Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6
Hi Folks, I'm encountering audio issues after in-place upgrades from Leap 15.5 to 15.6. Out of three upgrades so far, I lost sound on a HP laptop and a Dell desktop. An MSI desktop is working okay. I have to admit I haven't had sound issues with openSUSE for decades, or so it seems, and I'm rusty a diagnosing what's going on. I vaguely recall a thread here about pulseaudio issues, could this be related? If I'm seeing this on two out of three upgrades this must be a common problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Lew
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <4e8a2616-3362-4566-a82b-4d2647d2b042@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:27:40 -0700 [LW] == Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written: LW> Hi Folks, LW> I'm encountering audio issues after in-place upgrades from Leap 15.5 to 15.6. LW> Out of three upgrades so far, I lost sound on a HP laptop and a Dell desktop. LW> An MSI desktop is working okay. I have to admit I haven't had sound issues LW> with openSUSE for decades, or so it seems, and I'm rusty a diagnosing what's LW> going on. [...] Please install pavucontrol (or pavucontrol-qt). After that, start pavucontrol (or pavucontrol-qt) and check the status under Input Devices, Output Devices, and Configuration, and try making any necessary corrections. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "In the Americas and Europe, excluding South Korea, smartphone addiction among youth is not as serious as alcoholism or drug addiction and is not of high concern." -- Chosun Online --
On 9/12/24 17:42, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
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Subject : Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID :<4e8a2616-3362-4566-a82b-4d2647d2b042@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:27:40 -0700
[LW] == Lew Wolfgang<wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written:
LW> Hi Folks,
LW> I'm encountering audio issues after in-place upgrades from Leap 15.5 to 15.6. LW> Out of three upgrades so far, I lost sound on a HP laptop and a Dell desktop. LW> An MSI desktop is working okay. I have to admit I haven't had sound issues LW> with openSUSE for decades, or so it seems, and I'm rusty a diagnosing what's LW> going on. [...]
Please install pavucontrol (or pavucontrol-qt).
After that, start pavucontrol (or pavucontrol-qt) and check the status under Input Devices, Output Devices, and Configuration, and try making any necessary corrections.
Best Regards.
Hi Masaru, thanks for the suggestion. But no luck I'm afraid. It, and the KDE speaker control list the output device as a USB Audio Headset. But I don't have a headset plugged in, just the built-in laptop speakers. Yast's Sound module says the audio device is a Canon Lake PCH caVS. No mention of "speakers" anywhere. I'll see if I can find a headset with an RCA plug, maybe the headphone jack in the docking station is turned on? The volume sliders are modulating visually with the sound I'm playing in Firefox, but nothing from the speakers. No, they're not muted. For the record again, nothing was changed here except the in-place upgrade from 15.5 to 15.6. And it worked before. I can't do zoom/teams meetings now! Regards, Lew
On 9/12/24 8:37 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
For the record again, nothing was changed here except the in-place upgrade from 15.5 to 15.6. And it worked before. I can't do zoom/teams meetings now!
Are you sure 15.6 doesn't use pipewire and wireplumber? What does the following show: $ ps axf | grep wire If you see /usr/bin/pipewire, /usr/bin/wireplumber, etc, check wireplumbler with: $ wpctl status to list audio sources/sinks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 9/12/24 19:11, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 9/12/24 8:37 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
For the record again, nothing was changed here except the in-place upgrade from 15.5 to 15.6. And it worked before. I can't do zoom/teams meetings now!
Are you sure 15.6 doesn't use pipewire and wireplumber?
What does the following show:
$ ps axf | grep wire
If you see /usr/bin/pipewire, /usr/bin/wireplumber, etc, check wireplumbler with:
$ wpctl status
to list audio sources/sinks.
Hi David, ps lists both wireplumber and pipewire. wpctl shows four clients, but no audio/video sources/sinks/anything. But here's news: I couldn't find my old wired earbuds, so I connected my Tribit Bluetooth buds to the laptop. They showed up in the devices section of the Audio System Settings screen. I selected them and it works! That suggests that most of the plumbing works, but something in there just doesn't see the built-in speakers. They can't be selected. The default device is a USB headset that doesn't exist. I've also got another older laptop here from work that I recently did a full install of Leap 15.6 and it works fine with its internal speakers. Both laptops are HP. So something is blocking my speakers in there somewhere. It must be something in 15.6 because 15.5 and previous worked fine. Is this time for a bug report? Regards, Lew
On 9/12/24 9:38 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I've also got another older laptop here from work that I recently did a full install of Leap 15.6 and it works fine with its internal speakers. Both laptops are HP.
So something is blocking my speakers in there somewhere. It must be something in 15.6 because 15.5 and previous worked fine. Is this time for a bug report?
This sounds suspiciously like a driver problem. Did you have anything blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/? What does the following show about the hardware: # inxi -A and # dmesg | grep -i audio ? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <bfae55f3-467d-43c2-b2a0-7dcd58c62841@gmail.com> Date & Time: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 23:16:39 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@gmail.com> has written: DCR> On 9/12/24 9:38 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote: LW> > I've also got another older laptop here from work that I LW> > recently did a full install of Leap 15.6 and it works fine with LW> > its internal speakers. Both laptops are HP. LW> > So something is blocking my speakers in there somewhere. It must be LW> > something in 15.6 because 15.5 and previous worked fine. Is this time LW> > for a bug report? DCR> This sounds suspiciously like a driver problem. [...] It's not true. The audio device, Canon Lake PCH caVS, is an Intel sound chip, and this is a special one that requires separate sof-firmware, and although 15.5 is distributed with this firmware included, for some reason, 15.6 omits it, and it won't sound unless he install it separately himself. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past" -- Rupert Wingfield-Hayes (BBC) --
On 9/13/24 2:11 AM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
DCR> This sounds suspiciously like a driver problem. [...]
