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Just wanted to say "Hi", and a few other things to. I've been seriously trying to use SuSE for about a year, so I'm still VERY much a newbie. I tried a few other distro's before I settled on SuSE. For the most part SuSE does a superb job of setting up. Now for the downsides of what I'm having trouble with: Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ] When I can get the other computers on the network to see the Linux box at all it asks for an access password. I only have two setting on this box. Root and "user" [ me]. Neither will work to give me access. When I try going the other way I get asked for a password. None of the Windows computers have access passwords set. SaX2 Should be renamed sUx2. My first SuSE distro was 9.3 [ had 9.0 for a VERY short time about three years ago or so. ] SaX had a LOT more usability back then than either 10.0 or 10.1. Now you have to use the settings it gives or else. I lost my system Saturday night trying to change the resolution on my monitor. These poor old eyes just ain't up to those super high resolutions. I was having to go to 22 and 24 for font sizes to get them barely big enough to see. Suggestion to whomever We just bought a couple new eMachines at a big box store. They came with, what I consider, THE ultimate backup utility. It will create bootable ISO cd/DVD's of the entire system. It would be nice to have that ability [ especially after Saturday night ]. Don't tell e about "mkisofs".Done looked into that. The instructions look like something translated from Chinese into Japanese then into Greek by a Swahili. I'm a "newbie". I can barely install tar balls. On the subject of the eMachines Stupid damn things have ATI Radion Xpress video cards. I looked and found the "supposed" drivers for it but the instructions were even worse than the mkisofs. Something about standing on your left leg holding your right foot in your left hand and the thumb on your right in your left ear. Guess it will just have to remain a Windows machine for the foreseeable future. I was looking forward to seeing what it would do with SuSE. Why can't the instructions be "SIMPLE". There are people out here that aren't geeks, nerds or guru's. Permissions These things are driving me nuts. I want to use TWPSK hooked up to my ham radion. BUT, I have to have the serial port. UH uh. Can't use that. Don't have permission. I know Linux in general was/is set up to be more or less idiot proof in a user/administrator environment. That's why all this permission stuff. Keep all those fingers from causing to much trouble. BUT, this is a home computer. One user, ME. I use it to make my web pages. Do my e-mail. Surf the web. AND spend way to much money on eBay. I could use a little more simplicity to get things to work here. Enough of a rant for now. I DO like SuSE. After a year+ I would rather use it than Windows. [ XP totally sucks and I can hardly wait to see how bad they screwed up Vista - got a free "upgrade" (?) coming for the eMachine ] I AM learning, but it's slow going. Be damned if I will give up on it. Just ignore my rants. AND, keep your answers simple enough for an idiot to follow. I WILL get there eventually. If I didn't have computers to drive me nuts, I'd have to take up golf. Compaq Presario 2.3 GHz Celeron 512 Meg SuSE 10.1 Dual booted with Windows XP eMachine 3506 3.5 GHz Dual Core Celeron 1 Gig Windows XP only *<[:op [ Don't know if I will use the Vista upgrade or not Wonder what it would bring on eBay. *<[:oD ] -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 December 2006 19:54, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
Just wanted to say "Hi", and a few other things to.
I've been seriously trying to use SuSE for about a year, so I'm still VERY much a newbie. I tried a few other distro's before I settled on SuSE. For the most part SuSE does a superb job of setting up.
Welcome! I'm a newbie, too, but will hopefully help with a few of your issues. I've only been using SUSE full-time since 9.1 and have much to learn.
Now for the downsides of what I'm having trouble with:
Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ] When I can get the other computers on the network to see the Linux box at all it asks for an access password. I only have two setting on this box. Root and "user" [ me]. Neither will work to give me access. When I try going the other way I get asked for a password. None of the Windows computers have access passwords set.
For the SUSE side, you need to setup a user that has access. If you're using 10.1 and KDE, you'll want to right-click on one of the folders you want to share. I have - for example - home/kai/share as my shared folder. Right-click on it and click on "share" at the bottom of the menu. Click on the Share tab if it isn't already selected. Select "Share this folder in the local network" Select "Share with SAMBA" (You need to make sure SAMBA is installed and running as a service in the background. You can do that through YaST if you want.) Give it a name and whether or not you want it public and writable. I use that all the time. From my Win2K system at home or my WinXP system at work I just type in my IP address and the share to map a folder //1.2.3.4/share usually works.
