On Saturday 20 October 2007 07:05:09 Fred A. Miller wrote:

Maybe this will help the developers resolve this issue.

And you really think that the responsible developer reads this list!? http://bugs.kde.org/ http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Kai Ponte [10-20-07 15:10]:

On Saturday 20 October 2007 01:44, Stephan Binner wrote:

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And you really think that the responsible developer reads this list!?

http://bugs.kde.org/

Does that make you an irresponsible developer?

I would EXPECT developers and project managers to keep on eye on user lists. How else would they know what the issues are?

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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:15:25 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:

however they should be paying attention in order to know what is going on in the real world.

They don't have the time to do that and aren't paid for doing so. They do read relevant lists like the KDE, binutils, glibc or gcc development lists.

Most people - such as me - wouldn't know the first thing about how to report a bug.

That's why pages like http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports exist. If you want the bug you experience to be noticed by SUSE/Novell developers and other People reponsible for the distribution, you must report it via bugzilla. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

You also don't even have to reload the desktop, just use ctrl-esc to "un-hide" the taskbar, then edit preferences, and toggle the auto-hide to 'refresh' the settings and your immediately back in business. B-) On Sunday 21 October 2007 2:38:16 pm Carlos F Lange wrote:

On Fri October 19 2007 17:01, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Every time you log on as a user, a copy of kickerrc called kickerrc.org (for original) is written. If you loose the taskbar, DON'T logout, but use konq. to delete the kickerrc file and copy the *.org file to kickerrc. Then, ctrl-alt-del to kill the desktop. Relog into your user account and you should be back in business.

You probably mean ctrl+alt+bksp in order to kill your KDE session instantly without saving config files (which could restore the damage).

-- Carlos FL

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