[opensuse] What happened to Adobe Acrobat reader
I can't seem to find acroread any more. -- Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone. --John Maynard Keynes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:25:36AM -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Adobe no longer supports a Linux version. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/07/14 11:28, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:25:36AM -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Adobe no longer supports a Linux version.
Ciao, Marcus
I haven't tried yet as I am still on 12.3, but does latest Adobe Reader for Windows work under wine? Alvin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 12:23 PM, Alvin Beach wrote:
I haven't tried yet as I am still on 12.3, but does latest Adobe Reader for Windows work under wine?
I'm not interested in running wine. It seems like more hassle. Just running acroread is not enough motivation. if things get that bad I'll fire up my father's old XP laptop... -- "The capacity to learn is a gift; The ability to learn is a skill; The willingness to learn is a choice." -- Brain Herbert, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 13:23 -0300, Alvin Beach escribió:
I haven't tried yet as I am still on 12.3, but does latest Adobe Reader for Windows work under wine?
Last time I tried, no; but there was work on it. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPOlPsACgkQja8UbcUWM1ygewEAm1C97pET/YuTItGMfe19qHMh Sw8usZokzi7MdLWi/PMA/jhSSNm4PFt6qrcbwWi7rWvGAXSvTfgYZPTnraXB0PaU =e7uv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Anton, I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 10:39 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Anton,
I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it.
I'm currently limping by with Foxit and a pile of unseemly 32-bit libraries :-( zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why? Foxit is not very good at form filling. Some GovCanada forms, not least of all the tax forms, seem only to work with Adobe. -- Every procedure for getting a cat to take a pill works fine -- once. Like the Borg, they learn... -- Terry Pratchett -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 22/07/14 15:53, Anton Aylward wrote:
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Spelling? Try 'okular' Bob - -- Bob Williams System: Linux 3.11.10-17-desktop Distro: openSUSE 13.1 (x86_64) with KDE Development Platform: 4.13.3 Uptime: 06:00am up 13:52, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlPOfn0ACgkQ0Sr7eZJrmU6BcACfTAj9tnB6rsZrPWS/s4HyvTiQ uBAAn2eB1ddeH11AaFuvHtjF9gr+qwvc =/kYR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 11:08 AM, Bob Williams wrote:
On 22/07/14 15:53, Anton Aylward wrote:
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Spelling? Try 'okular'
Damn! Thank you :-) Now, how did I mis-spell 'kpdf'? -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [07-22-14 11:16]:
On 07/22/2014 11:08 AM, Bob Williams wrote:
On 22/07/14 15:53, Anton Aylward wrote:
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Spelling? Try 'okular'
Damn! Thank you :-)
Now, how did I mis-spell 'kpdf'?
You got that one right, but it is a KDE3 package with baggage. :^) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 11:58 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [07-22-14 11:16]:
On 07/22/2014 11:08 AM, Bob Williams wrote:
On 22/07/14 15:53, Anton Aylward wrote:
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Spelling? Try 'okular'
Damn! Thank you :-)
Now, how did I mis-spell 'kpdf'?
You got that one right, but it is a KDE3 package with baggage. :^)
All that 32-bit stuff is more baggage than I want anyway. I don't nee to bring yet more in. -- "Objectives are not fate; they are direction. They are not commands; they are commitments. They do not determine the future; they are a means to mobilize resources and energies of the business for the making of the future." -- Peter F. Drucker. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:41:06 PM Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/22/2014 11:58 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [07-22-14 11:16]:
On 07/22/2014 11:08 AM, Bob Williams wrote:
On 22/07/14 15:53, Anton Aylward wrote:
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Spelling? Try 'okular'
Damn! Thank you :-)
Now, how did I mis-spell 'kpdf'?
You got that one right, but it is a KDE3 package with baggage. :^)
All that 32-bit stuff is more baggage than I want anyway. I don't nee to bring yet more in.