It's not true.
The audio device, Canon Lake PCH caVS, is an Intel sound chip, and this is a special one that requires separate sof-firmware, and although 15.5 is distributed with this firmware included, for some reason, 15.6 omits it, and it won't sound unless he install it separately himself.
Glad you got it sorted out Masaru! But... missing part of the software needed to make this special card work kind of sounds like a driver problem ... :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <781e4280-2ba0-4511-b69c-c6cde6360a35@gmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 03:20:25 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@gmail.com> has written: I'm going to bed after about two hours, but are you still awake? DCR> On 9/13/24 2:11 AM, Masaru Nomiya wrote: DCR> > DCR> This sounds suspiciously like a driver problem. MN> > [...] MN> > It's not true. MN> > The audio device, Canon Lake PCH caVS, is an Intel sound chip, and MN> > this is a special one that requires separate sof-firmware, and MN> > although 15.5 is distributed with this firmware included, for some MN> > reason, 15.6 omits it, and it won't sound unless he install it MN> > separately himself. DCR> Glad you got it sorted out Masaru! DCR> But... missing part of the software needed to make this special DCR> card work kind of sounds like a driver problem ... :p You could say that, but it's hard to imagine that the maintener would forget to install the sof-firmware... (_ _? Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices ― and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <87v7z0jadt.wl-nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 16:11:42 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> has written: MN> Hello, MN> In the Message; MN> Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 MN> Message-ID : <bfae55f3-467d-43c2-b2a0-7dcd58c62841@gmail.com> MN> Date & Time: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 23:16:39 -0500 MN> [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@gmail.com> has written: DCR> On 9/12/24 9:38 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote: LW> > I've also got another older laptop here from work that I LW> > recently did a full install of Leap 15.6 and it works fine with LW> > its internal speakers. Both laptops are HP. LW> > So something is blocking my speakers in there somewhere. It must be LW> > something in 15.6 because 15.5 and previous worked fine. Is this time LW> > for a bug report? DCR> This sounds suspiciously like a driver problem. MN> [...] MN> It's not true. MN> The audio device, Canon Lake PCH caVS, is an Intel sound chip, and MN> this is a special one that requires separate sof-firmware, and MN> although 15.5 is distributed with this firmware included, for some MN> reason, 15.6 omits it, and it won't sound unless he install it MN> separately himself. I'm writing about 15.6 based on my guesses. If Lew's having problems with it installed, it might be a problem with the kernel.... Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
On 9/13/24 10:34, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <87v7z0jadt.wl-nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 16:11:42 +0900
[ MN> The audio device, Canon Lake PCH caVS, is an Intel sound chip, and MN> this is a special one that requires separate sof-firmware, and MN> although 15.5 is distributed with this firmware included, for some MN> reason, 15.6 omits it, and it won't sound unless he install it MN> separately himself.
I'm writing about 15.6 based on my guesses.
If Lew's having problems with it installed, it might be a problem with the kernel....
Best Regards. I am also having a lot of audio problems with Leap 15.6, after many years trouble free audio. My Asus laptop has a "Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller ". The kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-tgl that is required for sound support does not load during the 15.6 boot process. It will not load with the modprobe command. The sudio worked fine with Leap 15.4 and 15.5 on this same laptop. I followed the SDB: Audio Troubleshooting guide and also found a thread on the internet suggesting it might be a kernel regression.
So I tried the 'advanced options' in the Grub boot menu and booted the 5.14.21-150500.55.73.X86_64 kernel-default and the audio gets set up properly during boot and I have normal sound. When I boot the 6.4.0-150500.23.17.X86_64 kernel-default, then audio will not work, the audio device does not get configured during boot. Then using Yast - sound, the audio device fails to be configured because the above mentioned kernel module can not be loaded. The audio problem occurs with either a fresh 15.6 install or an upgrade from 15.5 to 15.6. I left out a lot of info but can provide more if it is helpful. Just trying to add my part to perhaps clarify this issue so it may be solved by those with much more knowledge. Gustav.
On 9/13/24 00:11, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID :<bfae55f3-467d-43c2-b2a0-7dcd58c62841@gmail.com> Date & Time: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 23:16:39 -0500
[DCR] == "David C. Rankin"<drankinatty@gmail.com> has written:
DCR> On 9/12/24 9:38 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote: LW> > I've also got another older laptop here from work that I LW> > recently did a full install of Leap 15.6 and it works fine with LW> > its internal speakers. Both laptops are HP.
LW> > So something is blocking my speakers in there somewhere. It must be LW> > something in 15.6 because 15.5 and previous worked fine. Is this time LW> > for a bug report?
DCR> This sounds suspiciously like a driver problem. [...]
It's not true.
The audio device, Canon Lake PCH caVS, is an Intel sound chip, and this is a special one that requires separate sof-firmware, and although 15.5 is distributed with this firmware included, for some reason, 15.6 omits it, and it won't sound unless he install it separately himself.
Hi Masaru, sof-firmware-2023.09.2-150600.1.2.noarch is installed on the non-functioning laptop. Looking on laptop2, which had the full install on a blank disk and has working speakers, also has sof-firmware installed. But this lappie doesn't have the Canon Lake PCH caVS sound chip. Yast2 Sound identifies it as Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio, but it's "Not Configured". Yet the speakers work. Go figure. So, seeing that a non-configured sound chip still works, on laptop1 (with the bad speakers) I set the chip to non-configured using the Yast2 Sound screen. Speakers still don't work. So I tried to re-configure it and it errors out with this message: "kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters." So at this point, laptop1's speakers are still mute, and my BlueTooth buds still work, even with the unconfigured Cannon Lake thing. This so reminds me of the rabbit holes we used to run through with sound back in the old days! I'm thinking the only thing for me do do now, short of submitting a bug report, is to do a full 15.6 install. My feeling is that will work. Any suggestions? Regards, Lew
On 9/13/24 11:54 AM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
"kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters."