SaX2 Should be renamed sUx2. My first SuSE distro was 9.3 [ had 9.0 for a VERY short time about three years ago or so. ] SaX had a LOT more usability back then than either 10.0 or 10.1. Now you have to use the settings it gives or else.
I lost my system Saturday night trying to change the resolution on my monitor. These poor old eyes just ain't up to those super high resolutions. I was having to go to 22 and 24 for font sizes to get them barely big enough to see.
Suggestion to whomever We just bought a couple new eMachines at a big box store. They came with, what I consider, THE ultimate backup utility. It will create bootable ISO cd/DVD's of the entire system. It would be nice to have that ability [ especially after Saturday night ]. Don't tell e about "mkisofs".Done looked into that. The instructions look like something translated from Chinese into Japanese then into Greek by a Swahili. I'm a "newbie". I can barely install tar balls.
Use KDar. It works like a charm and is easy enough for us newbies. I just recently restored my home folder when I blew away my system to install 10.1 over 10.0.
On the subject of the eMachines Stupid damn things have ATI Radion Xpress video cards. I looked and found the "supposed" drivers for it but the instructions were even worse than the mkisofs. Something about standing on your left leg holding your right foot in your left hand and the thumb on your right in your left ear. Guess it will just have to remain a Windows machine for the foreseeable future. I was looking forward to seeing what it would do with SuSE.
lol eMachines probably won't be supported since they design their hardware with Wintendo in mind. They are low-end and not usually found in linux arenas.
Why can't the instructions be "SIMPLE". There are people out here that aren't geeks, nerds or guru's.
Go to linuxquestion.org, and opensuse.com there are tutorials all over the place there.
Permissions These things are driving me nuts. I want to use TWPSK hooked up to my ham radion. BUT, I have to have the serial port. UH uh. Can't use that. Don't have permission. I know Linux in general was/is set up to be more or less idiot proof in a user/administrator environment. That's why all this permission stuff. Keep all those fingers from causing to much trouble. BUT, this is a home computer. One user, ME. I use it to make my web pages. Do my e-mail. Surf the web. AND spend way to much money on eBay. I could use a little more simplicity to get things to work here.
You "could" login as root. But then you could also make your system FUBAR. Play around a bit and you'll realize the power (and safety) in running in elevated privilages.
Enough of a rant for now. I DO like SuSE. After a year+ I would rather use it than Windows. [ XP totally sucks and I can hardly wait to see how bad they screwed up Vista - got a free "upgrade" (?) coming for the eMachine ] I AM learning, but it's slow going. Be damned if I will give up on it. Just ignore my rants. AND, keep your answers simple enough for an idiot to follow. I WILL get there eventually.
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Billie Erin Walsh a écrit :
Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ] When I can get the other computers on the network to see the Linux box at all it asks for an access password. I only have two setting on this box. Root and "user" [ me]. Neither will work to give me access. When I try going the other way I get asked for a password. None of the Windows computers have access passwords set.
may be more a windows problem than linux one? but, just in case, did you setup samba properly? samba is the windows file server for linux. if samba (server and client) are already installed, the only mandatory thing is to do as root "smbpasswd -a <your name>" to enter your samba passwd. I bet it's done by yast, but I'm usedd to do this with command line and it's easier to explain. after that, all depends of the windows version. I bet you must have passwd enabled on windows (but don't know how you can do that)
SaX2 Should be renamed sUx2. My first SuSE distro was 9.3 [ had 9.0 for a VERY short time about three years ago or so. ] SaX had a LOT more usability back then than either 10.0 or 10.1. Now you have to use the settings it gives or else.
I lost my system Saturday night trying to change the resolution on my monitor. These poor old eyes just ain't up to those super high resolutions. I was having to go to 22 and 24 for font sizes to get them barely big enough to see.
