[SLE] 10.1 YaST Mirror question
In previous releases of SuSE, when you ran online update, you were presented with a screen where you could pick the mirror you wanted to go to. Now, it appears that that functionality has been replaced with the separate YaST Installation Source menu item. If you add additional mirrors, you still aren't presented any option when you actually run YOU, so, I assume it just goes with the first source in the list (I notice you can change the order of those via "Up" and "Down" buttons. What I'm wondering is, if the topmost mirror is down at the time you run YOU, will YOU automatically try the next one in your list? Otherwise, I guess you have to manually go into Installation Source and move them around until you get one that works. The old way, you just select a different mirror from within YOU and off you'd go. Just wondering if anyone knows how this is supposed to function. Greg Wallace -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Saturday 10 June 2006 21:35, Greg Wallace wrote:
In previous releases of SuSE, when you ran online update, you were presented with a screen where you could pick the mirror you wanted to go to. Now, it appears that that functionality has been replaced with the separate YaST Installation Source menu item. If you add additional mirrors, you still aren't presented any option when you actually run YOU, so, I assume it just goes with the first source in the list (I notice you can change the order of those via "Up" and "Down" buttons. What I'm wondering is, if the topmost mirror is down at the time you run YOU, will YOU automatically try the next one in your list? Otherwise, I guess you have to manually go into Installation Source and move them around until you get one that works. The old way, you just select a different mirror from within YOU and off you'd go. Just wondering if anyone knows how this is supposed to function.
Perhaps you could simulate a host that is down? Try this as a installation source: http://localhost/pub/. Put it at the top. Issue a 'rcapache2 stop' so apache is not running. Now your host is down (at least the http part ;-) ). Try to install a package, and see what happens. When you're done, issue 'apache2 start' if needed. Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Saturday, June 10, 2006 @ 2:51 PM, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 10 June 2006 21:35, Greg Wallace wrote:
In previous releases of SuSE, when you ran online update, you were presented with a screen where you could pick the mirror you wanted to go to. Now, it appears that that functionality has been replaced with the separate YaST Installation Source menu item. If you add additional mirrors, you still aren't presented any option when you actually run YOU, so, I assume it just goes with the first source in the list (I notice you can change the order of those via "Up" and "Down" buttons. What I'm wondering is, if the topmost mirror is down at the time you run YOU, will YOU automatically try the next one in your list? Otherwise, I guess you have to manually go into Installation Source and move them around until you get one that works. The old way, you just select a different mirror from within YOU and off you'd go. Just wondering if anyone knows how this is supposed to function.
Perhaps you could simulate a host that is down? Try this as a installation source: http://localhost/pub/. Put it at the top. Issue a 'rcapache2 stop' so apache is not running. Now your host is down (at least the http part ;-) ).
Try to install a package, and see what happens. When you're done, issue 'apache2 start' if needed.
Cheers,
Leen
Well, I am not even running apache and all of my update sources were http and have been working, so YOU must not need apache2 to access these http sources. I did add an ftp source, so if there is some other way to disable http, I could now try that test. Also, I tried to add a bogus source so I could promote it to the top of the list just to see if it would get bypassed, but the system (naturally) verifies that the target is valid before allowing you to add it, meaning I couldn't do that. Greg Wallace -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:30, Greg Wallace wrote:
Also, I tried to add a bogus source so I could promote it to the top of the list just to see if it would get bypassed, but the system (naturally) verifies that the target is valid before allowing you to add it, meaning I couldn't do that.
Ah, yes, you're quite right, I forgot about that check. ;) Ok, I have an installation source here locally, and I moved it to the top of the list. Another alternative source contains the same package that I'm going to install. Then I shutdown apache, selected the package, clicked 'Accept' and YaST responded with: Cannot access installation source [..] [..] [Skip] I clicked skip. What then happened, happened so fast that I could not see it. After yast was done I clicked "Install more packages", and searched for the just installed package. The package was installed. Obviously YaST had fetched the package from the alternative source. Does this answer your question? Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Saturday, June 10, 2006 @ 6:40 PM, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:30, Greg Wallace wrote:
Also, I tried to add a bogus source so I could promote it to the top of the list just to see if it would get bypassed, but the system (naturally) verifies that the target is valid before allowing you to add it, meaning I couldn't do that.
Ah, yes, you're quite right, I forgot about that check. ;)
Ok, I have an installation source here locally, and I moved it to the top of the list. Another alternative source contains the same package that I'm going to install. Then I shutdown apache, selected the package, clicked 'Accept' and YaST responded with:
Cannot access installation source
[..] [..] [Skip]
I clicked skip.
What then happened, happened so fast that I could not see it. After yast was done I clicked "Install more packages", and searched for the just installed
package. The package was installed. Obviously YaST had fetched the package from the alternative source.
Does this answer your question?
Cheers,
Leen
Yes, and that's how I would have hoped it would work. This way, it's really not much different from what we had before except that you put the mirrors in the order that you would want them tried in case one or more of them is down and the system automatically goes down the list until it runs out of sources or has success. Sounds like a good methodology. Thanks for confirming that that's the way it works. Greg Wallace -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-06-10 at 21:23 -0500, Greg Wallace wrote:
Yes, and that's how I would have hoped it would work. This way, it's really not much different from what we had before except that you put the mirrors in the order that you would want them tried in case one or more of them is down and the system automatically goes down the list until it runs out of sources or has success. Sounds like a good methodology. Thanks for confirming that that's the way it works.
But I guess that when you start it, yast will ask each mirror for their info or whatever, and you have to wait for the information download for each to complete and then be analyzed, before you can select anything to download. That's one of the reasons it is so slow. By the way, you can select for each independent file from where you want it to be downloaded - I think, it is not clear. I tried that with RC3: I could select to use my local dvd copy or a remote server for each file, they had a slightly diferent version number. I don't remember if the server info could be easily seen or deciphered. Also, from the menu at the top left, there was something to select the server to use for the present run of the yast package manager. But, as I say, this info is from RC3, I haven't installed the final version yet, I don't have time right now. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFEi/nwtTMYHG2NR9URAhWtAJsG4qHGPUrOfGA0xDRj+h7yjgDyYgCdH1gr 8BlHJJXdt8ctfkQhgjPGQK4= =LLkq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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Carlos E. R.
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Greg Wallace
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Leendert Meyer