I've looked all over Suse and Novell's web site for the openxchange server. Is it still in existence? And does any one have a link? Or is not it now www.open-xchange.org )Open-Xchange ?
I've looked all over Suse and Novell's web site for the openxchange server. Is it still in existence? And does any one have a link? Or is not it now www.open-xchange.org )Open-Xchange ?
ISTR that this was dropped as a product quite some time ago although it continued as an OSS project. Perhaps it's died?
Note that Novell also stopped providing paid-for hackers for its Hula[1] project (which they formed about 20 months ago by effectively open sourcing NetMail). This will also remain as an OSS project and hopefully some people will take up the development work.
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 22:44, James Ogley wrote:
I've looked all over Suse and Novell's web site for the openxchange server. Is it still in existence? And does any one have a link? Or is not it now www.open-xchange.org )Open-Xchange ?
ISTR that this was dropped as a product quite some time ago although it continued as an OSS project. Perhaps it's died?
Note that Novell also stopped providing paid-for hackers for its Hula[1] project (which they formed about 20 months ago by effectively open sourcing NetMail). This will also remain as an OSS project and hopefully some people will take up the development work.
I saw the Novell announcement of the end of Hula support.
http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/hula-general/2006-November/002084.html
At first I wondered if it had something to do with the MS<>Novell deal. However, upon reflection, I realized that hula was a loooong way from reality and not the leader in the OSS collaboration server market.
I'm curious if Novell is going to now be:
1. focusing on Evolution as the next collaboration client
2. shying away from any "Exchange Killer" for Linux, simply because it "can't work" or because they don't want to make MS mad.
3. begin porting the (supposedly) better GroupWise to SUSE
4. purchase Zimbra (http://www.zimbra.com/) or other OSS platform tool.
In any case, I'd love to get away from Exchange. It would be nice to have a SUSE Exchange client I could use and like. (I'm still on Exchange 5.5 so can't use Evolution ATM.)
Oh, and I just found out that my retirement association is actually using eDirectory instead of Active Directory. Good for them!
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 05:18 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
In any case, I'd love to get away from Exchange. It would be nice to have a SUSE Exchange client I could use and like. (I'm still on Exchange 5.5 so can't use Evolution ATM.)
Kai, have a look at Scalix. It's not opensource (I think it is the former HP Openmail or something like that), but it runs quite nicely on SUSE. It's quite easy to install, there is an Outlook and Evolution plugin, a very very nice AJAX based web interface and administration console, and a fair bit of howtos and other docs on their website and in the forums.
Hans
On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:08, Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 05:18 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
In any case, I'd love to get away from Exchange. It would be nice to have a SUSE Exchange client I could use and like. (I'm still on Exchange 5.5 so can't use Evolution ATM.)
Kai, have a look at Scalix. It's not opensource (I think it is the former HP Openmail or something like that), but it runs quite nicely on SUSE. It's quite easy to install, there is an Outlook and Evolution plugin, a very very nice AJAX based web interface and administration console, and a fair bit of howtos and other docs on their website and in the forums.
Hans
Ahh, not quite what I had in mind. They do look very nice, however, they are a server and a client. They don't - as far as I can see - have an Exchange client.
I'll keep them in mind!
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 15:30 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:08, Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 05:18 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
In any case, I'd love to get away from Exchange. It would be nice to have a SUSE Exchange client I could use and like. (I'm still on Exchange 5.5 so can't use Evolution ATM.)
Kai, have a look at Scalix. It's not opensource (I think it is the former HP Openmail or something like that), but it runs quite nicely on SUSE. It's quite easy to install, there is an Outlook and Evolution plugin, a very very nice AJAX based web interface and administration console, and a fair bit of howtos and other docs on their website and in the forums.
Hans
Ahh, not quite what I had in mind. They do look very nice, however, they are a server and a client. They don't - as far as I can see - have an Exchange client.
