[opensuse] What reads a pdf that contains forms?
All, There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it? http://www.txcourts.gov/media/515780/cv_ds.pdf -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-23 20:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have.
Then get it... seriously. :-( That file of yours I think contains code that checks the reader. If it is not adobe, it displays a help text instead. I will try later a Windows reader I run under wine, but it is on another computer. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWxNKwACgkQja8UbcUWM1xVxgD/aCrKRUJEUnCEfH59bzWExQER 1TJDobdX8ROWciaKFNIA/R31gnk0/k+N82p+ZoCbpPBNhO3qr0yeSKxxzhGex+ch =AfN9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 01:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-23 20:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. Then get it... seriously. :-(
That file of yours I think contains code that checks the reader. If it is not adobe, it displays a help text instead.
I will try later a Windows reader I run under wine, but it is on another computer.
Thanks Carlos, This is a terrible situation. No acrobat for linux and nothing known to handle the forms that are now required to be electronically filed? That just doesn't seem right. Surely something can read it. Oh well... Let me know if your reader works. I'll see if I can get virtualbox going .... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-23 20:55, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 01:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks Carlos,
This is a terrible situation. No acrobat for linux and nothing known to handle the forms that are now required to be electronically filed? That just doesn't seem right. Surely something can read it. Oh well... Let me know if your reader works. I'll see if I can get virtualbox going
I have acrobat for Linux, so can you. It is not maintained anymore, but it works. I have it jailed with apparmour, and I only use it with files I trust. I was going to try Foxit, the one that John King tried and works. I will compare with acroread in some moments. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWxZGgACgkQja8UbcUWM1xCwgD+MBa87q1afdj+KJNAEvaG5EeK XIYvAM1BxvEhnCsY6iMA/1TacRvODZQljbrFwHLONtZD7+FkfRILW4RAC0lfal9+ =9n0P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 06:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-24 00:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I will compare with acroread in some moments. I tried, with version 6.1.1, and it works, yes.
Where can I get the latest (most recent before dropping support) version of Acroread? In older versions it was in non-oss -- any place to get a more recent version? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-24 17:48, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-24 00:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I will compare with acroread in some moments. I tried, with version 6.1.1, and it works, yes.
Where can I get the latest (most recent before dropping support) version of Acroread? In older versions it was in non-oss -- any place to get a more recent version?
From the 12.3 non-oss update repository. Version 9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm. I made a local copy of it :-) That's the latest, as they (adobe) stopped supporting Linux :-/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 07/24/2015 09:37 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-24 17:48, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-24 00:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I will compare with acroread in some moments. I tried, with version 6.1.1, and it works, yes. Where can I get the latest (most recent before dropping support) version of Acroread? In older versions it was in non-oss -- any place to get a more recent version? From the 12.3 non-oss update repository. Version 9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm. I made a local copy of it :-)
I've got a local copy too. I'm just careful to use it as a last resort. But even this version doesn't handle digital signatures with keys from Smart Cards, so I have to keep Windows around in a Virtualbox sandbox. It works okay and can access the Linux filesystem "share" for data exchange. I use it to run my Canon multifunction printer/scanner and Epson V600 Photo scanner too. I'd never buy another Canon product... One potential problem with acroread is that it's a 32-bit program. I've had issues with it on XFS filesystems larger than 2-TB. There's a way to make XFS filesystems where the inode pointers are all grouped in 32-bit space, but there are tradeoffs as I understand it. openSuSE defaults to not building XFS in a 32-bit friendly fashion. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-24 19:18, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 07/24/2015 09:37 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
From the 12.3 non-oss update repository. Version 9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm. I made a local copy of it :-)
I've got a local copy too. I'm just careful to use it as a last resort.
I use apparmour to make sure it doesn't access out of bounds.
But even this version doesn't handle digital signatures with keys from Smart Cards, so I have to keep Windows around in a Virtualbox sandbox. It works okay and can access the Linux filesystem "share" for data exchange. I use it to run my Canon multifunction printer/scanner and Epson V600 Photo scanner too. I'd never buy another Canon product...
Oh. I don't have the hardware to read cards, so I didn't notice. (Same about Canon here)
One potential problem with acroread is that it's a 32-bit program. I've had issues with it on XFS filesystems larger than 2-TB. There's a way to make XFS filesystems where the inode pointers are all grouped in 32-bit space, but there are tradeoffs as I understand it. openSuSE defaults to not building XFS in a 32-bit friendly fashion.
You are right. But I don't have any partition here that big. At worst, just place the PDFs it must read in a smaller partition. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 7/23/2015 2:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2015-07-23 20:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have.
Then get it... seriously. :-(
I don't think there is that option, if using LINUX. Maybe via WINE. --doug
That file of yours I think contains code that checks the reader. If it is not adobe, it displays a help text instead.
