[opensuse] Firewall/routes rules GUI
I just checked out IT guy setting up routes and firewall rules on its Win2003 servers - really have come a long way - nice GUI with click, dropdown of machines/people/groups (ala ActiveDir). Dont get me wrong, I never touch the stuff, but its getting really difficult to argue Linux firewall, routing, print and file servers to the Win IT guy - there is just not anything (that I know of) that comes close to the ease of use (setting up routes and firewall rules especially). Can someone point me to something? At the moment all ammo I have is that Win is expensive and locks you into the Win platform (which is a point at out shop, seeing everything is already win based). E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 07:58 +0000, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
At the moment all ammo I have is that Win is expensive and locks you into the Win platform (which is a point at out shop, seeing everything is already win based).
How is software amortised in your shop? What kind of percentage of costs w.r.t. general operating costs does it make out? In big shops, it may be a small part and then there is no real incentive to cut these costs. I converted our 9 servers to SUSE, because we are a very small shop of 30 people. We have 2 DRBD and Heartbeat HA clusters, which would be quite expensive for us on an equivalent MS base. I am now using OpenSUSE 10.2, and looking at converting some SLES 9 servers also to OpenSUSE 10.2. DRBD works quite well on SUSE 10.0 since Feb 2006. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 07:58 +0000, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just checked out IT guy setting up routes and firewall rules on its Win2003 servers - really have come a long way - nice GUI with click, dropdown of machines/people/groups (ala ActiveDir). Dont get me wrong, I never touch the stuff, but its getting really difficult to argue Linux firewall, routing, print and file servers to the Win IT guy - there is just not anything (that I know of) that comes close to the ease of use (setting up routes and firewall rules especially).
Can someone point me to something?
Have your IT guy look at Firewall Builder www.fwbuilder.org or SmoothWall www.smoothwall.org. Lots of my Windows friends run smoothwall and love it. HTH James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 21:13 -0400, James P. Bland wrote:
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 07:58 +0000, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just checked out IT guy setting up routes and firewall rules on its Win2003 servers - really have come a long way - nice GUI with click, dropdown of machines/people/groups (ala ActiveDir). Dont get me wrong, I never touch the stuff, but its getting really difficult to argue Linux firewall, routing, print and file servers to the Win IT guy - there is just not anything (that I know of) that comes close to the ease of use (setting up routes and firewall rules especially).
Can someone point me to something?
Have your IT guy look at Firewall Builder www.fwbuilder.org or SmoothWall www.smoothwall.org. Lots of my Windows friends run smoothwall and love it.
HTH James
Thx, ye I know about these, but really go take a look at the new Win2003 firewall config builder - I think the OSS community should take note and impl something similar (cant be hard to do, fwbuilder can be made to look like it I think) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Thx, ye I know about these, but really go take a look at the new Win2003 firewall config builder - I think the OSS community should take note and impl something similar (cant be hard to do, fwbuilder can be made to look like it I think) I am not familiar with the Win2003 firewall config builder but I am familiar with the pain of trying to learn/use fwbuilder. I was trying to use it for Solaris 10. I tinkered for a while before I discovered that it wasn't really compatible (at that time) with Solaris 10. I saw this thread and got a little excited because I too wish there was an easy to use firewall config tool. At this point I am back to using SuSEfirewall2 because it is the only thing I have learned adequately.
Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Damon Register wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Thx, ye I know about these, but really go take a look at the new Win2003 firewall config builder - I think the OSS community should take note and impl something similar (cant be hard to do, fwbuilder can be made to look like it I think)
I am not familiar with the Win2003 firewall config builder but I am familiar with the pain of trying to learn/use fwbuilder. I was trying to use it for Solaris 10. I tinkered for a while before I discovered that it wasn't really compatible (at that time) with Solaris 10. I saw this thread and got a little excited because I too wish there was an easy to use firewall config tool. At this point I am back to using SuSEfirewall2 because it is the only thing I have learned adequately.
