On 04/26/2013 08:17 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Friday, 2013-04-26 at 07:42 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:

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Just my humble opinion - Computers are wonderful for many things but movie playing is not their forte.

There are reasons to do it. One is, provided you can rip the movie to a suitable file, that then you can display fast any point of the movie, without having to go via the menu of the DVD, and watch the movie completeley in the sequence designed by the producer. Go forward, backward, slowly, fast, capture photo, capture sequences...

Another reason can be, on laptops, that watching a movie from file uses far less battery than from the dvd.

All this is not possible with blue-rays.

Again, just my opinion. I have the ability to capture streams from any of my devises into my backup computer through a device called a "Dazzle". I can then edit and do all that other stuff you talk about. My best half is the Programming Director for a small TV station in Wichita. We regularly record and edit shows for the station. I still don't have a desire to use my computer to watch movies.

Which, by the way, I don't see any advantage over dvds... I don't have large enough displays so that I would notice a quality difference.

Blue-Ray is the only home media capable of showing full 1080p video. Show that on a BIG screen, 60 inch or better, 1080p television and Oh!My!God! It is absolutely unbelievable. It's like looking out through a big window. looks like you can just walk right in.

- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

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On 4/26/2013 9:17 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Which, by the way, I don't see any advantage over dvds... I don't have large enough displays so that I would notice a quality difference.

Fine for you, but I have both a tv and a monitor that have 1920X1080 resolution, and the difference is spectacular. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2013-04-28 at 08:06 -0400, James Knott wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Which, by the way, I don't see any advantage over dvds... I don't have large enough displays so that I would notice a quality difference.

I have a 42" 1080p TV in my living room and a 23" 1080p computer monitor, which I can also watch TV on. With both of those, I'm sitting close enough to see a difference between 720 & 1080 lines. DVDs are only 480 lines so the difference is even more noticeable. Also, many older DVDs are in 4:3 format, some in "letterbox". With those letterbox discs, you have only 360 lines resolution, which look really bad, in comparison to what you'd get with Blu-ray. Even the wide screen DVDs are recorded in 4:3 format, but with the image horizonally compressed and expanded on playback. So, with these you still lose vertical resolution. On the other hand, when I play a Blu-ray disc, I get the full 1080p picture which can look extremely sharp. There's simply no comparison between DVD and Blu-ray. Then we get to the fact that many DVDs are only stereo or even mono, compared to the 5.1 channel audio that's standard with Blu-ray.

All that corroborates what I have said: no advantage for me. >:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlF9fkIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UpjACcDkkltTmxqZ3I4XA5sx4txHqH CNoAn27RyniYjzQIbn8xk9lM/1eY94RK =cVFc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 27/04/13 06:08, michael norman wrote:

On 26/04/13 11:07, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have just installed a Blu-Ray RW drive and in anticipation of doing this today I hired a few Blu-Ray discs to view over the weekend.

However, I am most disappointed because the damn thing does not want to play ball with the BD discs :'( .

Well, at least when it comes to using vlc with them :-( . vlc won't recognise them and won't play them even though the BD drive is recognised when I insert an ordinary DVD in the unit. All other discs are recognised and playable (Sl and DL DVDs, CDs).

I know that 'developers' have been fooling around with files and dependencies which have made applications stop working until an additional file has had to be installed, eg, python-kde4 -plasma, and vlc had to have the codecs installed as a separate dependency, but what else does vlc require to be able to play Blu-Ray DVDs?!

Does anyone, please, know what is required to get vlc to play Blu-Ray discs?

Never have I had hassles with vlc - until today with Blu-Ray discs :-( .

I have BD discs sitting here to be viewed so if anybody knows how to get vlc to play them I would be most grateful.

BC

Basil

Have a look at this

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/BluRay

The problem is not VLC or "developers" fooling around it is with the blu ray format itself.

We have a blu ray player here on a dual boot 12.3/W7box. My son has a lot of blu ray discs which play using a proprietary player on W7 but not in VLC in windows (his preferred media player)

When I looked at playing blu rays in Linux I came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the hassle. You may be more persistent.

FWIW if I wanted to play blu ray discs I'd buy a standalone deck and hook that directly to my tv

Not much help to you I think

Mike

Many thanks to all who replied to my original post - and even to those who, which is the usual practice here :-) , sidetracked the seeking of a solution to the land of unnecessary discussion about irrelevant things :-) . Following all of your comments I did some reading and asking (privately), and found that while there is a piece of software readily available for Linux to start playing a Blu-Ray disc, this does not always work. And to add to the misery, in, and from, 2012 a new layer of protection[*] for BR discs was introduced called BD+. Now, this protection has been cracked but has not been made available because of legal questions. But, as we all know the old adage, "There is more than one way to skin a cat". I have heard that it is very possible to play BR discs in Linux but I have yet to do some "heavy research" to be able to do so 8-) . Until then I will have to stick with the ordinary DVDs which we all know and have loved for many years :-) . -------------------------- Oh, while I am on this subject, I bought the Blu-Ray RW drive made by Lite-On because it was the only one I could see which specifically stated that it was for *Linux*. Thought that you would like to know. And, as I found out, it is a marvellous performer - I don't know that it is working when it is working! I was a Pioneer fan until I bought this drive. -------------------------- [*] The initial protection is called AACS, and still in use, which was cracked almost as soon as it was introduced. [Why won't the greedy companies ever learn that, "What man will impose, the hackers will dispose"? (tm)]. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 KDE 4.10.2 & kernel 3.8.9-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org