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On 2015-07-24 01:23, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I don't think there is that option, if using LINUX.
Yes, there is. Version 9, which is not maintained.
Maybe via WINE.
I did not succeed with it, but I believe some people did. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Le 24/07/2015 01:31, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
I did not succeed with it, but I believe some people did.
there are versions of playonlinux with parched firefox to have modern flash or acrobat, but it's not very friendly. Sometime a double boot system is the simpler solution... jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-24 07:29, jdd wrote:
Le 24/07/2015 01:31, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
I did not succeed with it, but I believe some people did.
there are versions of playonlinux with parched firefox to have modern flash or acrobat, but it's not very friendly. Sometime a double boot system is the simpler solution...
It wouldn't be for me. Boot Windows to operate with a document, then I loose access to my files and data which is in Linux, which I have to boot to read. What, boot every second to read something, then Windows to type it in the form? Not feasible. If acrobat X can be run under Wine, that would be very good. If not, on a virtualized Windows, but it requires a license. An alternative is on a virtualized android. It does run, albeit uncomfortably. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWyKv4ACgkQja8UbcUWM1xEIwD/dB62HlzPgwec0niPVcyVPIWh qGwXZuzA1IhSN2sKMlYBAJLkF2llP3ieajDiF1xk1bAD1ZtHxH9AhHeKlfnOBkRt =cyBJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/07/2015 14:09, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
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On 2015-07-24 07:29, jdd wrote:
double boot system is the simpler solution...
It wouldn't be for me.
sometime ago I had software (tom tom, I guess, not sure) that didn't run on virtualized environment. I also ha specialized software that do need the full power of the hardware, but the openSUSE equivalent now runs well enough
If acrobat X can be run under Wine
AFAIK it don't. If it do I would like it , that would be very good. If not,
on a virtualized Windows, but it requires a license.
officially :-) An alternative is
on a virtualized android. It does run, albeit uncomfortably.
any link o that? I have some applications I would like to test, thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-24 14:29, jdd wrote:
Le 24/07/2015 14:09, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
sometime ago I had software (tom tom, I guess, not sure) that didn't run on virtualized environment. I also ha specialized software that do need the full power of the hardware, but the openSUSE equivalent now runs well enough
Yes, this happened with tomtom updates. I lost that piece of hardware, and the new one used Flash in a browser, plus a driver or something. No way you can update the thing from Linux.
If acrobat X can be run under Wine
AFAIK it don't. If it do I would like it
But some one said it was starting to work. For instance: +++................... Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:07:55 +0100 From: C <...@opensuse.org> To: oS-en <opensuse@opensuse.org> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Okular upgrade necessary? ...................++-
, that would be very good. If not, on a virtualized Windows, but it requires a license.
officially :-)
Oh, absolutely... But W7 is harder to run unofficially.
An alternative is on a virtualized android. It does run, albeit uncomfortably.
any link o that? I have some applications I would like to test, thanks
Not this instant... I did it, we talked about it on a thread here or in the forums. I did it from scratch, but Jim Henderson posted an interesting link to a ready made image. I couldn't find a link to the post, I must have it on another machine. I'll try to remember and look it up later :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWyNPwACgkQja8UbcUWM1yq0wD/crxX04A1lZbW+gV1kkAZobQk XVqovENx8iMur99szrsBAI6ba73wqpy+5rKd590nRvsekZeRnPrxdw4ybyKoeEaM =xDpu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
- please excuse me Carlos : i hesitate to make any remark being in total ignorance : . . . just wondered if perhaps there is some method to use LibreOffice to export the pdf to an image file format , that could then be edited , and finally re-exported to pdf format again ........... regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-24 15:08, ellanios82 wrote:
- please excuse me Carlos : i hesitate to make any remark being in total ignorance :
. . . just wondered if perhaps there is some method to use LibreOffice to export the pdf to an image file format , that could then be edited , and finally re-exported to pdf format again
Well, I don't know... /If/ LO can open the PDF correctly, then it may be edited, yes. And LO may then export to PDF again. I doubt about the results, though. If you want to handle an image, then open the PDF in gimp instead. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWyRHUACgkQja8UbcUWM1x2sgEAjwh6yDu+Vd7mkMqCNdi7A64i yuxguXzZx3fceOuL3XkA/RS74AGH7Tk6xL/DSJk/jVT7D2qZ1nIBB9Zsh+98lOuv =1Nr2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 08:08 AM, ellanios82 wrote:
. . . just wondered if perhaps there is some method to use LibreOffice to export the pdf to an image file format , that could then be edited , and finally re-exported to pdf format again
Nope - neither openoffice or libreoffice will read/import the pdf at issue. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-24 14:52, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-24 14:29, jdd wrote:
'WineHQ - Adobe Reader 11.x' (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=27093) 'WineHQ - Adobe Reader 10.x' (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22577) 'Wine 1.5.25 Fixes Adobe Reader XI Installation' (http://tinyurl.com/bzxxo24) But those who tried said (in 2013) that it crashed with forms.
