I just recently installed the ATI Radeon 9200 driver that I downloaded from the Suse ftp site. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/ATI/suse91/fglrx/3.14.6/ While the drivers work very good, there have been all kinds of bad side effects. For one, I am no longer able to see DVDs playing correctly ( using ogle or mplayer ). (1) They play in an image that is 1/4 the screen size ( here is a screenshot : http://home.earthlink.net/~jabailo/imgs/mplayer_too_small_image.jpg ) (2) someone suggested using the "-vo sdl" switch, but at that point the DVD plays jerkily and slow. This reminded me of the way it played before I configured my DMA settings. But when I launched Control Center to configure my DMA settings, an alert popped up saying "No compatible disk controller found". Before installing the ATI driver I was able to configure the DMA settings. (3) I cannot configure my mouse to be left handed. When I try to configure that via Control Center, the left/right handed radio button is greyed out. I have to run a line command, using xmodmap. But I have to run it each time I sign on ( and I dual boot, so I sign on a lot ). No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 04:40 pm, john bailo wrote:
I just recently installed the ATI Radeon 9200 driver that I downloaded from the Suse ftp site.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/ATI/suse91/fglrx/3.1 4.6/
While the drivers work very good, there have been all kinds of bad side effects.
For one, I am no longer able to see DVDs playing correctly ( using ogle or mplayer ).
(1) They play in an image that is 1/4 the screen size ( here is a screenshot :
http://home.earthlink.net/~jabailo/imgs/mplayer_too_small_image.jpg )
(2) someone suggested using the "-vo sdl" switch, but at that point the DVD plays jerkily and slow. This reminded me of the way it played before I configured my DMA settings. But when I launched Control Center to configure my DMA settings, an alert popped up saying
"No compatible disk controller found".
Before installing the ATI driver I was able to configure the DMA settings.
(3) I cannot configure my mouse to be left handed. When I try to configure that via Control Center, the left/right handed radio button is greyed out. I have to run a line command, using xmodmap. But I have to run it each time I sign on ( and I dual boot, so I sign on a lot ). =============
Why would you want to install the ATI driver? The 9200 is well supported using the radeon module in the kernel and with sax2. You also may want to update to the X.org drivers from SuSE's mirrors, if you are still running XFree86 files. Don't forget to update your sax2 files as well. Those will be needed to get the best setup from your new Xorg files. All those should be located close to where you got the ATI drivers. I'm running the 9200 myself and everything sets up nicely without the ATI drivers installed. regards, Lee
On Thursday 16 December 2004 06:24, BandiPat wrote:
Why would you want to install the ATI driver? The 9200 is well supported using the radeon module in the kernel and with sax2. You also may want to update to the X.org drivers from SuSE's mirrors, if you are still running XFree86 files. Don't forget to update your sax2 files as well. Those will be needed to get the best setup from your new Xorg files. All those should be located close to where you got the ATI drivers.
I'm running the 9200 myself and everything sets up nicely without the ATI drivers installed.
Have you tried some of the OpenGL screensavers? Specifically Euphoria. Mine is very jumpy without the ATI drivers from SUSE. I just wish they would update their packages for 9.2 Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.2 Kernel 2.6.8 KDE 3.3.0 Kmail 1.7.1 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:14pm up 22:29, 4 users, load average: 2.68, 2.55, 2.41
Hmm. Just be thankful you don't have an Athlon64, running 64bit SuSE. ATI are so far behind the game for their Linux drivers it's unreal. Does anyone have any hint of when they might see fit to release their next version of the Linux driver (which apparently will include 64 bit support)? Cheers, Jb. -- Jonathan Brooks (Ph.D.) PaIN Group, Dept of Human Anatomy and Genetics/FMRIB Centre, University of Oxford tel: 01865-282654 fax: 01865-282656 web: http://www.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/~jon -----Original Message----- From: Mike [mailto:mike@mikenjane.net] Sent: 16 December 2004 15:16 To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] New Suse ATI 9200 drivers On Thursday 16 December 2004 06:24, BandiPat wrote:
Why would you want to install the ATI driver? The 9200 is well supported using the radeon module in the kernel and with sax2. You also may want to update to the X.org drivers from SuSE's mirrors, if you are still running XFree86 files. Don't forget to update your sax2 files as well. Those will be needed to get the best setup from your new Xorg files. All those should be located close to where you got the ATI drivers.