Wait, What? http://okular.kde.org/ Its been part of KDE4 since the Pleistocene. --
From the Myth of Me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:27:45 PM John M Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:41:06 PM Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/22/2014 11:58 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [07-22-14 11:16]:
On 07/22/2014 11:08 AM, Bob Williams wrote:
On 22/07/14 15:53, Anton Aylward wrote:
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Spelling? Try 'okular'
Damn! Thank you :-)
Now, how did I mis-spell 'kpdf'?
You got that one right, but it is a KDE3 package with baggage. :^)
All that 32-bit stuff is more baggage than I want anyway. I don't nee to bring yet more in.
Wait, What? http://okular.kde.org/
Its been part of KDE4 since the Pleistocene.
John, No, he is not talking about Okular on KDE4 but KPDF on KDE3. KPDF is not on KDE4 or any oS standard repository. You could pull KPDF from http://software.opensuse.org/package/kpdftool?search_term=KPDF And is considered unstable for 13.1 or 12.3 Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 10:53 -0400, Anton Aylward escribió:
On 07/22/2014 10:39 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
I'm currently limping by with Foxit and a pile of unseemly 32-bit libraries :-(
Don't even try the Linux version of Foxit, it is abandonware. Use the Windows version under wine instead. It has form support, full, I think, but signature check does not work (not supported by Wine).
Some GovCanada forms, not least of all the tax forms, seem only to work with Adobe.
Same here. Well, I have not tried with Foxit with the difficult ones. I had a 5 page invoice the other day that would only print to page 2. To print the rest I had to use acroread. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPOle8ACgkQja8UbcUWM1xh7gD/eI6NSNyLW/8xFn1vPgVPKXLB YMF4FvAxgimKXgM9/3sA/R+ESKmwWCi/SXd4S2tRdRw8srXMvfs7+UvU6ewr/h6c =jmPM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 07/22/2014 12:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had a 5 page invoice the other day that would only print to page 2. To print the rest I had to use acroread.
I've had that problem too, and worse! Which is why I'm trying to find the old acroread installation. -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change and to preserve change amid order. --Alfred North Whitehead -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 13:05 -0400, Anton Aylward escribió:
On 07/22/2014 12:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I had a 5 page invoice the other day that would only print to page 2. To print the rest I had to use acroread.
I've had that problem too, and worse! Which is why I'm trying to find the old acroread installation.
Get the last rpm from one of the old update repos, keep it safe, and install it. acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i586 Be aware that it MAY have security risks. I'm about 99% sure it has some. (forms use javascript code, so beware) You can configure apparmour to confine it some. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPOnM4ACgkQja8UbcUWM1yGOQD8CGup0yjwuPQb2NWXK5h+lHBi LRO/yErfaBVGgTc95scA/j90FC3td65FT5h37n2sqRZ2SdgattPL3IQmrDCEAHrZ =kAjK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 07/22/2014 08:05 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Which is why I'm trying to find the old acroread installation.
- just my experience : while okular usually suffices : - in difficult edit circumstances . . . use OpenOffice to open the pdf file Next, use OpenOffice to Export the pdf file to an Image format Then, Edit the Image file using OpenOffice & Finally re-Export the Image file back to PDF format .............. regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 08:28:47 PM ellanios82 wrote:
On 07/22/2014 08:05 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Which is why I'm trying to find the old acroread installation.
_______________
- just my experience : while okular usually suffices :
- in difficult edit circumstances . . . use OpenOffice to open the pdf file
Next, use OpenOffice to Export the pdf file to an Image format
Then, Edit the Image file using OpenOffice
& Finally re-Export the Image file back to PDF format
..............
regards
+1 That's the way to work on Non Government Form or Non Security Form. If you make it this way the original form will lose the certificates. You are editing a original PDF so is not filling an original form. So far I know, we do not have any (FLOSS) application able to fill a government form with no changing its security certificate. Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 18:59 -0500, Ricardo Chung escribió:
+1 That's the way to work on Non Government Form or Non Security Form. If you make it this way the original form will lose the certificates. You are editing a original PDF so is not filling an original form.