An alternative is on a virtualized android. It does run, albeit uncomfortably.
any link o that? I have some applications I would like to test, thanks
Not this instant... I did it, we talked about it on a thread here or in the forums. I did it from scratch, but Jim Henderson posted an interesting link to a ready made image. I couldn't find a link to the post, I must have it on another machine.
I'll try to remember and look it up later :-)
We talked about it here:
View this thread: <https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/487656-PDF-Document-XFA-forms-are-unsupported!> View this thread: <http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=491849>
Jim mentioned "AndroVM". It comes as images for use on virtualbox or vmware. http://androvm.org/blog/ dayfinger: I haven't tried Android on PC myself, but it seems like it should work by now. My search results seem to indicate that there have been issues with that up to now, but that it has been solved. The first link is for loading Android "on the iron", the other is for a vm (virtualbox): 'Hybrid hijinks: How to install Android on your PC | PCWorld' (http://tinyurl.com/kuj7y56) 'How to Install Android in VirtualBox' (http://www.howtogeek.com/164570/how-to-install-android-in-virtualbox/) ---- And it worked. However, using acroread there is a pain, because it does not respond to the keyboard. You have to use the mouse as the finger in a tablet, and it just is not the same, far from it. We also talked about it on the mail list somewhere. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Le 24/07/2015 19:07, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
Jim mentioned "AndroVM". It comes as images for use on virtualbox or vmware. http://androvm.org/blog/
404, but google gives this: http://alternativeto.net/software/androvm/ thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:20, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@...> wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
http: //www.txcourts.gov/media/515780/cv_ds.pdf
have you tried "MuPDF" yet ? Works with pdfs, where most other readers have trouble (inkl. Javascripts and any fill-in forms I've used so far.) Sorry, not at my usual workplace, can't test myself fpr this special pdf. http://software.opensuse.org/package/mupdf (There is also a mupdf backend for okular ...) - Yamaban -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 02:02 PM, Yamaban wrote:
have you tried "MuPDF" yet ? Works with pdfs, where most other readers have trouble (inkl. Javascripts and any fill-in forms I've used so far.)
Yes, tried mupdf (doesn't work) already had it installed. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 02:09 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Yes, tried mupdf (doesn't work) already had it installed.
Opened a bug/feature request at mupdf (ghostscript) regarding the reading of this form. Hopefully we can get a linux solution in the future: http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696108 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/07/15 19:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
I use Foxit Reader (version 7.0.6 presently installed) under Wine for forms, on opensuse 13.1. As far as I can tell, it reads your form without a problem. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 02:51 PM, John King wrote:
On 23/07/15 19:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
I use Foxit Reader (version 7.0.6 presently installed) under Wine for forms, on opensuse 13.1. As far as I can tell, it reads your form without a problem.
John
That's good info John. Thanks. I've bailed and opened virtualbox (dammit) and have adobe acrobat up. (of course screaming at me to download yet another version...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 20:51 +0100, John King wrote:
On 23/07/15 19:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
All, There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
http://www.txcourts.gov/media/515780/cv_ds.pd I use Foxit Reader (version 7.0.6 presently installed) under Wine for forms, on opensuse 13.1. As far as I can tell, it reads your form without a problem.
I use forms in GNOME's Document Viewer [Evince] all the time, they work fine. This PDF is something else, my guess is that it contains some type of Javascript action. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awilliam@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-24 12:19, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
I use forms in GNOME's Document Viewer [Evince] all the time, they work fine. This PDF is something else, my guess is that it contains some type of Javascript action.
Many forms do so, but can be ignored. Not this one. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWyK1oACgkQja8UbcUWM1xD/wD/YUvGsT6BrltUHsW3pPxKPbTY UE2KL2Z4dF6bic9AD3kA/2mxY5hEZ8JkJ+LIjCagNPPnG7w7wsd7dHUkWaD6RcPj =uoE5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [07-23-15 14:21]:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/792447-3-alternatives-to-th... indicates evince will read them. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-23 22:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
indicates evince will read them.
It doesn't. I tried already. It doesn't work because evince doesn't support javascript. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWxYdoACgkQja8UbcUWM1wKpAD+Ivym6CKJuHrqhUxuEf0+fjxA 5MZfgen+m5PtNp5wQz8A/3sZm87rlCDlqVjoGxEx67IJjDWY8gE24bxuOhB7oBSi =IJk8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 01:20 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
David: I have 13.1 and wine, tried running foxit there and no go. Opened VB Win7 and installed Foxit there and your form opened just fine, no prob. Good luck. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2015 06:05 PM, Stevens wrote:
David:
I have 13.1 and wine, tried running foxit there and no go. Opened VB Win7 and installed Foxit there and your form opened just fine, no prob. Good luck.