I don't like sax2 GUI neither :-( but it's easily fixed with any text editor (For example vi). As root, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere you have: Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection (...) SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection look at the "default" number and edit the given section. Write the definition you want _first_ on the line (modes "640x480" ... for example), then logout (may be reboot or do init 1 init 5) to have the new config. and you should be able to change from one value to the other using "Alt Ctrl grey+" from the keyboard if it's only once
with, what I consider, THE ultimate backup utility. It will create bootable ISO cd/DVD's of the entire system. It would be nice to have that ability
look up google for "mondo/mindi" problem is with the so hudge dosks we have now, backing up all is awkward
Why can't the instructions be "SIMPLE". There are people out here that aren't geeks, nerds or guru's.
we try to do this on the wiki. original instructions are made by the programmer, a good programmer is not necessarily a good teacher :-(
web pages. Do my e-mail. Surf the web. AND spend way to much money on eBay. I could use a little more simplicity to get things to work here.
it's the price to pay for safety and stability. unfrequent things can be done as root, day to day works should not
it's slow going. Be damned if I will give up on it. Just ignore my rants.
no. but if you find a solution, writing it to the wiki should be enough reward for us, thanks AND, keep your answers simple enough for an idiot to follow. I
WILL get there eventually.
If I didn't have computers to drive me nuts, I'd have to take up golf.
this can drive you nuts also :-)
eMachine 3506 3.5 GHz Dual Core Celeron 1 Gig Windows XP only *<[:op [ Don't know if I will use the Vista upgrade or not Wonder what it would bring on eBay. *<[:oD ]
better not, not powerfull enough :-) needs upgrading :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Billie Erin Walsh a écrit :
Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ] When I can get the other computers on the network to see the Linux box at all it asks for an access password. I only have two setting on this box. Root and "user" [ me].
may be more a windows problem than linux one?
but, just in case, did you setup samba properly? samba is the windows file server for linux.
I guess I hadn't up till I mailed out the e-mail. At about the same time I was messing with some of the settings through the KDE>System> <something> and now it works just like a dream. Sure hope I can figure out what I did in case I have to do it again.
after that, all depends of the windows version. I bet you must have passwd enabled on windows (but don't know how you can do that)
No password needed with Windows. Just have to tell it what to share. Did notice one strange thing. In Windows the default home network name is MSHOME. OK, plug that into Samba. BINGO, there it is. BUT, when I'm looking back at SuSE from Windows it's on "Tuxnet". In case anyone is wondering why I want this setup. Sometimes I'm cruising around and run across something I want to try in Windows. If I download to the Linux box it's a pain to get over to Windows. If I try to find the exact page in Windows it's a pain because I use one monitor, keyboard and mouse, through a KVM switch, on both computers. Saves on desktop real estate that way.
SaX2 Should be renamed sUx2. My first SuSE distro was 9.3 [ had 9.0 for a VERY short time about three years ago or so. ] SaX had a LOT more
I don't like sax2 GUI neither :-(
but it's easily fixed with any text editor (For example vi). As root, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere you have:
Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection (...) SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection
look at the "default" number and edit the given section. Write the definition you want _first_ on the line (modes "640x480" ... for example), then logout (may be reboot or do init 1 init 5) to have the new config.
and you should be able to change from one value to the other using "Alt Ctrl grey+" from the keyboard if it's only once
May burrow down to that and see what I can figure out. Right now I have it working pretty well. Not with the regular settings for this monitor, but with some generic settings.
with, what I consider, THE ultimate backup utility. It will create bootable ISO cd/DVD's of the entire system. It would be nice to have that ability
look up google for "mondo/mindi"
Found them on opensuse download site. Will have to do a little research to see what they do and how.
problem is with the so hudge dosks we have now, backing up all is awkward
My whole SuSE 10.0 setup was only about 10 gig. AND if I had cleaned out the download folder would have been less. I guess I'm not a "power user". I've never been able to fill a 40 gig hard drive.
Why can't the instructions be "SIMPLE". There are people out here that aren't geeks, nerds or guru's.
we try to do this on the wiki. original instructions are made by the programmer, a good programmer is not necessarily a good teacher :-(
I agree. Most of the answers I see seem to be pretty straight forward [ did kibitz for a while before I posted ]. MY, problem is that I'm not to swift with CLI commands. Still pretty much Greek to me.
eMachine 3506 3.5 GHz Dual Core Celeron 1 Gig Windows XP only *<[:op [ Don't know if I will use the Vista upgrade or not Wonder what it would bring on eBay. *<[:oD ]
better not, not powerfull enough :-) needs upgrading :-)
According to Microsoft all that's "required" is an 800 MHz processor, 512 meg memory, and 15 gig hard drive space. eMachine suggests 1 gig memory. Which means, probably 1.5 gig for an "acceptable" performance level. That's in the works.
jdd
Anyway, thanks for the response. I'll give this a try. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 December 2006 21:54, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
Just wanted to say "Hi", and a few other things to. Hi, and welcome.