So far I know, we do not have any (FLOSS) application able to fill a government form with no changing its security certificate.
Any modification nullifies the certificate. The way that can be done, i understand, is that the PDF saves the certified copy, and the modifications separately, in the same file, but accessible. And perhaps the modifications can be signed with your own certificate. This is guessing on my mart, I have not seen it. All forms I have used had mandatorily to be printed and handed over in person, hand signed with blue ink ball-pen. I have to hand over one such form perhaps tomorrow, and they specifically say "no email, no fax". - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPO/8kACgkQja8UbcUWM1y7aAD7BPF+MXrqcJFDhecMDWM4JWOZ Bpc6ns1ySo5uZxu2v4kA/3C95Xr1FjLTb68BbTpWsKwNFUdxYjjEF1SVwLI2HX7i =50+E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 02:20:15 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 2014-07-22 a las 18:59 -0500, Ricardo Chung escribió:
+1 That's the way to work on Non Government Form or Non Security Form. If you make it this way the original form will lose the certificates. You are editing a original PDF so is not filling an original form.
So far I know, we do not have any (FLOSS) application able to fill a government form with no changing its security certificate.
Any modification nullifies the certificate. The way that can be done, i understand, is that the PDF saves the certified copy, and the modifications separately, in the same file, but accessible. And perhaps the modifications can be signed with your own certificate.
If it possible right now,Not known. It looks complex and hard to accomplish.
This is guessing on my mart, I have not seen it. All forms I have used had mandatorily to be printed and handed over in person, hand signed with blue ink ball-pen.
I mostly agree. Filling the form, print it and hand over in person. Some exceptions, I can not recall right now. Some forms with drop downs tab. You need to fill and return it online.
I have to hand over one such form perhaps tomorrow, and they specifically say "no email, no fax".
If time is possible on my side, I would like to try pdftk (command line) with pdftk-qgui (QT graphical interface). So far I read, It could fill the expectations. They are available from openSUSE-13.1-Oss and Packman repositories.
-- Cheers Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))
Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 20:17 -0500, Ricardo Chung escribió:
On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 02:20:15 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
Any modification nullifies the certificate. The way that can be done, i understand, is that the PDF saves the certified copy, and the modifications separately, in the same file, but accessible. And perhaps the modifications can be signed with your own certificate.
If it possible right now,Not known. It looks complex and hard to accomplish.
On some of the signed receipts or invoices I get, if viewed in acrobat, I can click somewhere on the left hand panel and see the document version prior and after the signing event. - From this I speculated how a signed and filled form could work. I have not tried to do it: as I said, they usually request to print and hand sign here. And years ago they told me the signing feature needed the full Windows acrobat version, anyway... dunno if this changed.
If time is possible on my side, I would like to try pdftk (command line) with pdftk-qgui (QT graphical interface). So far I read, It could fill the expectations. They are available from openSUSE-13.1-Oss and Packman repositories.
AFAIK, the problem is javascript. Many forms use javascript code, and there is no Linux PDF viewer that supports running javascript code. That, and signatures. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPPFEgACgkQja8UbcUWM1yVAAD+JkXf2FAcoNzSeguIoad/lcRt SxcKk2TorA3jqF6nQ9YA/2ZzG6Xn1JMBXBbDsgHU8qnlKiPnHIELZn9Wi3jI8Xhy =lf2h -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Le 23/07/2014 02:20, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
Any modification nullifies the certificate. The way that can be done, i understand, is that the PDF saves the certified copy, and the modifications separately, in the same file, but accessible. And perhaps the modifications can be signed with your own certificate.
In France, to sell a car you can use a pdf form (to save you copying three time complex data). The pdf can"t be read by anything else than acrobat, AFAIK, and can't be saved on the original document, but only on a copy. So when I prepare the document with a car number, I make a copy, then fill the buyer data and do another copy (the copy is still modifiable). it's still possible (authorized) to fill it by hand jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 10:53 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Anton,
I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it. I'm currently limping by with Foxit and a pile of unseemly 32-bit
On 07/22/2014 10:39 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: libraries :-(
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Foxit is not very good at form filling. Some GovCanada forms, not least of all the tax forms, seem only to work with Adobe.
