I did not notice it when the update happened. On Friday 10 October 2008 12:33:20 Brian K. White wrote:
This is starting to piss me off.
Do yourself a favor and stop trying to use linux or any other unix. It's not for you. This is not a fatuous or facetious comment but a plain sincere one.
Brian, piss off. I've been using Linux since '98 (since SuSE 4.4.1) and worked with computers since '75. I don't know it all, but I really hate it when I can't figure out the problem. That makes me mad. JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
First of all thanks to everyone that helped me. After I got all the versions together it worked fine. From what I see 11.0 does on-line updates without telling me or at least I did not notice it when the update happened.
Hmmmm... should not do that... at least not by default on any install I've done.. It does make updating really easy though, so easy to miss the details of what is being updated if you just click through on the updater when it notifies you of an update. Good to hear you got your VMWare installed. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Hatridge" <James.Hatridge@gmx.de> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [opensuse] Re: VMware & 11.0 problem
HI all
First of all thanks to everyone that helped me. After I got all the versions together it worked fine. From what I see 11.0 does on-line updates without telling me or at least I did not notice it when the update happened.
On Friday 10 October 2008 12:33:20 Brian K. White wrote:
This is starting to piss me off.
Do yourself a favor and stop trying to use linux or any other unix. It's not for you. This is not a fatuous or facetious comment but a plain sincere one.
Brian, piss off. I've been using Linux since '98 (since SuSE 4.4.1) and worked with computers since '75. I don't know it all, but I really hate it when I can't figure out the problem. That makes me mad.
Well, my point wasn't about skill or experience level. Everyone starts off without any. But if you're going to try to suggest such great experience... Do you really mean to imply you are proud that in all that time you never learned any of the dozen possible ways to determine what kernel is currently running, or learned how to figure something trivial like that on the spot? This just makes my suggestion a thousand times more apt than if you had been a new user. -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 13 October 2008 05:07:04 Brian K. White wrote:
Do you really mean to imply you are proud that in all that time you never learned any of the dozen possible ways to determine what kernel is currently running, or learned how to figure something trivial like that on the spot? This just makes my suggestion a thousand times more apt than if you had been a new user.
I guess you know all the 1000's of commands etc. What an ass. -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello Folks! Here are the results of a VMware Workstation 6.5 install under 10.3: 1. I removed the 6.0.2 RPM using yast, but ensured that my settings in /etc/vmware were preserved. 2. The supplied 6.5 RPM package is faulty. It simply copies the bundle to /var/cache/vmware - well, sometimes. (I did several trials for reasons which will become apparent below.) 3. To actually install anything, you need to become root, cd to /var/cache/vmware and sh <the bundle name> with or without switches. Taking the simple default of nothing, it installs without (apparent) mishap. 4. On my system, I need to change the default Bridged network to always use eth1. Win XP comes up - much faster than under 6.0.2, and everything works as expected - net work assignments, internet , the works. Here comes the rub: 1. Unlike 6.0.2, I don't see the virtual vmnetN devices under ifconfig. Is that correct? 2. The installation does not survive a reboot. After rebooting I can start the VMware Workstation, but I can't start the XP client. I get a spate of "/dev/vmmon" unavailable error messages. 3. None of the virtual vmnetN devices are loaded during reboot, as happened under 6.0.2, however vmmon and friends show up in modules.dep, so they are around somewhere. Nowhere during the install was I asked to recompile support modules like 6.0.2, nor is it clear how you can force such recompilation, or even whether it in necessary. uname -all output: Linux danny 2.6.22.18-0.2-bigsmp #1 SMP 2008-06-09 13:53:20 +0200 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux There is evidently something very basic wrong with all this. BTW, I have also posted a similar query to the relevant VMware discussion group, since it is not clear whether this is issue belongs to openSUSE or VMware. Regards, Daniel
2. The supplied 6.5 RPM package is faulty. It simply copies the bundle to /var/cache/vmware - well, sometimes. (I did several trials for reasons which will become apparent below.)
