Kuickshow has disappeared, yet "locate" show's it exists on my computer??
Hi, everyone. I have a mystery and would appreciate your wise counsel. I have been using kuickshow to display .tiff files. No problems until today. Now when I click on a .tif file I get a message that says: KDEInit could not launch 'kuickshow' Could not find 'kuickshow' executable So I popped in the 9.1 pro DVD and went into Yast2 (Install and remove software) and did a search for kuickshow. It said: No results. So then I opened a shell/console and typed: locate kuickshow. I got a list that included these two lines: /opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow /opt/kde3/share/apps/kuickshow In the first, a group of executables, there was no kuickshow despite it displaying as part of "locate." And in the second group of folders, there again was no kuickshow despite it being displayed by "locate." So now I'm totally confused. The executable is not on my computer despite "locate" telling me it is. And when I try to add it using the install and delete software function in Yast it doesn't even come up as available on the DVD. Yet until a few days ago kuickshow was working great. So, gurus. Where the heck do I find a solution to this odd problem? If it's of any relevance I do a Yast on-line update once or twice a week and an update of KDE and Packman files from Red-Carpet once or twice a week (most recent this morning). Thanks! Gil
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 13:42, Gil Weber wrote:
Hi, everyone. I have a mystery and would appreciate your wise counsel.
I have been using kuickshow to display .tiff files. No problems until today.
Now when I click on a .tif file I get a message that says:
KDEInit could not launch 'kuickshow' Could not find 'kuickshow' executable
So I popped in the 9.1 pro DVD and went into Yast2 (Install and remove software) and did a search for kuickshow. It said:
No results.
So then I opened a shell/console and typed: locate kuickshow.
I got a list that included these two lines:
/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow /opt/kde3/share/apps/kuickshow
Try using pin to locate which package kuickshow is in: pin kuickshow and then re-install that package. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989 SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please*
* Gil Weber
I have a mystery and would appreciate your wise counsel.
thanks, but may participate in spite of the qualification?
I have been using kuickshow to display .tiff files. No problems until today.
you have recently upgraded kde to versin 3.3.0 ??
Now when I click on a .tif file I get a message that says:
KDEInit could not launch 'kuickshow' Could not find 'kuickshow' executable
You have not installed the upgraded program. It has been moved into: kdegraphics3-imaging_3.3.0-12
So I popped in the 9.1 pro DVD and went into Yast2 (Install and remove software) and did a search for kuickshow. It said:
No results.
It is not a stand-alone program but was included in kdegraphics3.
So then I opened a shell/console and typed: locate kuickshow.
I got a list that included these two lines:
/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow /opt/kde3/share/apps/kuickshow
Your locate database, /var/lib/locatedb has not been updated since you upgraded kde.
So now I'm totally confused. The executable is not on my computer despite "locate" telling me it is. And when I try to add it using the install and delete software function in Yast it doesn't even come up as available on the DVD.
I hope all explained above.
Yet until a few days ago kuickshow was working great.
and the new version is just as good. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Monday, 11 October 2004 19.42, Gil Weber wrote:
Hi, everyone. I have a mystery and would appreciate your wise counsel.
I have been using kuickshow to display .tiff files. No problems until today.
Now when I click on a .tif file I get a message that says:
KDEInit could not launch 'kuickshow' Could not find 'kuickshow' executable
So I popped in the 9.1 pro DVD and went into Yast2 (Install and remove software) and did a search for kuickshow. It said:
No results.
So then I opened a shell/console and typed: locate kuickshow.
I got a list that included these two lines:
/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow /opt/kde3/share/apps/kuickshow
In the first, a group of executables, there was no kuickshow despite it displaying as part of "locate." And in the second group of folders, there again was no kuickshow despite it being displayed by "locate."
So now I'm totally confused. The executable is not on my computer despite "locate" telling me it is.
the locate database is updated once a day, so if you changed your system, it won't show up in "locate" until the next day, unless you manually run /etc/cron.daily/updatedb as root
And when I try to add it using the install and delete software function in Yast it doesn't even come up as available on the DVD.
Your problem is that your latest red carpet update got you the latest kdegraphics3 packages, and they've been slightly rearranged On the CD it was part of kdegraphics3. In the new KDE 3.3 packages it's been moved to a new package called kdegraphics3-imaging. In red carpet, go to the "available" tab, scroll down to kdegraphics3-imaging and mark it for installation and click "Run Now".
** Reply to message from Anders Johansson
On Monday, 11 October 2004 19.42, Gil Weber wrote:
Hi, everyone. I have a mystery and would appreciate your wise counsel.
I have been using kuickshow to display .tiff files. No problems until today.
(snip)
the locate database is updated once a day, so if you changed your system, it won't show up in "locate" until the next day, unless you manually run /etc/cron.daily/updatedb as root
Thank you. I was unaware of this.
And when I try to add it using the install and delete software function in Yast it doesn't even come up as available on the DVD.
Your problem is that your latest red carpet update got you the latest kdegraphics3 packages, and they've been slightly rearranged
On the CD it was part of kdegraphics3. In the new KDE 3.3 packages it's been moved to a new package called kdegraphics3-imaging. In red carpet, go to the "available" tab, scroll down to kdegraphics3-imaging and mark it for installation and click "Run Now".