Damon Register
Hi . If you want a Firewall that is easy to install and manage and have a spare machine to run it on then Smoothwall is real easy to install and config it does not need much in the way of system have it running on an old P100 with 256 Mb ram you only need a monitor and keyboard connected for the install and initial setup then you can loose them ( Used to use BBiagent but they have not answered the last dozen or so attempts at contacting them ) Pete . -- This message originated from a Linux computer using Open Source software: SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha2. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:19 +0100, peter nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Damon Register wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Thx, ye I know about these, but really go take a look at the new Win2003 firewall config builder - I think the OSS community should take note and impl something similar (cant be hard to do, fwbuilder can be made to look like it I think)
I am not familiar with the Win2003 firewall config builder but I am familiar with the pain of trying to learn/use fwbuilder. I was trying to use it for Solaris 10. I tinkered for a while before I discovered that it wasn't really compatible (at that time) with Solaris 10. I saw this thread and got a little excited because I too wish there was an easy to use firewall config tool. At this point I am back to using SuSEfirewall2 because it is the only thing I have learned adequately.
Damon Register
Hi .
If you want a Firewall that is easy to install and manage and have a spare machine to run it on then Smoothwall is real easy to install and config it does not need much in the way of system have it running on an old P100 with 256 Mb ram you only need a monitor and keyboard connected for the install and initial setup then you can loose them ( Used to use BBiagent but they have not answered the last dozen or so attempts at contacting them )
Pete .
Smoothwall is great - but something like it as "normal" app on server will be great (this is basically what Win2003 got) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
**Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:19 +0100, peter nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Damon Register wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Thx, ye I know about these, but really go take a look at the new Win2003 firewall config builder - I think the OSS community should take note and impl something similar (cant be hard to do, fwbuilder can be made to look like it I think)
I am not familiar with the Win2003 firewall config builder but I am familiar with the pain of trying to learn/use fwbuilder. I was trying to use it for Solaris 10. I tinkered for a while before I discovered that it wasn't really compatible (at that time) with Solaris 10. I saw this thread and got a little excited because I too wish there was an easy to use firewall config tool. At this point I am back to using SuSEfirewall2 because it is the only thing I have learned adequately.
Damon Register
Hi .
If you want a Firewall that is easy to install and manage and have a spare machine to run it on then Smoothwall is real easy to install and config it does not need much in the way of system have it running on an old P100 with 256 Mb ram you only need a monitor and keyboard connected for the install and initial setup then you can loose them ( Used to use BBiagent but they have not answered the last dozen or so attempts at contacting them )
Pete .
Smoothwall is great - but something like it as "normal" app on server will be great (this is basically what Win2003 got)
I guess you could look at Webmin's "*Linux Firewall" module http://www.webmin.com/standard.html I don't know of a GTK or Qt equivalent.* -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 14:45 +0100, Russell Jones wrote:
**Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:19 +0100, peter nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Damon Register wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Thx, ye I know about these, but really go take a look at the new Win2003 firewall config builder - I think the OSS community should take note and impl something similar (cant be hard to do, fwbuilder can be made to look like it I think)
I am not familiar with the Win2003 firewall config builder but I am familiar with the pain of trying to learn/use fwbuilder. I was trying to use it for Solaris 10. I tinkered for a while before I discovered that it wasn't really compatible (at that time) with Solaris 10. I saw this thread and got a little excited because I too wish there was an easy to use firewall config tool. At this point I am back to using SuSEfirewall2 because it is the only thing I have learned adequately.
Damon Register
Hi .
If you want a Firewall that is easy to install and manage and have a spare machine to run it on then Smoothwall is real easy to install and config it does not need much in the way of system have it running on an old P100 with 256 Mb ram you only need a monitor and keyboard connected for the install and initial setup then you can loose them ( Used to use BBiagent but they have not answered the last dozen or so attempts at contacting them )
Pete .
Smoothwall is great - but something like it as "normal" app on server will be great (this is basically what Win2003 got)
I guess you could look at Webmin's "*Linux Firewall" module http://www.webmin.com/standard.html
I don't know of a GTK or Qt equivalent.*
Havent looked at webmin in years - will check it out thanks. Is the icons still as ugly? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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