I don't know why it surprises anybody. Adobe invented pdfs, so they know how to work them. Adobe probably got POed at Linux because every distro came up with some kind of kluge to replace Adobe, so they said, "Why should we bother--we're not welcome!" --dm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 12:49 -0400, Doug escribió:
On 07/22/2014 10:53 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Foxit is not very good at form filling. Some GovCanada forms, not least of all the tax forms, seem only to work with Adobe.
I don't know why it surprises anybody. Adobe invented pdfs, so they know how to work them.
Not exactly. PDFs are a published standard; but adobe invents additions which it does not publish, or which you are not free to use.
Adobe probably got POed at Linux because every distro came up with some kind of kluge to replace Adobe, so they said, "Why should we bother--we're not welcome!"
No, it is not that simple, I don't buy it. There are many more PDF applications in Windows than in Linux. Actually, in Windows there are PAYWARE applications to create types of PDFs that we don't have. We don't have tools, to my knowledge, that can create pdf forms or signed documents for legal ussage. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPOnfMACgkQja8UbcUWM1xtOQEAhGSDZxBCHtEVi0mTg2DnY2RV CZSZrbcG0ZdYgBFU7q0A/1/0tgMoZaM/Sx3mVZGr8XnKRDtDGBJ/qoFVu2BL6Ven =Yfd0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 07:22:59 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 2014-07-22 a las 12:49 -0400, Doug escribió:
On 07/22/2014 10:53 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
[edited]
There are many more PDF applications in Windows than in Linux. Actually, in Windows there are PAYWARE applications to create types of PDFs that we don't have.
+1
We don't have tools, to my knowledge, that can create pdf forms or signed documents for legal ussage.
+1
-- Cheers Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))
Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 01:22 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
We don't have tools, to my knowledge, that can create pdf forms or signed documents for legal ussage.
There is much scattered though this thread about forms, javascript, signatures and more that tells me Linux is sorely in need for a real replacement for acroread or a tool which addresses these issues without having to resort to something running under Windows. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-07-23 13:44, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/22/2014 01:22 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
We don't have tools, to my knowledge, that can create pdf forms or signed documents for legal ussage.
There is much scattered though this thread about forms, javascript, signatures and more that tells me Linux is sorely in need for a real replacement for acroread or a tool which addresses these issues without having to resort to something running under Windows.
I don't think it is possible. Adobe is the leader in this field, everybody simply tries to replicate what they do. And developers in Linux have never even tried to get that close, in decades... I don't see them closing the gap soon. And adobe has abandoned the Linux field, no idea why. Must be intentional, some hidden agenda. Yes, I'm paranoid in this respect. Either that, or they are sorely pissed with Linux. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 07/22/2014 05:53 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
or ocular. I wonder why?
_ maybe, okular spelled with a "K" { my experience : okular is excellent } ................ regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 09:53 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/22/2014 10:39 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Anton,
I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it.
I'm currently limping by with Foxit and a pile of unseemly 32-bit libraries :-(
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Foxit is not very good at form filling. Some GovCanada forms, not least of all the tax forms, seem only to work with Adobe.
Anton, kpdf is kde3. You'll need to add the repo: 22:41 alchemy:~/.../io/network/sockets> cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/kde3.repo [kde3] name=kde3 enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_13.1/ type=rpm-md keeppackages=1 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 23:21 -0500, David C. Rankin escribió:
On 07/22/2014 09:53 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Anton,
kpdf is kde3. You'll need to add the repo:
And 64 bit, AFAIK :-) - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPPjxUACgkQja8UbcUWM1y8FQD+IqOfjMol5l4XWHrDC5IY9DQm 6UNq+COlYifEv+QpQ1AA/3gmlLBkYRK6zQ4x2Ievd4Z+ZN0QM7cW8LXwfHnaDd1A =XXor -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:21:32 PM David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/22/2014 09:53 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/22/2014 10:39 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Anton,
I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on
search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it.