I stand by my suspicion, this is a driver problem somewhere, either the lack of a driver or messed up parameters. The fact that YaST shows the sound as "Not Configured" is a tell. I don't have any new Intel hardware to check (I like my old HP laptops too :), so Masaru or somebody else that knows that driver will have to help further. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Op vrijdag 13 september 2024 19:39:03 CEST schreef David C. Rankin:
On 9/13/24 11:54 AM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
"kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters."
I stand by my suspicion, this is a driver problem somewhere, either the lack of a driver or messed up parameters.
The fact that YaST shows the sound as "Not Configured" is a tell.
I don't have any new Intel hardware to check (I like my old HP laptops too :), so Masaru or somebody else that knows that driver will have to help further. Is sof-fimware installed ?
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
On 9/13/24 10:59, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op vrijdag 13 september 2024 19:39:03 CEST schreef David C. Rankin:
On 9/13/24 11:54 AM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
"kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters." I stand by my suspicion, this is a driver problem somewhere, either the lack of a driver or messed up parameters.
The fact that YaST shows the sound as "Not Configured" is a tell.
I don't have any new Intel hardware to check (I like my old HP laptops too :), so Masaru or somebody else that knows that driver will have to help further. Is sof-fimware installed ?
Yes, sof-firmware is installed. Regards, Lew
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <6fbeb288-2e63-44a3-9faf-94068174cd77@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:54:29 -0700 [LW] == Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written: [...] LW> Hi Masaru, sof-firmware-2023.09.2-150600.1.2.noarch is installed LW> on the non-functioning laptop. LW> Looking on laptop2, which had the full install on a blank disk and has LW> working speakers, also has sof-firmware installed. But this lappie LW> doesn't have the Canon Lake PCH caVS sound chip. Yast2 Sound LW> identifies it as Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio, but it's "Not Configured". LW> Yet the speakers work. Go figure. LW> So, seeing that a non-configured sound chip still works, on laptop1 LW> (with the bad speakers) I set the chip to non-configured using the LW> Yast2 Sound screen. Speakers still don't work. So I tried to re-configure LW> it and it errors out with this message: LW> "kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl could not be loaded. This can be LW> caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ LW> parameters." LW> So at this point, laptop1's speakers are still mute, and my BlueTooth LW> buds still work, even with the unconfigured Cannon Lake thing. LW> This so reminds me of the rabbit holes we used to run through with LW> sound back in the old days! LW> I'm thinking the only thing for me do do now, short of submitting a bug LW> report, is to do a full 15.6 install. My feeling is that will work. Any LW> suggestions? Isn't this your issue? https://forums.opensuse.org/t/new-installation-of-leap-15-6-no-sound-the-ker... Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Loyalty cards are a symbol of "spending" not "saving"... I saved 20,000 yen a month when I stopped "act of collecting points"" -- Shihomi Shimomura --
On 9/13/24 16:05, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID :<6fbeb288-2e63-44a3-9faf-94068174cd77@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:54:29 -0700
[LW] == Lew Wolfgang<wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written:
[...] LW> Hi Masaru, sof-firmware-2023.09.2-150600.1.2.noarch is installed LW> on the non-functioning laptop.
LW> Looking on laptop2, which had the full install on a blank disk and has LW> working speakers, also has sof-firmware installed. But this lappie LW> doesn't have the Canon Lake PCH caVS sound chip. Yast2 Sound LW> identifies it as Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio, but it's "Not Configured". LW> Yet the speakers work. Go figure.
LW> So, seeing that a non-configured sound chip still works, on laptop1 LW> (with the bad speakers) I set the chip to non-configured using the LW> Yast2 Sound screen. Speakers still don't work. So I tried to re-configure LW> it and it errors out with this message:
LW> "kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl could not be loaded. This can be LW> caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ LW> parameters."
LW> So at this point, laptop1's speakers are still mute, and my BlueTooth LW> buds still work, even with the unconfigured Cannon Lake thing.
LW> This so reminds me of the rabbit holes we used to run through with LW> sound back in the old days!
LW> I'm thinking the only thing for me do do now, short of submitting a bug LW> report, is to do a full 15.6 install. My feeling is that will work. Any LW> suggestions?
Isn't this your issue?
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/new-installation-of-leap-15-6-no-sound-the-ker...
Yes! That sounds like my issue. But note that there's no fix, it just started to work in its own! I have yet to blow away my existing upgraded system and install from scratch. This is my main telework box. At least my Bluetooth earbuds are a work-around. Actually, I'm a bit surprised that Bluetooth is working as well as it is... I've been down that rabbit-hole in the past too. Regards, Lew
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Found!? (Was: Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6) Message-ID : <7e965ff6-a499-4747-9079-6495d791ca2c@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 16:25:28 -0700 [LW] == Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written: LW> On 9/13/24 16:05, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > Isn't this your issue? MN> > https://forums.opensuse.org/t/new-installation-of-leap-15-6-no-sound-the-ker... LW> Yes! That sounds like my issue. But note that there's no fix, LW> it just started to work in its own! I have yet to blow away my LW> existing upgraded system and install from scratch. This is my LW> main telework box. At least my Bluetooth earbuds are a LW> work-around. Actually, I'm a bit surprised that Bluetooth is LW> working as well as it is... I've been down that rabbit-hole in LW> the past too. If you weren't using pipewire, you wouldn't have been able to use bluetooth either. Your problem is kernel-dependent, but if it doesn't interfere with telework, then waiting patiently for an update is probably the way to go. But you should do this at least; 1. $ sudo rm -f /etc/alsa/conf.d/99-pipewire-default.conf 2. mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.orig If you can use alsa, you should be able to understand the meaning of these operations by trying to play sound with aplay. Pipewire has greatly improved sound quality, but it has a lot of bugs..... Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past" -- Rupert Wingfield-Hayes (BBC) --
On 9/12/24 9:38 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I've also got another older laptop here from work that I recently did a full install of Leap 15.6 and it works fine with its internal speakers. Both laptops are HP.