Thank you Fred. I ended up using virtualbox and acrobat reader 8. (everything from 8 up will read the form, though all will dishonestly suggest you update to 10 to be able to save the form info -- suggesting that you can actually save form data in acrobat reader 10) That is a false suggestion, you cannot save in 10 without buying (or agreeing to a 30 day free-trial) of 10_Extensions which is what actually allows saving form data and will work with any version of reader from 8 up) Got to love the honest commercial vendors.... I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/07/15 17:57, David C. Rankin wrote:
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
The repo for 12.3 is still online, and contains this package: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/suse/i586/acrore... I'm not aware of any version more recent than that for Linux. But if there is one, I'm interested as well ;-) HTH Cheers. Bye. Ph. A. -- *Philippe Andersson* Unix System Administrator IBA Particle Therapy | Tel: +32-10-475.983 Fax: +32-10-487.707 eMail: pan@iba-group.com <http://www.iba-worldwide.com>
Hi, On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Philippe Andersson <pan@iba-group.com> wrote:
On 24/07/15 17:57, David C. Rankin wrote:
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
The repo for 12.3 is still online, and contains this package:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/suse/i586/acrore...
I'm not aware of any version more recent than that for Linux. But if there is one, I'm interested as well ;-)
There are a number of packages in obs (v9.5.5), e.g. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home%3Adoiggl&package=acroread But I does not read David's file on my OS13.1, just shows this: Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html. For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html. Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 11:34 AM, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html. For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
Oh Bummer... That's kinda the icing on that cake then. I was all set to try and install the 12.3 version. I had retrieved the latest version from adobe: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and the nosrc.rpm from 12.3 (along with the other updates): acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm acroread-9.5.5-8.1.nosrc.rpm Surely, if 8.0 can read the forms on Windows, then 9.5 should be able to read them on Linux? Is it some javascript issue that needs .service file integration to work with systemd? I would still like to make an attempt to build/install the latest version on 13.1 to see if it would work. Does anyone have any experience putting the pieces together and tweaking the nosrc.rpm (or hacking after install) to make sure the systemd integration is OK? I haven't yet tried that voodoo with a all binary package (although I'm comfortable writing .service files for source builds) And what about the i586 install on x86_64? Don't we need some type of wrapper to point to the correct libs? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 12:58 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/24/2015 11:34 AM, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html. For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
Oh Bummer... That's kinda the icing on that cake then. I was all set to try and install the 12.3 version. I had retrieved the latest version from adobe:
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.tar.bz2
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm
and the nosrc.rpm from 12.3 (along with the other updates):
acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm acroread-9.5.5-8.1.nosrc.rpm
Surely, if 8.0 can read the forms on Windows, then 9.5 should be able to read them on Linux? Is it some javascript issue that needs .service file integration to work with systemd?
I would still like to make an attempt to build/install the latest version on 13.1 to see if it would work.
Does anyone have any experience putting the pieces together and tweaking the nosrc.rpm (or hacking after install) to make sure the systemd integration is OK? I haven't yet tried that voodoo with a all binary package (although I'm comfortable writing .service files for source builds)
And what about the i586 install on x86_64? Don't we need some type of wrapper to point to the correct libs?
I think if you just download the rpm and use zypper to install it the required libs should be installed as well. I installed the 9.5.5 version to long ago to remember (short term memory lose becomes long term given enough time) HTH -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> wrote:
On 07/24/2015 12:58 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/24/2015 11:34 AM, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html. For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html.
Oh Bummer... That's kinda the icing on that cake then. I was all set to try and install the 12.3 version. I had retrieved the latest version from adobe:
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.tar.bz2
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm
and the nosrc.rpm from 12.3 (along with the other updates):
acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm acroread-9.5.5-8.1.nosrc.rpm
Surely, if 8.0 can read the forms on Windows, then 9.5 should be able to read them on Linux? Is it some javascript issue that needs .service file integration to work with systemd?
I would still like to make an attempt to build/install the latest version on 13.1 to see if it would work.
Does anyone have any experience putting the pieces together and tweaking the nosrc.rpm (or hacking after install) to make sure the systemd integration is OK? I haven't yet tried that voodoo with a all binary package (although I'm comfortable writing .service files for source builds)
And what about the i586 install on x86_64? Don't we need some type of wrapper to point to the correct libs?
I think if you just download the rpm and use zypper to install it the required libs should be installed as well. I installed the 9.5.5 version to long ago to remember (short term memory lose becomes long term given enough time) HTH
Interesting... After instaling 9.5.5 from AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin file (it turned out I had one from 2013 on my disk) I was able to open David's file. Both from this version and from one installed from obs. Probably binary installer added something missed in rpm... -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-24 19:12, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Interesting... After instaling 9.5.5 from AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin file (it turned out I had one from 2013 on my disk) I was able to open David's file. Both from this version and from one installed from obs. Probably binary installer added something missed in rpm...