I'm running the 9200 myself and everything sets up nicely without the ATI drivers installed.
Have you tried some of the OpenGL screensavers? Specifically Euphoria. Mine is very jumpy without the ATI drivers from SUSE. I just wish they would update their packages for 9.2 Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.2 Kernel 2.6.8 KDE 3.3.0 Kmail 1.7.1 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 4:14pm up 22:29, 4 users, load average: 2.68, 2.55, 2.41 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Thursday 16 December 2004 10:15 am, Mike wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 06:24, BandiPat wrote:
Why would you want to install the ATI driver? The 9200 is well supported using the radeon module in the kernel and with sax2. You also may want to update to the X.org drivers from SuSE's mirrors, if you are still running XFree86 files. Don't forget to update your sax2 files as well. Those will be needed to get the best setup from your new Xorg files. All those should be located close to where you got the ATI drivers.
I'm running the 9200 myself and everything sets up nicely without the ATI drivers installed.
Have you tried some of the OpenGL screensavers? Specifically Euphoria. Mine is very jumpy without the ATI drivers from SUSE. I just wish they would update their packages for 9.2
Mike ===========
Yes, I have Mike, in fact, I'm running that screensaver now! Most of the ones I run are the OpenGL savers and have not experienced any problems using the included radeon module and setup SuSE provides by default. From using the ATI driver in the past, you do have to be sure to completely remove what you've installed, if you plan to use the default radeon module. Mixing could be a problem if remnants are left. regards, Lee
On Thursday 16 December 2004 16:47, BandiPat wrote:
Have you tried some of the OpenGL screensavers? Specifically Euphoria. Mine is very jumpy without the ATI drivers from SUSE. I just wish they would update their packages for 9.2
Mike
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Yes, I have Mike, in fact, I'm running that screensaver now! Most of the ones I run are the OpenGL savers and have not experienced any problems using the included radeon module and setup SuSE provides by default. From using the ATI driver in the past, you do have to be sure to completely remove what you've installed, if you plan to use the default radeon module. Mixing could be a problem if remnants are left.
Brand new install on a brand new HD. Euphoria just jumps from one to another. It's not smooth like using the ATI drivers that were available for 9.1. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.2 Kernel 2.6.8 KDE 3.3.0 Kmail 1.7.1 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 7:15pm up 1 day 1:30, 4 users, load average: 2.62, 3.30, 3.40
On Thursday 16 December 2004 16:47, BandiPat wrote:
Have you tried some of the OpenGL screensavers? Specifically Euphoria. Mine is very jumpy without the ATI drivers from SUSE. I just wish they would update their packages for 9.2
Mike
===========
Yes, I have Mike, in fact, I'm running that screensaver now! Most of the ones I run are the OpenGL savers and have not experienced any problems using the included radeon module and setup SuSE provides by default. From using the ATI driver in the past, you do have to be sure to completely remove what you've installed, if you plan to use the default radeon module. Mixing could be a problem if remnants are left.
Brand new install on a brand new HD. Euphoria just jumps from one to another. It's not smooth like using the ATI drivers that were available for 9.1.
Mike ======== Then it sounds like you don't have 3d activated. What is the result of "glxinfo" in a shell? Do you see Direct Rendering=yes? What kind of results do you get with glxgears? Can you play Tuxracer? My card is
On Thursday 16 December 2004 01:16 pm, Mike wrote: the 9200SE 128mb agp and works smoothly. Lee -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!"