So something is blocking my speakers in there somewhere. It must be something in 15.6 because 15.5 and previous worked fine. Is this time for a bug report?
I guess the last could better be to catch both sound 'snd' and 'audio': # dmesg | grep -i 'audio\|snd' -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <33a2a6d7-415a-48d4-b9e6-5cb40cbc43d3@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 18:37:43 -0700 [LW] == Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written: LW> [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>] [...] LW> Hi Masaru, thanks for the suggestion. But no luck I'm afraid. It, LW> and the KD speaker control list the output device as a USB Audio LW> Headset. But I don't have a headset plugged in, just the built-in LW> laptop speakers. Yast's Sound module says the audio device is a Canon LW> Lake PCH caVS. [...] Thanks. How about with the sof-firmware installation? Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices ― and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
On 9/13/24 04:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-12 17:27, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm encountering audio issues after in-place upgrades from Leap 15.5 to 15.6.
By that do you mean the "zypper dup" procedure, or booting the DVD and choosing upgrade?
Hi Carlos, it was upgraded from the ISO on a USB thumbdrive.. Regards, Lew
On 2024-09-13 18:12, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 04:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-12 17:27, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm encountering audio issues after in-place upgrades from Leap 15.5 to 15.6.
By that do you mean the "zypper dup" procedure, or booting the DVD and choosing upgrade?
Hi Carlos, it was upgraded from the ISO on a USB thumbdrive..
Ok. An Offline Upgrade. This method can not upgrade everything (the ISO does not contain everything, not big enough). In the past it happened always, now it happens sometimes. Networking is not always active during the upgrade, repositories are not always active. The result in those cases is that not all packages get upgraded. run this concoction: rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \ %{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE}\t%{arch} \ %25{VENDOR}%25{PACKAGER} == %{DISTRIBUTION} %{DISTTAG}\n" \ | sort | cut --fields="2-" | tee rpmlist \ | egrep -v "openSUSE Leap 15\.6|openSUSE_Leap_15.6|\-lp156|SUSE Linux Enterprise 15|openSUSE\ Leap\ 15.6" | less -S Warning: I do not have 15.6 myself, so the strings could be wrong and may need adjusting. The result will be a list of packages that do not belong to 15.6 and have to be inspected manually, and perhaps upgraded somehow. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/13/24 11:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 18:12, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 04:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-12 17:27, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm encountering audio issues after in-place upgrades from Leap 15.5 to 15.6.
By that do you mean the "zypper dup" procedure, or booting the DVD and choosing upgrade?
Hi Carlos, it was upgraded from the ISO on a USB thumbdrive..
Ok.
An Offline Upgrade.
This method can not upgrade everything (the ISO does not contain everything, not big enough). In the past it happened always, now it happens sometimes. Networking is not always active during the upgrade, repositories are not always active. The result in those cases is that not all packages get upgraded.
run this concoction:
rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \ %{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE}\t%{arch} \ %25{VENDOR}%25{PACKAGER} == %{DISTRIBUTION} %{DISTTAG}\n" \ | sort | cut --fields="2-" | tee rpmlist \ | egrep -v "openSUSE Leap 15\.6|openSUSE_Leap_15.6|\-lp156|SUSE Linux Enterprise 15|openSUSE\ Leap\ 15.6" | less -S
Warning: I do not have 15.6 myself, so the strings could be wrong and may need adjusting.
The result will be a list of packages that do not belong to 15.6 and have to be inspected manually, and perhaps upgraded somehow.
Thanks Carlos, I'll give that a try in a bit. But the upgrade did have the external repositories enabled. Regards, Lew
On 2024-09-13 22:42, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 11:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 18:12, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 04:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-12 17:27, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Hi Carlos, it was upgraded from the ISO on a USB thumbdrive..
Ok.
An Offline Upgrade.
This method can not upgrade everything (the ISO does not contain everything, not big enough). In the past it happened always, now it happens sometimes. Networking is not always active during the upgrade, repositories are not always active. The result in those cases is that not all packages get upgraded.
run this concoction:
rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \ %{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE}\t%{arch} \ %25{VENDOR}%25{PACKAGER} == %{DISTRIBUTION} %{DISTTAG}\n" \ | sort | cut --fields="2-" | tee rpmlist \ | egrep -v "openSUSE Leap 15\.6|openSUSE_Leap_15.6|\-lp156|SUSE Linux Enterprise 15|openSUSE\ Leap\ 15.6" | less -S
Warning: I do not have 15.6 myself, so the strings could be wrong and may need adjusting.
The result will be a list of packages that do not belong to 15.6 and have to be inspected manually, and perhaps upgraded somehow.
Thanks Carlos, I'll give that a try in a bit. But the upgrade did have the external repositories enabled.
When I do an upgrade, I always make sure after with that concoction. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/13/24 18:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 22:42, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 11:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 18:12, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 04:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-12 17:27, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Hi Carlos, it was upgraded from the ISO on a USB thumbdrive..
Ok.
An Offline Upgrade.