I doubt it. I have acroread installed from the old rpm in 12.3 and it opened that file just fine. Slowly. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 07/24/2015 12:12 PM, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Interesting... After instaling 9.5.5 from AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin file (it turned out I had one from 2013 on my disk) I was able to open David's file. Both from this version and from one installed from obs. Probably binary installer added something missed in rpm...
Ok, I give. How the heck do you install the .bin file? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/07/2015 20:21, David C. Rankin a écrit :
On 07/24/2015 12:12 PM, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Interesting... After instaling 9.5.5 from AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin file (it turned out I had one from 2013 on my disk) I was able to open David's file. Both from this version and from one installed from obs. Probably binary installer added something missed in rpm...
Ok,
I give. How the heck do you install the .bin file?
simply run it (after making it executable) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 01:23 PM, jdd wrote:
simply run it (after making it executable)
jdd
Thank you. I installed the .rpm instead. $ sudo zypper in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm worked fine. It is slow.. to load, but then works fine. http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/img/ss/suse/acroread_9.5.5_form.jpg Thanks to all for the help. I now need to set up a print-to-pdf to be able to print/save. What is the easiest solution? cups-print-to-pdf and run cups locally? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 01:38 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
I now need to set up a print-to-pdf to be able to print/save. What is the easiest solution? cups-print-to-pdf and run cups locally?
Short howto: Installing Acroread 9.5.5: download (or install from the remote location) ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm # zypper in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm Installing cups-pdf to provide a print-to-pdf virtual printer: # zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_13.1/printing # zypper in cups-pdf done. cups-pdf will autoconfigure the virtual-printer and the ppd that does a reasonable job (you can tweak the ppd driver in yast). Just select your printer as CUPS-PDF in whatever application, your pdfs will be output to: /var/spool/cups-pdf/$USER For convenience, you can create a soft link to home $ cd $ ln -s /var/spool/cups-pdf/$USER pdfs (or cups-pdf) whatever you preference. NOTE: on first start acroread is slow as it does whatever it does to configure itself and present the Agree with License screen. On subsequent launches it is scalding fast -- no issues. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/07/2015 20:38, David C. Rankin a écrit :
I now need to set up a print-to-pdf to be able to print/save. What is the easiest solution? cups-print-to-pdf and run cups locally?
it's by default on kde print menu jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 03:28 PM, jdd wrote:
it's by default on kde print menu
jdd
But not my kde print menu :( Good old kde3! While I get kde window decoration, all menus for acroread are gtk2. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/07/2015 22:38, David C. Rankin a écrit :
On 07/24/2015 03:28 PM, jdd wrote:
it's by default on kde print menu
jdd
But not my kde print menu :( Good old kde3!
While I get kde window decoration, all menus for acroread are gtk2.
oh, yes, I see. And you don't have a "save a copy" option... so back to the brave old days :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/07/2015 22:43, jdd a écrit :
oh, yes, I see. And you don't have a "save a copy" option... so back to the brave old days :-)
but you have a "print to file" option (print menu, bottom left) that prints a ps file, from which you can have a pdf file if necessaary jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 03:47 PM, jdd wrote:
but you have a "print to file" option (print menu, bottom left) that prints a ps file, from which you can have a pdf file if necessaary
jdd
Yes, but that results in a postscript file instead of a pdf (or heaven form PCL5, etc..) cups-pdf is definitely the way to go. (you can get fancy with the hp ColorLaserJet-8000 series postscript drivers as a backend for the virtual printer - lots of options...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 11:54 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/24/2015 03:47 PM, jdd wrote:
but you have a "print to file" option (print menu, bottom left) that prints a ps file, from which you can have a pdf file if necessaary
jdd
Yes, but that results in a postscript file instead of a pdf (or heaven form PCL5, etc..)
cups-pdf is definitely the way to go. (you can get fancy with the hp ColorLaserJet-8000 series postscript drivers as a backend for the virtual printer - lots of options...)
Am I missing something somewhere? When I go to print something, a dialog box pops up and in that are my options, which includes "Print to File" and when that is clicked I get a choice of PS or PDF and I have no specific recollection of ever having installed any cups-pdf. In fact, yast has no listing for that. Opensuse 13.1, whichever kde came with it, yada, yada, yada Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-25 16:10, Stevens wrote:
Am I missing something somewhere? When I go to print something, a dialog box pops up and in that are my options, which includes "Print to File" and when that is clicked I get a choice of PS or PDF and I have no specific recollection of ever having installed any cups-pdf. In fact, yast has no listing for that.
