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Pueblo Native

14 May 2007 14 May '07

12:30

I guess there was a poison pill in those patents we pilfered: http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php Alliterations aside, the only "myth" is in Hilf's own brain. There may be some developers out there who wore tye-dye t-shirts, travel in Winnebago vans, and had a taste for the tree, but there were just as many buttoned up developers that have never listened to the Grateful Dead once. And I love this line from that article: Hilf said that the Linux phenomenon had nothing to do with Linux, but rather it had a lot to do with Apache, MySQL and PHP. It was those applications which pulled Linux up with it, the "Visual Basic of open source." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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G T Smith

14 May 14 May

16:05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pueblo Native wrote:

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I guess there was a poison pill in those patents we pilfered:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php

Alliterations aside, the only "myth" is in Hilf's own brain. There may

Having read link, my thought is this surely should read 'the myth is Hilfs own brain' :-)

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be some developers out there who wore tye-dye t-shirts, travel in Winnebago vans, and had a taste for the tree, but there were just as many buttoned up developers that have never listened to the Grateful Dead once.

And I love this line from that article: Hilf said that the Linux phenomenon had nothing to do with Linux, but rather it had a lot to do with Apache, MySQL and PHP. It was those applications which pulled Linux up with it, the "Visual Basic of open source."

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Dave Barton

22:08

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

-------- Original Message -------- From: G T Smith Date: Tue 15 May 2007 02:05:31 EST Graham, You sign your posts to this list a with key ID 0x29CB9A02 but I cannot find your public key on the keyservers. Have you exported this key to any keyserver? Dave

G T Smith

15 May 15 May

09:25

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- From: G T Smith Date: Tue 15 May 2007 02:05:31 EST

Graham,

You sign your posts to this list a with key ID 0x29CB9A02 but I cannot find your public key on the keyservers. Have you exported this key to any keyserver?

Dave

Exported to (random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de) about a week ago after someone else reported a problem... On checking I find that this keyserver is listed here ... http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html (or at least the sks.keyserver.penguin.de bit) as a dead server.... I did check the key after I initially uploaded it, but it now seems to have gone AWOL... reloaded key somewhere else, and it seems to be OK. I will keep an eye this, and if it gives me (or anyone else) any more grief I am just going to bin the whole idea... The whole things seems to be little half baked anyway... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGSXx4asN0sSnLmgIRAg0iAKDRshYVbh+GZ05ruo61T5PdupbC7gCdG1Gx TpusDDNixotdaorKbSd9itg= =0J+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

10:01

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying) From: G T Smith To: SuSE Users List Date: Tue 15 May 2007 19:25:12 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- From: G T Smith Date: Tue 15 May 2007 02:05:31 EST

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Graham,

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You sign your posts to this list a with key ID 0x29CB9A02 but I cannot find your public key on the keyservers. Have you exported this key to any keyserver?

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Dave

Exported to (random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de) about a week ago after someone else reported a problem... On checking I find that this keyserver is listed here ...

http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html

(or at least the sks.keyserver.penguin.de bit) as a dead server.... I did check the key after I initially uploaded it, but it now seems to have gone AWOL... reloaded key somewhere else, and it seems to be OK.

I will keep an eye this, and if it gives me (or anyone else) any more grief I am just going to bin the whole idea... The whole things seems to be little half baked anyway...

Looks like it's come good, so no need to bin it. This is what I get from the keyservers. OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from G T Smith Key ID: 0x29CB9A02 / Signed on: 05/15/2007 07:25 PM Key fingerprint: 6D68 9CD6 6BDD 3851 EACB 1DA3 6AC3 74B1 29CB 9A02 Dave

G T Smith

16 May 16 May

08:46

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying) From: G T Smith To: SuSE Users List Date: Tue 15 May 2007 19:25:12 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- From: G T Smith Date: Tue 15 May 2007 02:05:31 EST Graham, You sign your posts to this list a with key ID 0x29CB9A02 but I cannot find your public key on the keyservers. Have you exported this key to any keyserver? Dave

Exported to (random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de) about a week ago after someone else reported a problem... On checking I find that this keyserver is listed here ...

http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html

(or at least the sks.keyserver.penguin.de bit) as a dead server.... I did check the key after I initially uploaded it, but it now seems to have gone AWOL... reloaded key somewhere else, and it seems to be OK.