This method can not upgrade everything (the ISO does not contain everything, not big enough). In the past it happened always, now it happens sometimes. Networking is not always active during the upgrade, repositories are not always active. The result in those cases is that not all packages get upgraded.
run this concoction:
rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \ %{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE}\t%{arch} \ %25{VENDOR}%25{PACKAGER} == %{DISTRIBUTION} %{DISTTAG}\n" \ | sort | cut --fields="2-" | tee rpmlist \ | egrep -v "openSUSE Leap 15\.6|openSUSE_Leap_15.6|\-lp156|SUSE Linux Enterprise 15|openSUSE\ Leap\ 15.6" | less -S
Warning: I do not have 15.6 myself, so the strings could be wrong and may need adjusting.
The result will be a list of packages that do not belong to 15.6 and have to be inspected manually, and perhaps upgraded somehow.
Thanks Carlos, I'll give that a try in a bit. But the upgrade did have the external repositories enabled.
When I do an upgrade, I always make sure after with that concoction.
I ran it and didn't find anything from 15.5, but there were some from 15.2! Regards, Lew
On 9/13/24 8:50 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I ran it and didn't find anything from 15.5, but there were some from 15.2!
Another reason I have a strict (1) new SSD, (2) fresh-install policy. Never does me wrong.... and: $ grep '^/dev/sd[ab]' /proc/mounts /dev/sda3 / ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/wz ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 /dev/sdb4 /mnt/wz/home ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 sda - Tumbleweed sdb - Leap 15.4 spare box of drives back to 9.0 Pro... (8.x and 7.x no longer survive on disk) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 9/13/24 19:49, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 9/13/24 8:50 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I ran it and didn't find anything from 15.5, but there were some from 15.2!
Another reason I have a strict (1) new SSD, (2) fresh-install policy. Never does me wrong.... and:
$ grep '^/dev/sd[ab]' /proc/mounts /dev/sda3 / ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/wz ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 /dev/sdb4 /mnt/wz/home ext4 rw,relatime 0 0
sda - Tumbleweed sdb - Leap 15.4
spare box of drives back to 9.0 Pro... (8.x and 7.x no longer survive on disk)
There's a lot to be said for that method. I used to do full installs on pre-formatted "butterfly" partitions. Install on one partition, next version install on the second, next version install on the first. I could always boot the previous partition. I know, but I don't use btrfs. ext4 for root, and xfs everywhere else works for me. But the in-place upgrades have been working very well, this sound problem is the first I've noticed. In-place upgrades save a LOT of time when you've got multiple dozens of machines to upgrade. Regards, Lew
On 2024-09-14 06:43, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 19:49, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 9/13/24 8:50 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I ran it and didn't find anything from 15.5, but there were some from 15.2!
Forgot to ask what which packages were those.
Another reason I have a strict (1) new SSD, (2) fresh-install policy. Never does me wrong.... and:
$ grep '^/dev/sd[ab]' /proc/mounts /dev/sda3 / ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/wz ext4 rw,relatime 0 0 /dev/sdb4 /mnt/wz/home ext4 rw,relatime 0 0
sda - Tumbleweed sdb - Leap 15.4
spare box of drives back to 9.0 Pro... (8.x and 7.x no longer survive on disk)
There's a lot to be said for that method. I used to do full installs on pre-formatted "butterfly" partitions. Install on one partition, next version install on the second, next version install on the first. I could always boot the previous partition. I know, but I don't use btrfs. ext4 for root, and xfs everywhere else works for me.
But the in-place upgrades have been working very well, this sound problem is the first I've noticed. In-place upgrades save a LOT of time when you've got multiple dozens of machines to upgrade.
Chances are the problem would also appear in a new install on the same hardware. See Gustav Degreef's post. Another possibility is to install fresh on another partition a small system; if sound works there, then compare both systems to see what is different, then try to repair the big system. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 18:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 22:42, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 11:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The result will be a list of packages that do not belong to 15.6 and have to be inspected manually, and perhaps upgraded somehow.
Thanks Carlos, I'll give that a try in a bit. But the upgrade did have the external repositories enabled.
When I do an upgrade, I always make sure after with that concoction.
I ran it and didn't find anything from 15.5, but there were some from 15.2!
Heh :-) So the upgrade ran good. Well, upgrade those, if possible. Sometimes they are not upgradeable and have to be deleted. But some are simply gpg keys which you can ignore. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 18:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 22:42, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/13/24 11:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The result will be a list of packages that do not belong to 15.6 and have to be inspected manually, and perhaps upgraded somehow.
Thanks Carlos, I'll give that a try in a bit. But the upgrade did have the external repositories enabled.
When I do an upgrade, I always make sure after with that concoction.
I ran it and didn't find anything from 15.5, but there were some from 15.2!
Heh :-)
So the upgrade ran good.
Well, upgrade those, if possible. Sometimes they are not upgradeable and have to be deleted. But some are simply gpg keys which you can ignore.
I found another thread very much related to the current audio problem : Leap 15.6 - no sound. Kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl cannot be loaded - English / Multimedia - openSUSE Forums <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/leap-15-6-no-sound-kernel-module-snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl-cannot-be-loaded/177876> Seems to confirm the problem is with the kernel. I checked my Asus system for sof-firmware and it was installed, so as others have noted this is not the core problem. On the latest boot, my sound card is configured and I have sound, so like others have noted, the problem is intermittent and unpredictable. Apparently there is already a bug report and a fix and someone mentions that the recommendation is to update the kernel. Like me, another user 'fixed' the problem by not booting the latest 6.4.xxxs kernel, but instead booting an earlier 5.14.xxx kernel. Does anyone have an idea when Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware? Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel? Thanks, Gustav.