How did you install it? If I click on it in a file manager, and install using YAST, it installs to /var/cache/vmware and stops there. If I install from the CLI using rpm -ivh <filename> it installs as expected, and triggers the configuration script correctly. I would say this sounds more like a YAST issue than a faulty package.. but I haven't had time to dig into this further. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Once again, hello Folks! Here is the workaround: Become root: 1. cd /lib/modules/<kernel name>/misc 2. for each module in directory, modprobe <module> 3. BINGO! Everything works. Again, I suspect a VMware QA failure. Heaven help a newbie trying to set up 6.5 under open SUSE. Over the next few days, I'll try and summarize this into a tidy usable solution. Thanks all, Daniel Daniel Feiglin wrote:
Hello Folks!
Here are the results of a VMware Workstation 6.5 install under 10.3:
1. I removed the 6.0.2 RPM using yast, but ensured that my settings in /etc/vmware were preserved. 2. The supplied 6.5 RPM package is faulty. It simply copies the bundle to /var/cache/vmware - well, sometimes. (I did several trials for reasons which will become apparent below.) 3. To actually install anything, you need to become root, cd to /var/cache/vmware and sh <the bundle name> with or without switches. Taking the simple default of nothing, it installs without (apparent) mishap. 4. On my system, I need to change the default Bridged network to always use eth1. Win XP comes up - much faster than under 6.0.2, and everything works as expected - net work assignments, internet , the works.
Here comes the rub:
1. Unlike 6.0.2, I don't see the virtual vmnetN devices under ifconfig. Is that correct? 2. The installation does not survive a reboot. After rebooting I can start the VMware Workstation, but I can't start the XP client. I get a spate of "/dev/vmmon" unavailable error messages. 3. None of the virtual vmnetN devices are loaded during reboot, as happened under 6.0.2, however vmmon and friends show up in modules.dep, so they are around somewhere.
Nowhere during the install was I asked to recompile support modules like 6.0.2, nor is it clear how you can force such recompilation, or even whether it in necessary.
uname -all output: Linux danny 2.6.22.18-0.2-bigsmp #1 SMP 2008-06-09 13:53:20 +0200 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
There is evidently something very basic wrong with all this.
BTW, I have also posted a similar query to the relevant VMware discussion group, since it is not clear whether this is issue belongs to openSUSE or VMware.
Regards,
Daniel
Become root:
1. cd /lib/modules/<kernel name>/misc
2. for each module in directory, modprobe <module>
3. BINGO!
Everything works. Again, I suspect a VMware QA failure. Heaven help a newbie trying to set up 6.5 under open SUSE. Over the next few days, I'll try and summarize this into a tidy usable solution.
There is something else wrong then. Installing VMWare Workstation 6.5 in openSUSE 11.0 is easy and fast under normal circumstances. There should be zero need to go through all the hoops and workarounds that you went through. No individual modprobes.. nothing... I've installed Workstation several times on 11.0 and it's been the same every time... (assuming kernel sources and GCC are already installed) rpm -ivh <filename>... run through the config script making sure to answer yes to the GCC mismatch question and that's it... nothing more. Others on the list here have reported that using the bundle version is even easier than installing from the RPM. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Actually there was a further minor problem - no vmnet0. The solution was to get into VM|Removable Devices|Network adapter|Connect. I agree, there is something fundamentally wrong here. My system is as "vanilla" as you can get - no fancy hardware or software. In fact, its main use at the moment is for technical writing using FrameMaker 8 under XP. It never had a glitch under VM 6.0.x, except that it was slow. At least under 6.5 (after you get it up) there is a noticeable XP client performance improvement. Unless someone can figure out the system angle to this, the problem is "solved" and we can close the thread. Again, thanks all, Daniel Clayton wrote:
Become root:
1. cd /lib/modules/<kernel name>/misc
2. for each module in directory, modprobe <module>
3. BINGO!
Everything works. Again, I suspect a VMware QA failure. Heaven help a newbie trying to set up 6.5 under open SUSE. Over the next few days, I'll try and summarize this into a tidy usable solution.