Yes ! Once I deleted a conflicting version of kolourpaint it installed and now kuickshow works! Thanks Anders and Patrick! ;o) So, gurus. I had no idea that updating red-carpet would change my kuickshow via the changes in this new package kdegraphics3-imaging. I just upgraded the packages red-carpet offered to me as part of a regular update. I never saw kdegraphics3-imaging until I checked the "available" tab as suggested by Anders. Otherwise I would have never known it exited. Is this the sort of thing that a relative neophyte to Linux should have known about? Should I have been able to anticipate this? Should I have been able to figure this out on my own? Or was this something pretty sophisticated and not reasonably something a neophte should have been able to diagnose and fix on my own? Thx! ;o) Gil
On Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02.15, Gil Weber wrote:
So, gurus. I had no idea that updating red-carpet would change my kuickshow via the changes in this new package kdegraphics3-imaging. I just upgraded the packages red-carpet offered to me as part of a regular update. I never saw kdegraphics3-imaging until I checked the "available" tab as suggested by Anders. Otherwise I would have never known it exited.
Is this the sort of thing that a relative neophyte to Linux should have known about? Should I have been able to anticipate this? Should I have been able to figure this out on my own?
No, when the packagers change things around it can throw off the best of them. It's very disconcerting and should be kept to a minimum. I only discovered what was going on by downloading the source rpm and looking at the specification file, to see why it wasn't included.
* Anders Johansson
On Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02.15, Gil Weber wrote:
Is this the sort of thing that a relative neophyte to Linux should have known about? Should I have been able to anticipate this? Should I have been able to figure this out on my own?
No, when the packagers change things around it can throw off the best of them. It's very disconcerting and should be kept to a minimum. I only discovered what was going on by downloading the source rpm and looking at the specification file, to see why it wasn't included.
Another way was just exhibited. Monitoring the mail lists. Good information passes. I noticed on the suse-kde list this package and a couple others. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
** Reply to message from Anders Johansson
On Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02.15, Gil Weber wrote:
So, gurus. I had no idea that updating red-carpet would change my kuickshow via the changes in this new package kdegraphics3-imaging. I just upgraded the packages red-carpet offered to me as part of a regular update. I never saw kdegraphics3-imaging until I checked the "available" tab as suggested by Anders. Otherwise I would have never known it exited.
Is this the sort of thing that a relative neophyte to Linux should have known about? Should I have been able to anticipate this? Should I have been able to figure this out on my own?
No, when the packagers change things around it can throw off the best of them. It's very disconcerting and should be kept to a minimum. I only discovered what was going on by downloading the source rpm and looking at the specification file, to see why it wasn't included.
Thanks for the reassurance! ;o) Gil
Anders Johansson
No, when the packagers change things around it can throw off the best of them. It's very disconcerting and should be kept to a minimum.
YaST and YOU can deal with such package splits. It's not our fault that rpm doesn't support package renames and splits. Philipp
Op dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 09:13, schreef Philipp Thomas:
YaST and YOU can deal with such package splits. It's not our fault that rpm doesn't support package renames and splits.
Is there an explanation how YOU is dealing with package splits? kde-3.2: kdegraphics3-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-3D-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-devel-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-extra-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-fax-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-kamera-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-pdf-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-postscript-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-scan-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-tex-3.2.1-63.i586.rpm kde-3.3: kdegraphics3-3.3.0-13.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-3D-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-extra-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-fax-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-imaging-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-kamera-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-pdf-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-postscript-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-scan-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm kdegraphics3-tex-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm Diff: update_for_9.1/applications $ comm -3 /tmp/kde-3.? kdegraphics3-devel kdegraphics3-imaging Let's forget about devel. # rpm -qlp kdegraphics3-imaging-3.3.0-12.i586.rpm | grep bin /opt/kde3/bin/kiconedit /opt/kde3/bin/kolourpaint /opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow /opt/kde3/bin/kview kolourpaint is new kiconedit and kview moved from kdegraphics3-extra-3.2.1 kuickshow moved from kdegraphics3-3.2.1 PROVIDENAME: kdegraphics3:/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow PROVIDES: kdegraphics3:/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow I assume that when the the above 2 rpm tags contains a colon ":" it means that the file /opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow from kdegraphics3 has been replaced by this package (in this case kdegraphics3-imaging). Is this assumption correct? Does it mean that information about the move of the apps kiconedit and kview is missing? Meaning that YOU won't be able to tell that e.g. kiconedit has moved to kdegraphics3-imaging from kdegraphics3-extra? -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Richard Bos
PROVIDENAME: kdegraphics3:/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow PROVIDES: kdegraphics3:/opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow
I assume that when the the above 2 rpm tags contains a colon ":" it means that the file /opt/kde3/bin/kuickshow from kdegraphics3 has been replaced by this package (in this case kdegraphics3-imaging). Is this assumption correct?
Yes.
Does it mean that information about the move of the apps kiconedit and kview is missing? Meaning that YOU won't be able to tell that e.g. kiconedit has moved to kdegraphics3-imaging from kdegraphics3-extra?
Could be. I'll check tomorrow at work. Philipp
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