On Thursday 16 December 2004 20:28, BandiPat wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 01:16 pm, Mike wrote:
Then it sounds like you don't have 3d activated. What is the result of "glxinfo" in a shell? Do you see Direct Rendering=yes? What kind of results do you get with glxgears? Can you play Tuxracer? My card is the 9200SE 128mb agp and works smoothly.
Glxinfo tells me that direct rendering =no, Gears is slow. Somewhere around 195 FPS and I know it does better than that. Tuxracer tells me that 3d isn't available, and sax2 tells me that 3d isn't available for my card. It's a 9500 and recognized as radeon rv350 It hasn't been out of the machine for a while, so I can't remember the exact model. The only drivers that worked with 9.1 were the ones from SUSE. And that was with XFree 4.. OH, well, it's not that important. I don't do that much with graphics anyway. Thanks for the help though. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.2 Kernel 2.6.8 KDE 3.3.0 Kmail 1.7.1 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 9:07pm up 1 day 3:22, 4 users, load average: 2.35, 2.57, 2.94
On Thursday 16 December 2004 03:12 pm, Mike wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 20:28, BandiPat wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 01:16 pm, Mike wrote:
Then it sounds like you don't have 3d activated. What is the result of "glxinfo" in a shell? Do you see Direct Rendering=yes? What kind of results do you get with glxgears? Can you play Tuxracer? My card is the 9200SE 128mb agp and works smoothly.
Glxinfo tells me that direct rendering =no, Gears is slow. Somewhere around 195 FPS and I know it does better than that. Tuxracer tells me that 3d isn't available, and sax2 tells me that 3d isn't available for my card. It's a 9500 and recognized as radeon rv350 It hasn't been out of the machine for a while, so I can't remember the exact model. The only drivers that worked with 9.1 were the ones from SUSE. And that was with XFree 4..
OH, well, it's not that important. I don't do that much with graphics anyway. Thanks for the help though.
Mike ===========
Ok, it's as I suspected then. Try this: ctrl-alt-F1 login as root init 3 Enter sax2 (this will take you into your graphics setup) setup all graphics, resolutions, monitor, 3d, etc. Finalize, test, exit init 5 Then run your commands again and try your screensaver. regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!"
BandiPat wrote:
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 04:40 pm, john bailo wrote:
I just recently installed the ATI Radeon 9200 driver that I downloaded from the Suse ftp site.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/ATI/suse91/fglrx/3.1 4.6/
While the drivers work very good, there have been all kinds of bad side effects.
For one, I am no longer able to see DVDs playing correctly ( using ogle or mplayer ).
(1) They play in an image that is 1/4 the screen size ( here is a screenshot :
http://home.earthlink.net/~jabailo/imgs/mplayer_too_small_image.jpg )
(2) someone suggested using the "-vo sdl" switch, but at that point the DVD plays jerkily and slow. This reminded me of the way it played before I configured my DMA settings. But when I launched Control Center to configure my DMA settings, an alert popped up saying
"No compatible disk controller found".
Before installing the ATI driver I was able to configure the DMA settings.
(3) I cannot configure my mouse to be left handed. When I try to configure that via Control Center, the left/right handed radio button is greyed out. I have to run a line command, using xmodmap. But I have to run it each time I sign on ( and I dual boot, so I sign on a lot ).
=============
Why would you want to install the ATI driver? The 9200 is well supported using the radeon module in the kernel and with sax2. You also may want to update to the X.org drivers from SuSE's mirrors, if you are still running XFree86 files. Don't forget to update your sax2 files as well. Those will be needed to get the best setup from your new Xorg files. All those should be located close to where you got the ATI drivers.
I'm running the 9200 myself and everything sets up nicely without the ATI drivers installed.
regards, Lee
Right but they don't support OpenGL acceleration. And I bought this card for gaming ( UT2004, bzflag, etc ). So you have to install the Radeon 9200 drivers, because, at least with Suse 9.1, the basic driver for ATI Radeon 9200 does not support acceleration.
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