There is something else wrong then. Installing VMWare Workstation 6.5 in openSUSE 11.0 is easy and fast under normal circumstances. There should be zero need to go through all the hoops and workarounds that you went through. No individual modprobes.. nothing...
I've installed Workstation several times on 11.0 and it's been the same every time... (assuming kernel sources and GCC are already installed) rpm -ivh <filename>... run through the config script making sure to answer yes to the GCC mismatch question and that's it... nothing more.
Others on the list here have reported that using the bundle version is even easier than installing from the RPM.
C.
I was too quick ... Win XP comes up, but there is no vmnet0. Ouch! Gotta go - something for tomorrow or next day. D Daniel Feiglin wrote:
Once again, hello Folks!
Here is the workaround:
Become root:
1. cd /lib/modules/<kernel name>/misc
2. for each module in directory, modprobe <module>
3. BINGO!
Everything works. Again, I suspect a VMware QA failure. Heaven help a newbie trying to set up 6.5 under open SUSE. Over the next few days, I'll try and summarize this into a tidy usable solution.
Thanks all,
Daniel
Daniel Feiglin wrote:
Hello Folks!
Here are the results of a VMware Workstation 6.5 install under 10.3:
1. I removed the 6.0.2 RPM using yast, but ensured that my settings in /etc/vmware were preserved. 2. The supplied 6.5 RPM package is faulty. It simply copies the bundle to /var/cache/vmware - well, sometimes. (I did several trials for reasons which will become apparent below.) 3. To actually install anything, you need to become root, cd to /var/cache/vmware and sh <the bundle name> with or without switches. Taking the simple default of nothing, it installs without (apparent) mishap. 4. On my system, I need to change the default Bridged network to always use eth1. Win XP comes up - much faster than under 6.0.2, and everything works as expected - net work assignments, internet , the works.
Here comes the rub:
1. Unlike 6.0.2, I don't see the virtual vmnetN devices under ifconfig. Is that correct? 2. The installation does not survive a reboot. After rebooting I can start the VMware Workstation, but I can't start the XP client. I get a spate of "/dev/vmmon" unavailable error messages. 3. None of the virtual vmnetN devices are loaded during reboot, as happened under 6.0.2, however vmmon and friends show up in modules.dep, so they are around somewhere.
Nowhere during the install was I asked to recompile support modules like 6.0.2, nor is it clear how you can force such recompilation, or even whether it in necessary.
uname -all output: Linux danny 2.6.22.18-0.2-bigsmp #1 SMP 2008-06-09 13:53:20 +0200 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
There is evidently something very basic wrong with all this.
BTW, I have also posted a similar query to the relevant VMware discussion group, since it is not clear whether this is issue belongs to openSUSE or VMware.
Regards,
Daniel
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2008-10-13 at 12:49 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
Here comes the rub:
1. Unlike 6.0.2, I don't see the virtual vmnetN devices under ifconfig. Is that correct? 2. The installation does not survive a reboot. After rebooting I can start the VMware Workstation, but I can't start the XP client. I get a spate of "/dev/vmmon" unavailable error messages. 3. None of the virtual vmnetN devices are loaded during reboot, as happened under 6.0.2, however vmmon and friends show up in modules.dep, so they are around somewhere.
I don't use workstation, but server. What you have to do there is run the service "rcvmware start", or configure it to load during boot (chkconfig vmware on). This script loads kernel modules and start the network things. The rpm version installs perfect, but you need to run "vmware-config.pl" as root to compile the kernel module if needed.
BTW, I have also posted a similar query to the relevant VMware discussion group, since it is not clear whether this is issue belongs to openSUSE or VMware.
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