[opensuse] Accessing Build Service Packages via YaST in openSUSE 10.2?
Hi, I cannot seem to find the answers to these on the en.opensuse.org site: 1) Can I access the Build Service via openSUSE's 10.2 YaST "Installation Source" and "Software Management" modules? 2) If the answer to (1) is "yes," what URLs do I use as installation sources? 3) If the answer to (1) is "no," is there anything short of completely manual package management? This would seem to make updating to packages that are part of large, interdependent sets, (say, KDE updates) very tedious. Does it imply that one has to manually retrieve the packages and run RPM? 4) Are there mirrors of the Build Service repository(ies)? Thanks. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Le mercredi 13 décembre 2006 17:50, Randall R Schulz a écrit :
1) Can I access the Build Service via openSUSE's 10.2 YaST "Installation Source" and "Software Management" modules?
2) If the answer to (1) is "yes," what URLs do I use as installation sources?
3) If the answer to (1) is "no," is there anything short of completely manual package management? This would seem to make updating to packages that are part of large, interdependent sets, (say, KDE updates) very tedious. Does it imply that one has to manually retrieve the packages and run RPM?
Whether the answer is yes or no, I strongly suggest using Smart. It's doing everything you mention above. I've been using it throughout the whole 10.1 lifetime, and now on 10.2, it's really simple and powerful. I agree that it is possible to make mistakes, but if you check what's going to be done before clicking "OK", you should be fine. -- Thibaut Cousin http://www.thibaut-cousin.net
http://software.opensuse.org/download has the projects. Browse to your project and add it to your sources, e.g.: http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.2/ Regards, Daniel
Le mercredi 13 décembre 2006 17:50, Randall R Schulz a écrit :
1) Can I access the Build Service via openSUSE's 10.2 YaST "Installation Source" and "Software Management" modules?
2) If the answer to (1) is "yes," what URLs do I use as installation sources?
3) If the answer to (1) is "no," is there anything short of completely manual package management? This would seem to make updating to packages that are part of large, interdependent sets, (say, KDE updates) very tedious. Does it imply that one has to manually retrieve the packages and run RPM?
Whether the answer is yes or no, I strongly suggest using Smart. It's doing everything you mention above. I've been using it throughout the whole 10.1 lifetime, and now on 10.2, it's really simple and powerful. I agree that it is possible to make mistakes, but if you check what's going to be done before clicking "OK", you should be fine.
-- Daniel Bornkessel Tel: +49 911 740 53 161 Novell :: SUSE R&D :: Internal Tools / Java Packaging ______________________________________________________________________ Key fingerprint = 9012 D34F D3E1 FB50 BF89 FD04 8E19 8831 FFBB 7369
Daniel, On Wednesday 13 December 2006 10:02, Daniel Bornkessel wrote:
http://software.opensuse.org/download has the projects. Browse to your project and add it to your sources, e.g.:
http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.2/
Regards, Daniel
Thanks. That leaves or creates a few more questions: 1) Is there any less fragmented / more unified form of those packages? Or must I create an installation source for every individual category of packages with which I might wish to stay most up-to-date? 2) Are there any mirrors? Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Randall R Schulz
That leaves or creates a few more questions:
1) Is there any less fragmented / more unified form of those packages? Or must I create an installation source for every individual category of packages with which I might wish to stay most up-to-date?
:^( Yes
2) Are there any mirrors?
many, see the suse ftp mirrors. I believe that it has been moved to opensuse.org/.... -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick, On Wednesday 13 December 2006 11:10, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Randall R Schulz
[12-13-06 13:27]: That leaves or creates a few more questions:
1) Is there any less fragmented / more unified form of those packages? Or must I create an installation source for every individual category of packages with which I might wish to stay most up-to-date?
:^( Yes
I take it that's "yes," I have to configure each category of build service packages separately?
2) Are there any mirrors?
many, see the suse ftp mirrors. I believe that it has been moved to opensuse.org/....
I'm really having trouble sorting all this stuff out. Are there mirrors of the build service distinct from the mirrors of the final release packages? Or are they integrated? The Build Service page (http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service) does not mention mirrors. The mirrors page (http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Development_Build) seems only to refer (link) to release repositories.
-- Patrick Shanahan
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Randall R Schulz
I take it that's "yes," I have to configure each category of build service packages separately?
each 'repo' directory
I'm really having trouble sorting all this stuff out. Are there mirrors of the build service distinct from the mirrors of the final release packages? Or are they integrated?
some of the mirrors do not include anything but the SUSE distro, ie: not packman, guru or other contributors. AND some do not follow the same directory structure. I use: http://ftp.belnet.be http://ftp-1.gwdg.de http://ftp.skynet.be for packman: http://packman.inode.at/suse/10.1/ http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.1/ http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.1/RPMS/ from 10.0 to 10.1, it seems that directory structure was changed much more than from 9.? -> 10.0. From what I have seen 10.2 is nearly the same as 10.1. I am ready to install 10.2, just waiting for an opportune moment or a fit of disgust, which I haven't had since I finally 10.1 solidified. I used apt on the 9.? series, but have switched to smart. They are quite similar (imho). I believe that smart still has a ways to go but is less system demanding than yast. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
That leaves or creates a few more questions:
1) Is there any less fragmented / more unified form of those packages? Or must I create an installation source for every individual category of packages with which I might wish to stay most up-to-date?
You must add each category separately (you wouldn't want the wait to update if all were included, not the instability introduced from all those different sources).
2) Are there any mirrors?
software.opensuse.org has a redirector, which may actually grab from many of the mirrors without hard coding the mirror's URL. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Daniel Bornkessel
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Joe Morris (NTM)
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Patrick Shanahan
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Randall R Schulz
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Thibaut Cousin