Opensuse 13.1, whichever kde came with it, yada, yada, yada
Did you try that from inside acroread? I'm not offered a choice of ps/pdf when printing to file. It is about using acroread, not from other program. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 07/25/2015 12:16 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-25 16:10, Stevens wrote:
Am I missing something somewhere? When I go to print something, a dialog box pops up and in that are my options, which includes "Print to File" and when that is clicked I get a choice of PS or PDF and I have no specific recollection of ever having installed any cups-pdf. In fact, yast has no listing for that.
Opensuse 13.1, whichever kde came with it, yada, yada, yada
Did you try that from inside acroread? I'm not offered a choice of ps/pdf when printing to file.
It is about using acroread, not from other program.
Carlos, that was what I was missing. I do not have acroread. Maybe it is in the VB Win7 but not in os13.1. ========================= -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-26 01:10, Stevens wrote:
Carlos, that was what I was missing. I do not have acroread. Maybe it is in the VB Win7 but not in os13.1.
It is not currently in the distribution. It disappeared during 12.3 because adobe no longer maintains it. We have commented all that in this thread previously. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlW0G2kACgkQja8UbcUWM1ywbgD8DvgEcycqZXcgKbSkt2PQFbhr KC9TXwGMXukp64Vi7DwA/17n0tR420Jno+UxcDOFYYIaXtM27PQXvAgK7SXaibiP =PPHf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-24 20:38, David C. Rankin wrote:
I now need to set up a print-to-pdf to be able to print/save. What is the easiest solution? cups-print-to-pdf and run cups locally?
I simply choose print, in acroread. At the bottom of the dialog, there is a tick box for "print to file". It allows you to input a file name. It generates a postscript file. Then, in the CLI, I use ps2pdf to convert to pdf. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWyspsACgkQja8UbcUWM1wLtwD7BqZOqUTI8q/QRkwLEf91eqLc ct+ENIDkFnkfgfDIk+MA/0JxT6FPyzTDJcyVSr+c76rYavCS802/Ixqrw70sme5P =OtTj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 04:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I simply choose print, in acroread. At the bottom of the dialog, there is a tick box for "print to file". It allows you to input a file name. It generates a postscript file. Then, in the CLI, I use ps2pdf to convert to pdf.
Yes, that works as well. I have a networked pdf-gen script that is shared by cups for anything print-to-pdf, but that only works if I'm on my lan. It basically uses that exact setup. It takes the postscript from the configured postfix ppd associated with the printer and uses ps2pdf to generate the pdfs. I didn't snap to doing the same thing locally until I saw your post. Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-24 18:58, David C. Rankin wrote:
Surely, if 8.0 can read the forms on Windows, then 9.5 should be able to read them on Linux? Is it some javascript issue that needs .service file integration to work with systemd?
It certainly works in my 13.1, but it takes loooong to load.
Does anyone have any experience putting the pieces together and tweaking the nosrc.rpm (or hacking after install) to make sure the systemd integration is OK? I haven't yet tried that voodoo with a all binary package (although I'm comfortable writing .service files for source builds)
No systemd integration needed, it is an application, not a service.
And what about the i586 install on x86_64? Don't we need some type of wrapper to point to the correct libs?
No. It always was a 32 bit application. Being an rpm, it will request any libraries it needs. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2015-07-24 18:34, Mark Goldstein wrote:
But I does not read David's file on my OS13.1, just shows this:
Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to
Just wait longer. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 07/24/2015 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:05 PM, Stevens wrote:
David:
I have 13.1 and wine, tried running foxit there and no go. Opened VB Win7 and installed Foxit there and your form opened just fine, no prob. Good luck.
Thank you Fred.
I ended up using virtualbox and acrobat reader 8. (everything from 8 up will read the form, though all will dishonestly suggest you update to 10 to be able to save the form info -- suggesting that you can actually save form data in acrobat reader 10)
That is a false suggestion, you cannot save in 10 without buying (or agreeing to a 30 day free-trial) of 10_Extensions which is what actually allows saving form data and will work with any version of reader from 8 up) Got to love the honest commercial vendors....
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
http://m.icewalkers.com/download/adobe-reader/9.5.5/17873/download.html Should work. It's I586 -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 12:36 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 07/24/2015 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:05 PM, Stevens wrote:
David:
I have 13.1 and wine, tried running foxit there and no go. Opened VB Win7 and installed Foxit there and your form opened just fine, no prob. Good luck.
Thank you Fred.
I ended up using virtualbox and acrobat reader 8. (everything from 8 up will read the form, though all will dishonestly suggest you update to 10 to be able to save the form info -- suggesting that you can actually save form data in acrobat reader 10)
That is a false suggestion, you cannot save in 10 without buying (or agreeing to a 30 day free-trial) of 10_Extensions which is what actually allows saving form data and will work with any version of reader from 8 up) Got to love the honest commercial vendors....