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I found another thread very much related to the current audio problem : Leap 15.6 - no sound. Kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl cannot be loaded - English / Multimedia - openSUSE Forums <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/leap-15-6-no-sound-kernel-module-snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl-cannot-be-loaded/177876>
Seems to confirm the problem is with the kernel. I checked my Asus system for sof-firmware and it was installed, so as others have noted this is not the core problem. On the latest boot, my sound card is configured and I have sound, so like others have noted, the problem is intermittent and unpredictable. Apparently there is already a bug report and a fix and someone mentions that the recommendation is to update the kernel. Like me, another user 'fixed' the problem by not booting the latest 6.4.xxxs kernel, but instead booting an earlier 5.14.xxx kernel.
Does anyone have an idea when Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel?
Lock it. For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3 You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks, Gustav.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I found another thread very much related to the current audio problem : Leap 15.6 - no sound. Kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl cannot be loaded - English / Multimedia - openSUSE Forums <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/leap-15-6-no-sound-kernel-module-snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl-cannot-be-loaded/177876>
Seems to confirm the problem is with the kernel. I checked my Asus system for sof-firmware and it was installed, so as others have noted this is not the core problem. On the latest boot, my sound card is configured and I have sound, so like others have noted, the problem is intermittent and unpredictable. Apparently there is already a bug report and a fix and someone mentions that the recommendation is to update the kernel. Like me, another user 'fixed' the problem by not booting the latest 6.4.xxxs kernel, but instead booting an earlier 5.14.xxx kernel.
Does anyone have an idea when Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel?
Lock it.
For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3
You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks for your specific and practical advice Carlos. I will look into it. As for reporting the bug, I am quite visually impaired and it is a great effort even to track this audio issue down and report my experience on this list. I have never reported a bug and have no idea even where to start. Best regards, Gustav
On 2024-09-16 12:32, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel
which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel?
Lock it.
For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3
You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks for your specific and practical advice Carlos. I will look into it. As for reporting the bug, I am quite visually impaired and it is a great effort even to track this audio issue down and report my experience on this list. I have never reported a bug and have no idea even where to start. Best regards, Gustav
Then perhaps any one of those suffering the same problem can create the Bugzilla, and post the link here. But unless someone does it, the devs are not aware that there is a problem and they are will not publish a solution. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/16/24 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-16 12:32, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel
which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel?
Lock it.
For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3
You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks for your specific and practical advice Carlos. I will look into it. As for reporting the bug, I am quite visually impaired and it is a great effort even to track this audio issue down and report my experience on this list. I have never reported a bug and have no idea even where to start. Best regards, Gustav
Then perhaps any one of those suffering the same problem can create the Bugzilla, and post the link here.
But unless someone does it, the devs are not aware that there is a problem and they are will not publish a solution.
I would be willing to try, but I would need a fair amount of assistance, Gustav
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:58:31 +0200 Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/16/24 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-16 12:32, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel
which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel?
Lock it.
For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3
You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks for your specific and practical advice Carlos. I will look into it. As for reporting the bug, I am quite visually impaired and it is a great effort even to track this audio issue down and report my experience on this list. I have never reported a bug and have no idea even where to start. Best regards, Gustav
Then perhaps any one of those suffering the same problem can create the Bugzilla, and post the link here.
But unless someone does it, the devs are not aware that there is a problem and they are will not publish a solution.
I would be willing to try, but I would need a fair amount of assistance, Gustav
Start at https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/index.cgi That will take you to https://idp-portal.suse.com/univention/self-service/#page=createaccount If you have problems, come back and ask :)
On 9/16/24 17:51, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:58:31 +0200 Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/16/24 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote: Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware? You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel? Lock it.
For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3
You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks for your specific and practical advice Carlos. I will look into it. As for reporting the bug, I am quite visually impaired and it is a great effort even to track this audio issue down and report my experience on this list. I have never reported a bug and have no idea even where to start. Best regards, Gustav Then perhaps any one of those suffering the same problem can create
On 2024-09-16 12:32, Gustav Degreef wrote: the Bugzilla, and post the link here.
But unless someone does it, the devs are not aware that there is a problem and they are will not publish a solution.
I would be willing to try, but I would need a fair amount of assistance, Gustav Start at https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/index.cgi That will take you to https://idp-portal.suse.com/univention/self-service/#page=createaccount If you have problems, come back and ask :) OK, I'll give it a go, Gustav
On 9/16/24 03:32, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I found another thread very much related to the current audio problem : Leap 15.6 - no sound. Kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl cannot be loaded - English / Multimedia - openSUSE Forums <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/leap-15-6-no-sound-kernel-module-snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl-cannot-be-loaded/177876>
Seems to confirm the problem is with the kernel. I checked my Asus system for sof-firmware and it was installed, so as others have noted this is not the core problem. On the latest boot, my sound card is configured and I have sound, so like others have noted, the problem is intermittent and unpredictable. Apparently there is already a bug report and a fix and someone mentions that the recommendation is to update the kernel. Like me, another user 'fixed' the problem by not booting the latest 6.4.xxxs kernel, but instead booting an earlier 5.14.xxx kernel.
Does anyone have an idea when Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
Also, how to prevent my 5.14.xxx kernel from being deleted or removed from the GRUB menu (as updates come in), while I wait for a new kernel?
Lock it.
For instance, see https://forums.opensuse.org/t/locking-unlocking-kernel/173609/3
You might do it with YaST, but I'm not sure right now.
Thanks for your specific and practical advice Carlos. I will look into it. As for reporting the bug, I am quite visually impaired and it is a great effort even to track this audio issue down and report my experience on this list. I have never reported a bug and have no idea even where to start.