I've been seriously trying to use SuSE for about a year, so I'm still VERY much a newbie. I tried a few other distro's before I settled on SuSE. For the most part SuSE does a superb job of setting up. Which other distros did you try, and why did you stay with Suse?
Now for the downsides of what I'm having trouble with: ... ok,
Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ] You have my sincere sympathy... I struggled along in that mode for more than a couple of years and finally made the clean break... only Linux.... I still keep an XP partition around for support issues (usually someone in my extended family) and as a reminder why I'll never use it again.
When I can get the other computers on the network to see the Linux box at all it asks for an access password. I only have two setting on this box. Root and "user" [ me]. Neither will work to give me access. When I try going the other way I get asked for a password. None of the Windows computers have access passwords set. You will probably need to configure Samba... until I made the complete switch-over I kept archive documents on my XP box and shared them across the Linux boxes using SMB (works well).
SaX2 Should be renamed sUx2. Whoa, not so fast... SaX2 is actually very impressive... all things taken into account. What you will really want to do... one of the things you will really want to indulge in... seriously... is learning how xorg.conf is setup and how to make manual changes with either emacs or vim, or some other cool editor. SaX2 will get you into the ballpark... and much of the time its just right on the money too... but if you need to do some tweaking... well, you have control over xorg.conf. (... not going to happen in XP... or, Vi$ta...)
I lost my system Saturday night trying to change the resolution on my monitor. These poor old eyes just ain't up to those super high resolutions. I was having to go to 22 and 24 for font sizes to get them barely big enough to see. heh. me too. I'm forever hitting Ctrl + in Firefox to make the text about 1st grade scale... I just quit fighting the problem... had the Doc make me a pair of reading specs for 27" and then I make those fonts huge... works very well... being 50+ is so cool... B--)
Suggestion to whomever We just bought a couple new eMachines at <snip> half of my boxes are e-machines... they take a little patience (they are optimized for windoze) but they do work very well with Suse... (haven't tried 10.2 yet....)
On the subject of the eMachines Stupid damn things have ATI Radion Xpress video cards. ... sounds like its time to build yourself a system... seriously... its fun, relatively inexpensive, and you can put whatever hardware you choose in it...
Why can't the instructions be "SIMPLE". There are people out here that aren't geeks, nerds or guru's. I'd like to take a stab at this... in the spirit of good will and the advancement of computer science among the masses... An over-simplified viewpoint finds two kinds of personal computer users in general... 1) those who see their system as an appliance (like the phone, toaster, DVD player, electric toothbrush... you get the idea), and 2) those who recognize and appreciate that their personal computer is an infinitely configurable system--- a veritable wonderland of opportunities for adventure, discovery, conquest, and just plain fun... hence Suse's, "Have lots of fun!" So, the system needs to satisfy both of those users... Linux does that very well, and Suse does it even better than that. See... windoze has the appliance aspect of the system down... except that the user typically has to live with application constraints that are less than desireable. Suse Linux also has the appliance side of things well in hand... but under the covers the user... (the owner of the system) still has the raw control over anything and everything they care to learn about. In other words, for them, the system is still a general purpose computer capable of being transformed "freely" into whatever our hearts desire. The instructions will "become" easier for you the longer you work with them. Very shortly you will be far enough along the learning curve that things will start making sense and the instructions will become surprisingly easier... hang in there and don't give up... it will be a rewarding experience... really.
Permissions These things are driving me nuts. Again... stay with it... permissions in *nix are one of the primary reasons that Linux does not require anti-virus and spy-sweep software... there are other reasons too, of course, but the permissions of *nix are beauty babe... pure beauty.
Enough of a rant for now. I DO like SuSE. After a year+ Excellent.
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On Tuesday 12 December 2006 22:09, M Harris wrote:
Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ]
You have my sincere sympathy... I struggled along in that mode for more than a couple of years and finally made the clean break... only Linux.... I still keep an XP partition around for support issues (usually someone in my extended family) and as a reminder why I'll never use it again.