I'm currently limping by with Foxit and a pile of unseemly 32-bit libraries :-(
zypper install can't find kpdf or ocular. I wonder why?
Foxit is not very good at form filling. Some GovCanada forms, not least of all the tax forms, seem only to work with Adobe.
Anton,
kpdf is kde3. You'll need to add the repo:
22:41 alchemy:~/.../io/network/sockets> cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/kde3.repo [kde3] name=kde3 enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_13.1/ type=rpm-md keeppackages=1
Is there a substantial differences between KPDF and Okular? I thought Okular was integrating the whole KPDF features and adding its own for KDE4. Could you clarify? Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2014 01:13 PM, Ricardo Chung wrote:
Is there a substantial differences between KPDF and Okular? I thought Okular was integrating the whole KPDF features and adding its own for KDE4. Could you clarify?
Regards,
R.Chung
Yes, Okular includes kpdf, though I'm not sure if it retains the same look & feel as the kde3 version, but I'm fairly sure it provides the same functionality. If you are running kde4, then there is no need to add anything from the kde3 repo. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 01:24:56 PM David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/23/2014 01:13 PM, Ricardo Chung wrote:
Is there a substantial differences between KPDF and Okular? I thought Okular was integrating the whole KPDF features and adding its own for KDE4. Could you clarify?
Regards,
R.Chung
Yes,
Okular includes kpdf, though I'm not sure if it retains the same look & feel as the kde3 version, but I'm fairly sure it provides the same functionality. If you are running kde4, then there is no need to add anything from the kde3 repo.
Thank you. I can not remember how different KPDF is from Okular. The last time I tried KPDF was oS 10.3 or 11.0 (not sure). I am happily using Okular. I would say it is the most full features and flexible PDF viewer on Linux, ATM. Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 09:39 -0500, David C. Rankin escribió:
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
Anton,
I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it.
Unfortunately, the only Linux reader that /fully/ suports form filling, and security signature verification, is, or was, acrobat. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPOlMUACgkQja8UbcUWM1xMhgD/Tq/WnBI1kgrZOAeaTQiCAhx7 Hdh3zytFIzvOWnhwI0UBAI0XIdOk83CQI+7UGfTT7XuEjWCiiJ5HuSBm/zCKN4rU =NFWD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
"I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 13:06 -0400, Anton Aylward escribió:
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
"I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is.
Oh. Sorry, can't help you there today. I'm on capped internet, 1 Gbyte/month, so I only browse if absolutely necesary. But have a look at the non-oss update repo of 12.3 or earlier. It should still be there, unless they removed it :-? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPOnnoACgkQja8UbcUWM1xq2gD+LT71K6gwcpPrfHgER2fY/GKH q2Ccyj9F4kiYto0p0D4A/22i9dMlcHJ7s8qhD8psnV3rhPBP4o4fQU+5er8OGFGJ =KZMQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Am 22/07/14 19:06, schrieb Anton Aylward:
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
"I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is.
Did you try the 9.5.5 version here: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/ I installed this one on SuSE 13.1, 64Bit. acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586.rpm had a lot of dependencies: error: Failed dependencies: libcrypto.so.0.9.8 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libcurl.so.4 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libssl.so.0.9.8 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libGL.so.1 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libGLU.so.1 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libXext.so.6 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libatk-1.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libgmodule-2.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libgobject-2.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libidn.so.11 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libpango-1.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libpangox-1.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 is needed by acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586 but AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.tar.bz2 did the trick. BR ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-07-22 23:14, MarkusGMX wrote:
Am 22/07/14 19:06, schrieb Anton Aylward:
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
"I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is.
Did you try the 9.5.5 version here: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/
You can get it from here: http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/i586/acroread-9.5.5-8.1.i58... That's the one I'm using. Yes, it has many deps, but YaST solves them. It is a 32 bit app, it always was. (don't add the 12.3 repo: instead download the rpm to your own local directory, and add that directory as local plain rpm repo to yast/zypper) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 07/22/2014 05:14 PM, MarkusGMX wrote:
Am 22/07/14 19:06, schrieb Anton Aylward:
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
"I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is.