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
http://m.icewalkers.com/download/adobe-reader/9.5.5/17873/download.html
Should work. It's I586
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998
On 07/24/2015 11:44 AM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 07/24/2015 12:36 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 07/24/2015 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:05 PM, Stevens wrote:
David:
I have 13.1 and wine, tried running foxit there and no go. Opened VB Win7 and installed Foxit there and your form opened just fine, no prob. Good luck.
Thank you Fred.
I ended up using virtualbox and acrobat reader 8. (everything from 8 up will read the form, though all will dishonestly suggest you update to 10 to be able to save the form info -- suggesting that you can actually save form data in acrobat reader 10)
That is a false suggestion, you cannot save in 10 without buying (or agreeing to a 30 day free-trial) of 10_Extensions which is what actually allows saving form data and will work with any version of reader from 8 up) Got to love the honest commercial vendors....
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
http://m.icewalkers.com/download/adobe-reader/9.5.5/17873/download.html
Should work. It's I586
You da man Ken! Now I'll see if I can duplicate your success :-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-07-24 17:57, David C. Rankin wrote:
I ended up using virtualbox and acrobat reader 8. (everything from 8 up will read the form, though all will dishonestly suggest you update to 10 to be able to save the form info -- suggesting that you can actually save form data in acrobat reader 10)
That is a false suggestion, you cannot save in 10 without buying (or agreeing to a 30 day free-trial) of 10_Extensions which is what actually allows saving form data and will work with any version of reader from 8 up) Got to love the honest commercial vendors....
With acroread 9 in Linux I can save a blank copy of a form. However, I know I have saved filled copies somehow: maybe some forms allow saving form with data, and some not. A possibility, of course, is printing to file, which can be a PDF, which is no longer a "form". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 7/24/2015 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:05 PM, Stevens wrote:
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
AFAIK, there was never a 64-bit version, so you will need to install some 32-bit libs to make that work, if you use a 64-bit os. Your os may not be happy with 32-bit libs--I don't think pclos is set up for that, for instance. ..doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 10:58 AM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 7/24/2015 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2015 06:05 PM, Stevens wrote:
I need a link to the last Linux version of Acrobat Reader. If that will work under linux, then it is the best solution for the form I trust from the courts.
AFAIK, there was never a 64-bit version, so you will need to install some 32-bit libs to make that work, if you use a 64-bit os. Your os may not be happy with 32-bit libs--I don't think pclos is set up for that, for instance.
I tried Greg's form using acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm on a 64-bit openSuSE 13.2 box. I'm able to see the form fields and to fill them in, but the form won't allow saving a filled-out form to disk. I can only print it. It will allow saving an empty form however. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2015 01:50 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I tried Greg's form using acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i586.rpm on a 64-bit openSuSE 13.2 box. I'm able to see the form fields and to fill them in, but the form won't allow saving a filled-out form to disk. I can only print it. It will allow saving an empty form however.
Regards, Lew
Lew, See my SOLVED post. You need to install cups-pdf to allow printing to pdf in order to print the completed form back to pdf: # zypper in cups-pdf The post_install routine will autoconfigure the virtual printer. All you need to do is choose CUPS-PDF as your printer and it will automatically generate your pdf in /var/spool/cups-pdf/$USER. Probably /var/spool/cups-pdf/lew in your case. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23/07/15 um 20:20 schrieb David C. Rankin:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
As some other posters said, only acroread 9.5.5 can read under Linux. acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586.rpm afair in my case. But it gives a message that one cannot save the form and that you only can print it. Why don't they use a webform? This is garbage. BR ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 25/07/15 um 14:36 schrieb MarkusGMX:
Am 23/07/15 um 20:20 schrieb David C. Rankin:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
As some other posters said, only acroread 9.5.5 can read under Linux. acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586.rpm afair in my case.
Correction: AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.tar.bz2 Afair from here ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/ BR ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-25 14:36, MarkusGMX wrote:
Why don't they use a webform? This is garbage.
PDF forms are the standard in many administrations (and it is a published, open, standard). What is a shame is that there is no capable software in Linux to handle them :-/ - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWzkNcACgkQja8UbcUWM1xUogD9GBP3jNkPtZJBhOpXhBiGC1a8 A83zO9ediiJHeEbsjrUA/22KcY6p1shJXZ+dTQGJRPN8u9Zas0KNcyU8sqInHbbT =tdvh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/25/2015 07:36 AM, MarkusGMX wrote:
All,
There are new forms the courts require that I am having trouble reading. The following is a Civil Docketing Statement for the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. The site recommends Adobe Reader, which I don't have. I've tried my old trusty kpdf (nope), the readers in FF39 (nope). What else will read it?
As some other posters said, only acroread 9.5.5 can read under Linux. acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586.rpm afair in my case.
But it gives a message that one cannot save the form and that you only can print it.
Why don't they use a webform? This is garbage.