I'll probably get blasted for this, but I just had to vent.... Yesterday at work - after some discussion - we decided to give the *Nuke portal items a try. I had used PostNuke and PHPNuke in the past but never seriously. Being that we're developing a Wintendo-based system on .NET, one of my main programmers suggested we try DotNetNuke for an internal support portal. There is an add-on which mostly fits our needs, and being open source, we can modify. I went about installing it on my WinXP system. An hour later - after installing IIS (I was using Apache on the workstation), updating SQL Server, adding the .NET 2.0 framework (I had 1.1 on the system) and then having to figure which account needed permissions to the ASP.NET service in order to swich DotNetNuke to the correct framework and finally editing accounts manually using the VisualStudio commandline (and not the regular command line, I get it... ...not working correctly. Meanwhile I've installed PostNuke on my SUSE laptop in about five minutes. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 05:04 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
Meanwhile I've installed PostNuke on my SUSE laptop in about five minutes.
Yeah. Use Windows. It's easier... -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
M Harris wrote:
On Monday 11 December 2006 21:54, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
Just wanted to say "Hi", and a few other things to. Hi, and welcome.
Thank You.
I've been seriously trying to use SuSE for about a year, so I'm still VERY much a newbie. I tried a few other distro's before I settled on SuSE. For the most part SuSE does a superb job of setting up. Which other distros did you try, and why did you stay with Suse?
Well, I tried SuSE 9.0, just about the time 9.1 came out I think it was. I don't know. Just got depressed trying to figure it all out so I quit it for a while. Joined some mail lists and did a lot of kibitzing. Mepis, Simply Linux, really quite nice. Of Debian decent I believe. Not sure why I didn't stay with it but I was experimenting so I moved on. Some of the configuration stuff isn't/wasn't quite as slick as SuSE. Mandrake/Mandriva. Don't recall what version, but it was about the time of the name change. SuSE 9.3. Liked this one. Used it for a while. PCLinux. It's nice but I wasn't terribly impressed. Ubuntu Genealogy Live Disk. Never "installed" this one. You really can't get much of a feel for something from the live CD. Seemed ok, but again I wasn't all that impressed. SuSE 10.0. Actually downloaded this one on the night it was posted. Pretty unusual for me because I don't usually jump in on the "newest and greatest" of anything. Let it set for a while till they get some of the bugs worked out. Stuck with it. SuSE 10.1. Downloaded it on about the last few days it was available. Over Thanksgiving weekend. That's what I've got running right now. Seriously contemplating 10.2 after New Years Why did I stick with SuSE. I don't know really. I guess it just impressed me more than the others. I like it. It does what I want, most of the time *<[:oS and it really "WORKS" for me. Actually, when I first started thinking serious about breaking free of Mr. Gates empire I was told that SuSE was probably the best to start out with. I REALLY think it was pretty good advice. If I remember right Red Hat was the second choice. I never got around to trying Red Hat.
Now for the downsides of what I'm having trouble with: ... ok,
Home networking. [Four+ windows computers and my SuSE 10.1 ] You have my sincere sympathy... I struggled along in that mode for more than
Three of the Windows machines aren't "mine". Two are Tracie's, my better half, and the other is my mom's. Then throw in the various laptops, and computers I'm "fixing" for the kids..................Sometimes there's eight or ten running somewhere in the house.Until I get MUCH better with Linux I wouldn't think of trying to migrate any of the others over. Besides Tracie HAS to have Windows for her work at home job.
When I can get the other computers on the network to see the Linux box
You will probably need to configure Samba... until I made the complete switch-over I kept archive documents on my XP box and shared them across the Linux boxes using SMB (works well).
I did "something" right for a change. It now works just fine. Not sure what, but...................... Take 2. I just flipped over to the other desktop and tried the network thing. Samba says there's nothing there. It was working before I left for work this morning. *<[:o( Looks like my setup isn't "sticking" for some reason. Have to work on it some more.
SaX2 Should be renamed sUx2. Whoa, not so fast... SaX2 is actually very impressive... all things taken into account. What you will really want to do... one of the things you will really want to indulge in... seriously... is learning how xorg.conf is setup and how to make manual changes with either emacs or vim, or some other cool editor. SaX2 will get you into the ballpark... and much of the time its just right on the money too... but if you need to do some tweaking... well, you have control over xorg.conf. (... not going to happen in XP... or, Vi$ta...)