Did you try the 9.5.5 version here: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/
I installed this one on SuSE 13.1, 64Bit.
acroread-9.5.5-3.24.1.i586.rpm had a lot of dependencies: error: Failed dependencies: [snip]
I got # zypper install acroread-9.5.4-1.1.i586.rpm Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 12 NEW packages are going to be installed: acroread libGLU1-32bit libICE6-32bit libidn11-32bit libpangox-1_0-0 libSM6-32bit libuuid1-32bit libxml2-2-32bit libXt6-32bit nspluginwrapper openldap2-client pangox-compat 12 new packages to install. Overall download size: 42.5 MiB. After the operation, additional 138.6 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [07-22-14 13:08]:
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates.
"I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is.
http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2014 09:33 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [07-22-14 13:08]:
On 07/22/2014 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dead. You can install the old version, though. Without any more updates. "I would if I could but I can't" Find it that is. http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/
Look at this url: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/ It contains download links to adobereader in .rpm, .deb, .bin, and a tar file. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 09:39:38 AM David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/22/2014 09:25 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Anton,
I've always preferred kpdf over acroread anyway. Much more flexible on search/copy/paste. kde4/ocular should work as well, but I've not used it.
So far I know, there is not an updated PDF filler for Linux capable to keep the original signature from the source. What about using an online PDF form filler online free? That would help you to deal with old unmaintained application like Acrobat Reader and its security issues or the hassle to install more dependencies you would like to. Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 19:11 -0500, Ricardo Chung escribió:
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 09:39:38 AM David C. Rankin wrote:
What about using an online PDF form filler online free?
Out of the question, for security reasons. That reminds me: the European Union is preparing moves, legislative or court order, against google privacy policies. What they (google) understand as privacy is a far cry from what many European countries understand as privacy. So no, I'm not going to use an online service to fill forms with financial or other important matters on an outside server, and even worse, one that is not based in my own country, using machines outside of my country, and thus not subject to our strict laws on data protection. If there is no other way, I'll install Windows. (shudder!) - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF0EAREIAAYFAlPPEjQACgkQja8UbcUWM1xvzwDzBv5OYrA2QPKT0IG2ayRvfwJe 3Kg6ZYt8MpWNMzhAvgD/XnEYnlmlOiXiZIE36qCxfRNV5aR2aZFXWJbY8JX7x6c= =S4z4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 03:38:51 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 2014-07-22 a las 19:11 -0500, Ricardo Chung escribió:
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 09:39:38 AM David C. Rankin wrote:
What about using an online PDF form filler online free?
Out of the question, for security reasons.
That reminds me: the European Union is preparing moves, legislative or court order, against google privacy policies. What they (google) understand as privacy is a far cry from what many European countries understand as privacy.
So no, I'm not going to use an online service to fill forms with financial or other important matters on an outside server, and even worse, one that is not based in my own country, using machines outside of my country, and thus not subject to our strict laws on data protection.
If there is no other way, I'll install Windows.
(shudder!)
-- Cheers Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))
I understand those concerns. I share all of those with you. Using Microsoft Windows will not help to be protected or private at all. Since a pragmatical point of view, I would use online converters for no so sensitive stuffs. From paranoid point of view, I will go back to the old fashion days (my own encryption system with plenty crazy not so easy leads to decrypt it).:-D Regards, R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-23 a las 13:07 -0700, Ricardo Chung escribió:
On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 03:38:51 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
If there is no other way, I'll install Windows.
(shudder!)
I understand those concerns. I share all of those with you.
Using Microsoft Windows will not help to be protected or private at all.
Yes if it can not connect to Internet ;-)
Since a pragmatical point of view, I would use online converters for no so sensitive stuffs.
But it happens that the documents that I need to check the signature of, or to fill forms, are sensitive. Receipts, invoices, goverment forms... The rest are usually public stuf, manuals and such, and they open with anything.