Kai, you said two things: 1) that you want to get away from exchange, and 2) that you're looking for an exchange 5.5 client.
I was responding to 1.
Hans
On Friday 01 December 2006 09:10, Hans du Plooy wrote:
Ahh, not quite what I had in mind. They do look very nice, however, they are a server and a client. They don't - as far as I can see - have an Exchange client.
Kai, you said two things: 1) that you want to get away from exchange, and 2) that you're looking for an exchange 5.5 client.
I was responding to 1.
Ahh. Understood.
Unfortunately, I'm a peon in an organization with 96,000 employees. I'll speak my voice, but it will be awhile before I can get enough clout to replace Exchange.
I'll keep your post in mind, however.
Thanks!
On 11/29/06, Kai Ponte kai@perfectreign.com wrote:
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- begin porting the (supposedly) better GroupWise to >SUSE
GroupWise is fully ported to linux, and has been for some time.
I think it has a very strong enterprise offering.
The linux client is not quite feature complete with the windows client, but the web client is very nice, and the next release is supposed to offer "feature complete" clients on all platforms: web, windows, mac, linux
Additionally, a product manager for GroupWise just recently posted the following:
"Our strategy is to partner with a leading vendor in the team workspace/real-time collaboration area to provide a full-featured SharePoint alternative that will fit in well with Novell's larger open source, Linux strategy. The solution will be available as a standalone product as well as an add-on to the Novell Open Workgroup Suite. The feature set will include document/content management, team calendars/tasks, discussion forums, wikis, blogs, search, workflow, web conferencing, application sharing, IM, etc.
.... we're very close to having a deal finalized with the partner, but we can't announce anything official until it is completed. Once the deal is finalized, we can announce further details such as product availability, pricing, etc. "
Apparently GroupWise is to plug in to this, or this is to be built around groupwise to some extent ... all that I am not clear about. But the future may be looking up in the collaboration space, as far as alternatives to Exchange go.
Peter
On Thursday 30 November 2006 16:51, Peter Van Lone wrote:
On 11/29/06, Kai Ponte kai@perfectreign.com wrote:
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- begin porting the (supposedly) better GroupWise to >SUSE
GroupWise is fully ported to linux, and has been for some time.
Could have fooled me. I couldn't find it anywhere. I was looking for screenshots of the client and wasn't able to see them.
I think it has a very strong enterprise offering.
The linux client is not quite feature complete with the windows client, but the web client is very nice, and the next release is supposed to offer "feature complete" clients on all platforms: web, windows, mac, linux
Very nice! Thanks.
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feature set will include document/content management, team calendars/tasks, discussion forums, wikis, blogs, search, workflow, web conferencing, application sharing, IM, etc.
/me drools
Thanks for the post.
On 11/30/06, Kai Ponte kai@perfectreign.com wrote:
Could have fooled me. I couldn't find it anywhere. I was looking for screenshots of the client and wasn't able to see them.
Each client guide has an overview section with screen shots of the clients. The win client is the nicest right now, with the newest "look".
The overview section explains about the client and the features on the screen. You can access the user guides at:
www.novell.com/documentation/gw7
Some other potentially interesting links:
http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/ http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/sysreqs.html http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/brainstorm_training/index.html http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/features.html http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/migrate_tolinux.html
Peter
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 07:18, Kai Ponte wrote:
In any case, I'd love to get away from Exchange. It would be nice to have a SUSE Exchange client I could use and like. (I'm still on Exchange 5.5 so can't use Evolution ATM.)
Kai,
Have a look at Evolution Brutus, it might do what you need it to. http://www.omesc.com/
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 12:35:52AM -0500, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
I've looked all over Suse and Novell's web site for the openxchange server. Is it still in existence? And does any one have a link? Or is not it now www.open-xchange.org )Open-Xchange ?
We don't sell it anymore, the old SLOX 4 is still in maintenance until next year however.
The functional component is sold by Open-Xchange now, as above website.
Ciao, Marcus
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