In 9.0 and 9.3 the setup screens had much more information on them. Much easier to change the configuration settings. Resolutions, refresh rates etc. Now with these generic settings I have a distinct flicker. I think the refresh rate is now about 60 and it should be about 75 for this monitor.10.0 I think I noticed the change in the SaX configuration utility. It would ALWAYS set this monitor up wrong on the install, but no biggie. Just pop up SaX from failsafe mode and it would pop open it's little low res screen and come back with the proper settings. Hit the "Okiedokie" button to save that configuration and it was up and running. In 10.1 it tries to use the "bad" settings to run in. Not much help there if all you get are squiggly little lines back and forth across the screen, or a black screen.
I lost my system Saturday night trying to change the resolution on my monitor. These poor old eyes just ain't up to those super high resolutions. I was having to go to 22 and 24 for font sizes to get them barely big enough to see. heh. me too. I'm forever hitting Ctrl + in Firefox to make the text about 1st grade scale... I just quit fighting the problem... had the Doc make me a pair of reading specs for 27" and then I make those fonts huge... works very well... being 50+ is so cool... B--)
Yeah, right. *<[:oD
Suggestion to whomever We just bought a couple new eMachines at <snip> half of my boxes are e-machines... they take a little patience (they are optimized for windoze) but they do work very well with Suse... (haven't tried 10.2 yet....)
It's just that @&%$(*&!@##$^&$#(*!@ ATI video card that's the problem. The drivers don't work. If I could use the settings for the setup screens.........................those don't look half bad...........
On the subject of the eMachines Stupid damn things have ATI Radion Xpress video cards. ... sounds like its time to build yourself a system... seriously... its fun, relatively inexpensive, and you can put whatever hardware you choose in it...
Up until these last two box's we usually did do our own. Just made to good a deal to pass up on them. Bought them for less than we could build them.
Why can't the instructions be "SIMPLE". There are people out here that aren't geeks, nerds or guru's. I'd like to take a stab at this... in the spirit of good will and the advancement of computer science among the masses... An over-simplified viewpoint finds two kinds of personal computer users in general... 1) those who see their system as an appliance (like the phone, toaster, DVD player, electric toothbrush... you get the idea), and 2) those who recognize and appreciate that their personal computer is an infinitely configurable system--- a veritable wonderland of opportunities for adventure, discovery, conquest, and just plain fun... hence Suse's, "Have lots of fun!"
I'm sorry to say that most of the time my computer is more in the appliance mode.
So, the system needs to satisfy both of those users... Linux does that very well, and Suse does it even better than that. See... windoze has the appliance aspect of the system down... except that the user typically has to live with application constraints that are less than desireable. Suse Linux also has the appliance side of things well in hand... but under the covers the user... (the owner of the system) still has the raw control over anything and everything they care to learn about. In other words, for them, the system is still a general purpose computer capable of being transformed "freely" into whatever our hearts desire.
A friend of mine once made the statement that AOL is the Internet with training wheels. Taking that one step further I guess Windows is your computer with training wheels.
The instructions will "become" easier for you the longer you work with them. Very shortly you will be far enough along the learning curve that things will start making sense and the instructions will become surprisingly easier... hang in there and don't give up... it will be a rewarding experience... really.
I do need to spend more time on the CLI side of things. When I got my first computer, PC rather than some of the others I've had, I found a rather simplified "dictionary" of DOS commands. Printed it off and spent a LOT of time just trying everything. For some reason it seems like I had more time free back then. Anyway, something like that would be nice to find for Linux CLI. Something not written in "programmer" but in plain English.
Permissions These things are driving me nuts. Again... stay with it... permissions in *nix are one of the primary reasons that Linux does not require anti-virus and spy-sweep software... there are other reasons too, of course, but the permissions of *nix are beauty babe... pure beauty.
I understand the why's and stuff. It's just that every time I try to do something I run face first into the "permissions wall". Then it takes me a while to figure out what needs to happen to get access to something. Thanks to a LOT of helpful people it's getting better.
Enough of a rant for now. I DO like SuSE. After a year+ Excellent.
Geeez, I didn't intend to write a book. BUT, I do want to say thanks to all those really super SuSE/Linux people that work so hard to try to help newbies like me. I do appreciate it. I'm not JUST posting. Google Linux is my friend also. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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