From paranoid point of view, I will go back to the old fashion days (my own encryption system with plenty crazy not so easy leads to decrypt it).:-D
:-) - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPQOxQACgkQja8UbcUWM1y8TwD/ZmKrM/Vm2gWdZaF5Gqqgh4Er Blsm8SAbo44UxI2qlJQA+gMH4rGQ33bywtPZcMZgHQJ0mizyhIJFdRLjE+vQhBn0 =NaE3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tue 22 Jul 2014 10:25:36 AM CDT, Anton Aylward wrote:
I can't seem to find acroread any more.
Hi What about Codeweavers crossover? I have it installed as my user... I have an older version here 12.5.1 and just let it install Acrobat XI, seems to work fine... http://www.imagebam.com/image/dbb520340571600 At least you can try a trial version? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) 3.10.1 Kernel 3.11.10-17-desktop up 2 days 11:03, 5 users, load average: 0.41, 0.48, 0.47 CPU Intel® B840@1.9GHz | GPU Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 20:35 -0500, Malcolm escribió:
On Tue 22 Jul 2014 10:25:36 AM CDT, Anton Aylward wrote:
Hi What about Codeweavers crossover? I have it installed as my user...
I have an older version here 12.5.1 and just let it install Acrobat XI, seems to work fine... http://www.imagebam.com/image/dbb520340571600
At least you can try a trial version?
I have it installed on this laptop, albeit a bit old: crossover-11.3.1-1.i386. From that time they gave out free licenses. I could try acrobat XI on that one... but I can not download it here, I have a 1 Gb/month cap. I have to wait till I make a trip to the city again. If it works in codeweavers, it can be made to work in wine, too. Somehow... Can you try if signature checking works on yours? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPPHOoACgkQja8UbcUWM1w+kAD8CUoTbZfBy8QZvcFairk3poKP OdsBUyiwp5zQQ9t1KRcA/1qQ6kFuvlL8wfw1IP7BCNLrYIfnWxPfPE/RrMdvHfyW =JccR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed 23 Jul 2014 04:24:42 AM CDT, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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El 2014-07-22 a las 20:35 -0500, Malcolm escribió:
On Tue 22 Jul 2014 10:25:36 AM CDT, Anton Aylward wrote:
Hi What about Codeweavers crossover? I have it installed as my user...
I have an older version here 12.5.1 and just let it install Acrobat XI, seems to work fine... http://www.imagebam.com/image/dbb520340571600
At least you can try a trial version?
I have it installed on this laptop, albeit a bit old: crossover-11.3.1-1.i386. From that time they gave out free licenses. I could try acrobat XI on that one... but I can not download it here, I have a 1 Gb/month cap. I have to wait till I make a trip to the city again.
If it works in codeweavers, it can be made to work in wine, too. Somehow...
Can you try if signature checking works on yours?
Hi Nope, nothing appears after clicking on sign.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) 3.10.1 Kernel 3.11.10-17-desktop up 2 days 12:42, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.16, 0.21 CPU Intel® B840@1.9GHz | GPU Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2014-07-22 a las 22:11 -0500, Malcolm escribió:
On Wed 23 Jul 2014 04:24:42 AM CDT, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Can you try if signature checking works on yours?
Hi Nope, nothing appears after clicking on sign....
That's bad. Wait, I do not mean adding a signature, but checking if an already signed document you get from somewhere, checks. With Foxit in Wine it does not work, because Wine does not support the needed hooks. If Adobe uses the same hooks, it will not work, either. Only if Adobe does the check internally it will work, which is why it worked in Linux with the version they made. Signing your own documents is another matter. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPPkSAACgkQja8UbcUWM1zDQQD9HlXe5OYYh9Z0BFHi0s6ZwJ2h Y7K4GBWv0UxRi+kUx6oA+wTUpj2z4x5MRSnf/LBb97lp0RimyHkA8DH4qQ77DE/s =dL6f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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