[opensuse] 11.4 sound system worse than 11.3?
In 11.4 with my Intel High Definition Audio HDA Intel (STAC92xx Digital), I can no longer mute the sound via the mixer. You can't even turn the sound off with the Keyboard controls built into the laptop. The 11.2 sound system implements the LFE channel on this chipset. The Low Frequency Effects channel really does add a lot to the sound quality but neither the master Volume control or the Mute button controls the LFE channel. If you use LFE channel at all, you can't mute it or control volume in the normal way. So when you want to mute sound, you have to open the Kmix mixer and click two mute buttons. (The Alsa Mixer can't control the LFE channel at all). Anyone have a work around other than killing off the LFE channel? And where did the trebble / Base settings go in Kmix? This thing has taken a real step backwards in the last release. -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 April 2011 03:43:21 jsa wrote:
In 11.4 with my Intel High Definition Audio HDA Intel (STAC92xx Digital), I can no longer mute the sound via the mixer. You can't even turn the sound off with the Keyboard controls built into the laptop.
The 11.2 sound system implements the LFE channel on this chipset. The Low Frequency Effects channel really does add a lot to the sound quality but neither the master Volume control or the Mute button controls the LFE channel. If you use LFE channel at all, you can't mute it or control volume in the normal way.
So when you want to mute sound, you have to open the Kmix mixer and click two mute buttons. (The Alsa Mixer can't control the LFE channel at all).
Anyone have a work around other than killing off the LFE channel? And where did the trebble / Base settings go in Kmix? This thing has taken a real step backwards in the last release.
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did. If this annoys you, you can erase pulseaudio entirely and run with alsa. That would be exactly as the same as in 11.3 See here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 pulseaudio is the future, so in the next openSUSE version there will be surely better integrated. BTW, a lot of this integration is KDE's business, not only openSUSE's. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
Which brings me back to the question: Why does Opensuse include software which is not ready? Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 April 2011 12:53:09 Karl Sinn wrote:
Hi,
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
Which brings me back to the question: Why does Opensuse include software which is not ready?
You have to start somewhere.. or software will never be ready :) even worse, openSUSE becomes Debian :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Which brings me back to the question: Why does Opensuse include software which is not ready?
You have to start somewhere.. or software will never be ready :) even worse, openSUSE becomes Debian :)
yes, but crucial things like desktops or sound systems.... you can easily add them in addition so people can choose wheter they want to run the new not ready or the old stable instead of adding them as default for everybody. Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 04/11/2011 11:53 AM, Karl Sinn wrote:
Hi,
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
Which brings me back to the question: Why does Opensuse include software which is not ready?
Maybe not many people try packages during milestone, rc phases and report back via bugzilla. Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
Which brings me back to the question: Why does Opensuse include software which is not ready?
Maybe not many people try packages during milestone, rc phases and report back via bugzilla.
yes, maybe... I have tried a few times to file bug reports during the milestone phases... the bugs I filed were rarely (to not say never ;) ) solved for the release version. Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:37, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
I am actually finding - at least with the sound requirements I have - that PulseAudio is finally working nicely in openSUSE. PulseAudio has been around for a few years now, and it really has been a disaster in the past... now though, with the KDE integration it's a LOT better. It's pretty simple to go into the Sound config and set sound categories to use specific sound devices (eg Skype to use the USB Headset). Try that in Ubuntu and you'll learn some new swear words (ie you cannot in a default install, you have to add a very broken unintuitive PA device tool).
If this annoys you, you can erase pulseaudio entirely and run with alsa. That would be exactly as the same as in 11.3
See here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372
ALSA still works too, and is, for now, still a valid option... it does require a small measure of work to set up (ie remove PA, install ALSA). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Quoting Silviu Marin-Caea
On Monday 11 April 2011 03:43:21 jsa wrote:
In 11.4 with my Intel High Definition Audio HDA Intel (STAC92xx Digital), I can no longer mute the sound via the mixer. You can't even turn the sound off with the Keyboard controls built into the laptop.
The 11.2 sound system implements the LFE channel on this chipset. The Low Frequency Effects channel really does add a lot to the sound quality but neither the master Volume control or the Mute button controls the LFE channel. If you use LFE channel at all, you can't mute it or control volume in the normal way.
So when you want to mute sound, you have to open the Kmix mixer and click two mute buttons. (The Alsa Mixer can't control the LFE channel at all).
Anyone have a work around other than killing off the LFE channel? And where did the trebble / Base settings go in Kmix? This thing has taken a real step backwards in the last release.
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
If this annoys you, you can erase pulseaudio entirely and run with alsa. That would be exactly as the same as in 11.3
See here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372
pulseaudio is the future, so in the next openSUSE version there will be surely better integrated. BTW, a lot of this integration is KDE's business, not only openSUSE's. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
If the switch to pulse audio responsible for why I can no longer use the keyboard volume controls on my HP Pavilion DV7-2230sa? also i no longer have the wifi enable / dissable button on the keyboard, which package is the culprit for that one? Thanks Stuart -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/11/2011 4:06 AM, Stuart Tanner wrote:
If the switch to pulse audio responsible for why I can no longer use the keyboard volume controls on my HP Pavilion DV7-2230sa? also i no longer have the wifi enable / dissable button on the keyboard, which package is the culprit for that one?
Thanks Stuart
I don't think you can lay both those babies at Pulse Audio's door step. I think both of those are symptoms of the same thing. Something not happy with your keyboard. They both happened to work on my Dell, along with screen brightness functions. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/11/2011 2:37 AM, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
In 11.4 pulseaudio is the default sound system. It's a first, so it's not perfect, it does not integrate that well with the rest of the sound utils as alsa did.
If this annoys you, you can erase pulseaudio entirely and run with alsa. That would be exactly as the same as in 11.3
I was aware of that, and uninstalled PA first thing. still no joy on this issue. I might follow up on your post in another thread about digital channels, as these don't work either. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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