Markus, You are 100% correct in your assessment that "this is garbage"! Not only garbage, but I'm fairly certain it violates several mandates against single source technology that results in an anticompetitive impact through implementation. Here, there is no doubt it is due to ignorance on the court's part and some intern that got the task of putting the new forms together. The clueless intern knows only windows and of acrobat reader. Much less that there may be other's on tablets that are not windows and heaven forbid still others using yet another OS. So what does the clueless intern do? He tells the justices that he can create a "real slick" acrobat form that ALL users of the reader can fill-out and print to submit allowing the court to capture the text entries electronically (it's original goal). The clueless intern had no knowledge of simple web forms, ajax or json or any inkling about how simple a true cross platform solution could actually be. Why? His tech knowledge is exhausted after demonstrating what he can do with acrobat on windows. Unfortunately, the justices have even less knowledge/expertise in this area. So with the blind leading the blind we have these god awful forms, that are anti-competitively tied to windows and a kludge that allows acrobat reader to run on mac OS. And so in the normal sequence of events in government technology, the clueless intern's acrobat form was admired and blessed by all justices responsible for overseeing the administration of the electronic filing requirements imposed by the legislature and many, many equally clueless attorneys struggle everyday to shoehorn information into the blessed awful form..... What I need to do is get my head/hands around the proper 21st century way of implementing true cross-platform forms that can serve in it's place. If somebody knows where a write up for the current consensus for proper tools to use in addition to normal POST & GET approach to create an equivalent form, I'll prepare a proposal for the administrative district judges and submit what the alternative should be. (If you know someone who is a wizard at that stuff and would like or could benefit from the accolades that flow from being able to list on his resume implementation of true cross-platform electronic form and filing solution for the courts for the State of Texas -- I need that person too.) Any good links or recommendations? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-08-01 11:39, David C. Rankin wrote:
You are 100% correct in your assessment that "this is garbage"! Not only garbage, but I'm fairly certain it violates several mandates against single source technology that results in an anticompetitive impact through implementation.
Huh. PDF, and PDF with forms, is a standard. XFA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFA And in fact, the help text of your document says that it is supported in Windows, Mac, or Linux. Which was true, but is no longer true in Linux, because Adobe abandoned. Maybe the courts could order it to come back? :-P As far as I know, if PDF+XFA is not truly supported in Linux, it is the fault of Linux.
and of acrobat reader. Much less that there may be other's on tablets
Well, there is Acrobat on Android tablets. However, your form doesn't open there.
So what does the clueless intern do? He tells the justices that he can create a "real slick" acrobat form that ALL users of the reader can fill-out and print to submit allowing the court to capture the text entries electronically (it's original goal). The clueless intern had no knowledge of simple web forms, ajax or json or any inkling about how simple a true cross platform solution could actually be.
In several countries there is a mandate to use such forms in the administration, so get used to them. I can't find the link now, but there was an effort recently where they paid an organization (in Blegium, perhaps?) to create support for them in LibreOffice. I'll post it later if I find it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Am 01/08/15 um 12:34 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2015-08-01 11:39, David C. Rankin wrote:
You are 100% correct in your assessment that "this is garbage"! Not only garbage, but I'm fairly certain it violates several mandates against single source technology that results in an anticompetitive impact through implementation.
Huh. PDF, and PDF with forms, is a standard. XFA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFA
And in fact, the help text of your document says that it is supported in Windows, Mac, or Linux. Which was true, but is no longer true in Linux, because Adobe abandoned. Maybe the courts could order it to come back? :-P
As far as I know, if PDF+XFA is not truly supported in Linux, it is the fault of Linux.
What are the developers of evince doing currently? https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince/Roadmap does not show anything like XFA. Maybe they can implement a solution? Via Crowdfunding? The problem exists for a long time now. ( https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/792447-3-alternatives-to-th... ) Also interesting: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18935 and "In 2011 the ISO Committee urged Adobe Systems to submit the XFA Specification, XML Forms Architecture (XFA), to ISO for standardization and requested Adobe Systems to stabilize the XFA specification. The Committee expressed its concerns about the stability of the XFA specification.[25]" [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFA ] I tried http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit/ but this is just old stuff which needs QT3.
and of acrobat reader. Much less that there may be other's on tablets
Well, there is Acrobat on Android tablets. However, your form doesn't open there.
:-( Which means that Adobe Acrobat itself is inconsistent.
So what does the clueless intern do? He tells the justices that he can create a "real slick" acrobat form that ALL users of the reader can fill-out and print to submit allowing the court to capture the text entries electronically (it's original goal). The clueless intern had no knowledge of simple web forms, ajax or json or any inkling about how simple a true cross platform solution could actually be.
In several countries there is a mandate to use such forms in the administration, so get used to them. I can't find the link now, but there was an effort recently where they paid an organization (in Blegium, perhaps?) to create support for them in LibreOffice. I'll post it later if I find it.
Did you find it? :-) BR ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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