[opensuse] openSUSE Weekly News 170 is out!
We are pleased to announce: Issue 170 of openSUSE Weekly News is out! [0] In this Issue: Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose… Welcome GNOME 3! We have a present for you… Plasma Active – A Desirable User Experience Encompassing the Device Spectrum Package Calibre updated to 0.7.53 and many more ... For a list of available translations see this page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Weekly_news_translations [0] http://bit.ly/htJVHE (in PDF) [0] http://news.opensuse.org/?p=8342 (in HTML with Bento Theme) [0] http://bit.ly/dTecwY (in HTML with Susebooks Theme)) -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx.com openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I do pray it aint so: "The only really clear thing was our release cycle timing, as follows: openSUSE releases on a fixed schedule every 8 months no matter what. Therefore, all releases occur in November, July and March.” I thought they had a more sensible approach like Linus: it is released when it is ready to be released, not before and not after. If you keep as strict to the eight-month-policy you become as inflexible as those guys from Redmond. Eight-month should be a __intended target.__ Nothing more. (allthough it does't boot or worse; it is July/November/March, so ship it) If quality indicates seven or nine, that should be it. Statements like that scare the hell out of me. Brrr! hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday, April 10, 2011 01:07:01 Hans Witvliet wrote:
I do pray it aint so:
"The only really clear thing was our release cycle timing, as follows: openSUSE releases on a fixed schedule every 8 months no matter what. Therefore, all releases occur in November, July and March.”
I thought they had a more sensible approach like Linus: it is released when it is ready to be released, not before and not after.
If you keep as strict to the eight-month-policy you become as inflexible as those guys from Redmond.
Eight-month should be a __intended target.__ Nothing more. (allthough it does't boot or worse; it is July/November/March, so ship it)
If quality indicates seven or nine, that should be it.
Statements like that scare the hell out of me. Brrr!
We're targetting to release at those dates and thus freeze development to only add fixes in so that we can release at the target. But if we found out that there are critical fixes that we cannot fix, we will delay. Still, we *plan* to have this fixed cycle and so far we kept it since we had some buffer in it and no serious known problems Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 01:07 +0200, Hans Witvliet wrote:
I do pray it aint so:
"The only really clear thing was our release cycle timing, as follows: openSUSE releases on a fixed schedule every 8 months no matter what. Therefore, all releases occur in November, July and March.”
I thought they had a more sensible approach like Linus: it is released when it is ready to be released, not before and not after.
If you keep as strict to the eight-month-policy you become as inflexible as those guys from Redmond.
We have a similar periodic milestone release strategy. As a software developer, I can say that if you wait for everything to be 'ready', you never release anything. This is especially the case in a distributed effort where cat herding skill comes in to play. Having set dates also forces you to be realistic about what can be done, and to a certain extent keeps you from putting everything and the kitchen sink in since you have 'unlimited' time. The Linux kernel is perhaps unique in this and works mainly because Linus is God. Or, to be more precise, he is listened to as a deity and can exert control mere mortal project managers can only dream about. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 09/04/11 23:06, Sascha Manns wrote:
We are pleased to announce: Issue 170 of openSUSE Weekly News is out! [0] [...] For a list of available translations see this page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Weekly_news_translations
When I follow the link mentioned above I get to a page stating: 1 Current Issue 1.1 Issue 158 (Editors Draft) 1.2 Issue 157 (Translators Release) ... Something is not quite right, I guess. Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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