I guess it's up to me to report. I've got another one filed (Bug 1230111) that hasn't seen any action in almost two weeks. Which is a little surprising in that it's a segfault in libcrypto, a part of libopenssl. I thought that any crash in a crypto library was of concern in that it could lead to significant new vulnerabilities. Maybe someone's working on it without me knowing about it? This particular bug is a show stopper for us in upgrading to Leap 15.6. It crashes subversion access when SASL encryption is enabled. I'll collect my thoughts on the sound problem and try to submit a rational bug report. Regards, Lew
On 9/16/24 18:20, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I'll collect my thoughts on the sound problem and try to submit a rational bug report.
Regards, Lew
If you can do that, it would be great. As part of following the SDB: Audio Troubleshooting guide, I ran a script that collects a lot of the system information and posts it as a URL on the ALSA site. Would it be helpul to post that link? Gustav
On 9/16/24 10:21, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/16/24 18:20, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I'll collect my thoughts on the sound problem and try to submit a rational bug report.
Regards, Lew
If you can do that, it would be great. As part of following the SDB: Audio Troubleshooting guide, I ran a script that collects a lot of the system information and posts it as a URL on the ALSA site. Would it be helpul to post that link? Gustav
Hi Gustav, sure, send the link and I'll take a look. Regards, Lew
On 9/16/24 19:36, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 9/16/24 10:21, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/16/24 18:20, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I'll collect my thoughts on the sound problem and try to submit a rational bug report.
Regards, Lew
If you can do that, it would be great. As part of following the SDB: Audio Troubleshooting guide, I ran a script that collects a lot of the system information and posts it as a URL on the ALSA site. Would it be helpul to post that link? Gustav
Hi Gustav, sure, send the link and I'll take a look.
Regards, Lew Thanks Lew.
This is the error message when trying to configure the sound card with the :sound" utility in Yast-hardware: "The kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-tgl for sound support could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters."" The output of /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh is located at - http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=a9ad191432c5559e57f3fdd669bceaf1e9b0fb7d 'Anything else I can do regarding this, please let me know, Gustav.
Hello, Sorry I missed yours. In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <70de32b0-071f-4677-ac26-1b09aacb64ba@gmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:18:17 +0200 [GD] == Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> has written: [...] GD> This is the error message when trying to configure the sound card with the GD> :sound" utility in Yast-hardware: GD> "The kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-tgl for sound support GD> could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect GD> module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters."" GD> The output of /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh GD> is located at - GD> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=a9ad191432c5559e57f3fdd669bceaf1e9b0fb7d GD> 'Anything else I can do regarding this, please let me know, Gustav. Have you tried this? $ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1' Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem." -- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
On 9/17/24 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
Sorry I missed yours.
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <70de32b0-071f-4677-ac26-1b09aacb64ba@gmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:18:17 +0200
[GD] == Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> has written:
[...] GD> This is the error message when trying to configure the sound card with the GD> :sound" utility in Yast-hardware: GD> "The kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-tgl for sound support GD> could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect GD> module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.""
GD> The output of /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh
GD> is located at - GD> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=a9ad191432c5559e57f3fdd669bceaf1e9b0fb7d
GD> 'Anything else I can do regarding this, please let me know, Gustav.
Have you tried this?
$ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1'
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya Thank you Masaru for your help. I had not tried that before. The output of that command is: $ options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1
I then rebooted and I have normal sound. I did not have to do anything else but run your command, then reboot, and the sound works. Prior to this I had booted into this system about 20 times and on 2 occasions I had normal sound. I do not know if this fixes the problem permanently, but it is encouraging. Thank you, I will report back, especially if the fix continues to hold. Gustav
On 2024-09-17 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
Have you tried this?
$ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1'
I'm totally confused by this concoction. Three "arrows"? I don't think I have ever seen it. Care to explain the line? Googling, I find a reference from 11 years ago: "it seems < is for passing file (or directory), << @ for passing multiple lines (similar to the banner command in cisco switches; as terminated by a custom string @ in this case), and <<< to pass a string (instead of file)." <https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/80362/what-does-mean> But I'm still confused about why use "tee", instead of echo 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1' >> \ /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
17.09.2024 19:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-17 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
I'm totally confused by this concoction. Three "arrows"? I don't think I have ever seen it. Care to explain the line?
man bash /<<<
But I'm still confused about why use "tee", instead of
echo 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1' >> \ /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf
Because it does not work as non-root.
On 2024-09-17 20:10, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
17.09.2024 19:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-17 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
I'm totally confused by this concoction. Three "arrows"? I don't think I have ever seen it. Care to explain the line?
man bash /<<<
Man is typically not easy to read. There is not much, though: Here Strings A variant of here documents, the format is: [n]<<<word The word undergoes brace expansion, tilde expansion, parameter and variable expansion, command substitution, arithmetic expan- sion, and quote removal. Pathname expansion and word splitting are not performed. The result is supplied as a single string, with a newline appended, to the command on its standard input (or file descriptor n if n is specified).
But I'm still confused about why use "tee", instead of
echo 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1' >> \ /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf
Because it does not work as non-root.
Maybe some type of bracket would :-? Curious. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/17/24 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
Sorry I missed yours.
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <70de32b0-071f-4677-ac26-1b09aacb64ba@gmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:18:17 +0200
[GD] == Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> has written:
[...] GD> This is the error message when trying to configure the sound card with the GD> :sound" utility in Yast-hardware: GD> "The kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-tgl for sound support GD> could not be loaded. This can be caused by incorrect GD> module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.""
GD> The output of /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh
GD> is located at - GD> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=a9ad191432c5559e57f3fdd669bceaf1e9b0fb7d
GD> 'Anything else I can do regarding this, please let me know, Gustav.
Have you tried this?
$ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1'
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya
That seems to have clearly fixed the audio problem. I've booted about 10 times since and the audio wors each time. Prior to this it only worked once or twice in 20 attempts. Thanks Masaru and Lew, Carlos and others. Does a bug fix need to be submitted? Gustav
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <fc811531-cdee-4817-92c7-1bfa0d7e1b74@gmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:53:50 +0200 [GD] == Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> has written: GD> On 9/17/24 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > Have you tried this? MN> > $ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1' [...] GD> That seems to have clearly fixed the audio problem. I've booted GD> about 10 times since and the audio wors each time. Prior to this GD> itonly worked once or twice in 20 attempts. Thanks Masaru and GD> Lew, Carlos and others. Does a bug fix need to be submitted? This is a problem that originates in the upstream (kernel), but it would be good to report it. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Loyalty cards are a symbol of "spending" not "saving"... I saved 20,000 yen a month when I stopped "act of collecting points"" -- Shihomi Shimomura --
On 9/21/24 03:53, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
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Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <fc811531-cdee-4817-92c7-1bfa0d7e1b74@gmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:53:50 +0200
[GD] == Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail.com> has written:
GD> On 9/17/24 14:56, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > Have you tried this?
MN> > $ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1' [...] GD> That seems to have clearly fixed the audio problem. I've booted GD> about 10 times since and the audio wors each time. Prior to this GD> itonly worked once or twice in 20 attempts. Thanks Masaru and GD> Lew, Carlos and others. Does a bug fix need to be submitted?
This is a problem that originates in the upstream (kernel), but it would be good to report it.
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya I am preparing to go on a fairly long trip, so I can not deal with the bug report now, sorry. But when I come back, I will try and do it by following the link someone supplied earlier in the thread. Gustav.
On 9/20/24 08:53, Gustav Degreef wrote:
Have you tried this?
$ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1'
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya
That seems to have clearly fixed the audio problem. I've booted about 10 times since and the audio wors each time. Prior to this it only worked once or twice in 20 attempts. Thanks Masaru and Lew, Carlos and others. Does a bug fix need to be submitted? Gustav
It works for me too! Thanks Masaru, good catch! Now I can listen again to Lynyrd Skynyrd playing Free Bird at the Oakland Coliseum in 1977 again! (seriously, that's what I use to test sound systems) Regards, Lew
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Audio Issues When In-place Upgrading to Leap 15.6 Message-ID : <86ff539a-b471-4f5c-8bfe-334497c4a380@sweet-haven.com> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 19:02:15 -0700 [LW] == Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> has written: LW> [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>] LW> On 9/20/24 08:53, Gustav Degreef wrote: [...] MN>>> $ sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio.conf <<< 'options snd-intel-dspcfg MN>>> dsp_driver=1' GD>> That seems to have clearly fixed the audio problem. I've booted about 10 GD>> times since and the audio wors each time. Prior to this it only worked once GD>> or twice in 20 attempts. Thanks Masaru and Lew, Carlos and others. Does a GD>> bug fix need to be submitted? Gustav LW> It works for me too! Thanks Masaru, good catch! This is a temporary solution that forces the device to be recognized. I looked into it and found that there was another problem that had occurred before, and it was resolved by updating the kernel. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204679 If there is an update to the kernel, please check to see if the problem has been resolved. LW> Now I can listen again to Lynyrd Skynyrd playing Free Bird at the LW> Oakland Coliseum in 1977 again! (seriously, that's what I use to LW> test sound systems) You're using sound source files, right? I'm doing an audio check using the wav files of the seven reference sounds. By the way, please try this on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCbLLge0tOE&ab_channel=TheCharmingGeek When you do this, you can see that pipewire has been developed with the assumption that it will be used to play back sound through headphones. I have a 2.1 speaker system, but even with a notebook PC with poor 2-way speakers, I can still feel this. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem." -- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
On 9/23/24 9:29 PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
LW> Now I can listen again to Lynyrd Skynyrd playing Free Bird at the LW> Oakland Coliseum in 1977 again! (seriously, that's what I use to LW> test sound systems)
Gold & Platinum Live (1980) - one of the best albums ever. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 9/15/24 22:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-15 19:57, Gustav Degreef wrote:
On 9/14/24 14:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-09-14 03:50, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I found another thread very much related to the current audio problem : Leap 15.6 - no sound. Kernel module snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl cannot be loaded - English / Multimedia - openSUSE Forums <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/leap-15-6-no-sound-kernel-module-snd-sof-pci-intel-cnl-cannot-be-loaded/177876>
Seems to confirm the problem is with the kernel. I checked my Asus system for sof-firmware and it was installed, so as others have noted this is not the core problem. On the latest boot, my sound card is configured and I have sound, so like others have noted, the problem is intermittent and unpredictable. Apparently there is already a bug report and a fix and someone mentions that the recommendation is to update the kernel. Like me, another user 'fixed' the problem by not booting the latest 6.4.xxxs kernel, but instead booting an earlier 5.14.xxx kernel.
Does anyone have an idea when Leap 15.6 might have an updated kernel which fixes this issue with these Intel sound hardware?
You need to report the issue in Bugzilla.
I did think my problem might need to be reported. One aspect of this problem seems to be that it is happening with different (but perhaps quite similar) hardware. The OP, myself and those users of the previous thread I reported all seem to involve different kernel modules which are not being loaded. They seem to be with Intel audio chips and in some users it involves Tiger Lake (though not the sam as mine) chips. The previous thread I mentioned noted that a bug report was filed and closed with a fix already in the pipeline. All of this makes it confusing for me as to how my issue could be reported and if it needs to be reported. Gustav.
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Gustav Degreef -
Knurpht-openSUSE -
Lew Wolfgang -
Masaru Nomiya