I will keep an eye this, and if it gives me (or anyone else) any more grief I am just going to bin the whole idea... The whole things seems to be little half baked anyway...

Looks like it's come good, so no need to bin it. This is what I get from the keyservers.

OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from G T Smith Key ID: 0x29CB9A02 / Signed on: 05/15/2007 07:25 PM Key fingerprint: 6D68 9CD6 6BDD 3851 EACB 1DA3 6AC3 74B1 29CB 9A02

Dave

Thanks for letting me know. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGSsTsasN0sSnLmgIRAqwlAJ4oA2sWvrPyYXvmeet9yu62k2xF1gCg48yt Cwcd+HDsR5NWMDWNZoOA5wI= =4QSQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

15 May 15 May

10:32

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

On Tue May 15 2007 05:25, G T Smith wrote:

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I will keep an eye this, and if it gives me (or anyone else) any more grief I am just going to bin the whole idea... The whole things seems to be little half baked anyway...

Hi Graham, There's nothing stopping you from disseminating your public key to several globally distributed keyservers during the same period. It speeds up propagation and, to the best of my knowledge, does no harm. FWIW, shortly after getting it all working, I *did* stop signing e-mails by default to minimize my bandwidth 'footprint' and 'clutter' in the archives (ditto sigs, btw.) It's nice to have the key working and available for circumstances that warrant it, though. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sean Rima

17:07

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:08:14 +1000 Dave Barton wrote:

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You sign your posts to this list a with key ID 0x29CB9A02 but I cannot find your public key on the keyservers. Have you exported this key to any keyserver?

Saying that neither is yours :) Sean -- Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong

Dave Barton

22:27

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

-------- Original Message -------- From: Sean Rima Date: Wed 16 May 2007 03:07:47 EST

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:08:14 +1000 Dave Barton wrote:

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You sign your posts to this list a with key ID 0x29CB9A02 but I cannot find your public key on the keyservers. Have you exported this key to any keyserver?

Saying that neither is yours :)

Sean

That's interesting, I can find my key on a number of servers. Which keyservers are you searching? Dave

Sean Rima

22:52

New subject: [opensuse] Public Key? (WAS First we're stealing, now we're dying)

On Wed, 16 May 2007 08:27:07 +1000 Dave Barton wrote:

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Saying that neither is yours :)

Sean

That's interesting, I can find my key on a number of servers. Which keyservers are you searching?

Strange yours just turned up. I mainly use pramberger Sean -- Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong

Russell Jones

16 May 16 May

09:21

New subject: [opensuse] First we're stealing, now we're dying [OT]

Pueblo Native wrote:

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I guess there was a poison pill in those patents we pilfered:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php

Alliterations aside, the only "myth" is in Hilf's own brain. There may be some developers out there who wore tye-dye t-shirts, travel in Winnebago vans, and had a taste for the tree, but there were just as many buttoned up developers that have never listened to the Grateful Dead once.

And I love this line from that article: Hilf said that the Linux phenomenon had nothing to do with Linux, but rather it had a lot to do with Apache, MySQL and PHP. It was those applications which pulled Linux up with it, the "Visual Basic of open source."

Look, I'm happy for people to speculate until the cows come home, but please mark non-technical posts as [OT] or take them to the OT list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

15:07

New subject: [opensuse] First we're stealing, now we're dying [OT]

* Russell Jones [05-16-07 05:25]:

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Look, I'm happy for people to speculate until the cows come home, but please mark non-technical posts as [OT] or take them to the OT list.

No, the proper action is to take them to the OT list if they are OT. There is no other! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

M Harris

15:18

New subject: [opensuse] First we're stealing, now we're dying [OT]

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Look, I'm happy for people to speculate until the cows come home, but please mark non-technical posts as [OT] or take them to the OT list. Patrick and I already had this talk... and just marking them as [OT] isn't good enough... they got to go to the offtopic list... period. Reason being

On Wednesday 16 May 2007 04:21, Russell Jones wrote: that the signal to noise ratio of the archive is also a factor... not just filtering... -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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