[opensuse] Critical Sound Problem - very deep level - help needed !
hi all ! My uptime in Linux doesn't really go over 2 days... why ? Because there is some very deep driver issue with my audio hardware, VIA 8237 audio. That is when working, my sound system suddenly fails, and starts to produce noise. - the problem is so deep that even "init 6" - full restart doesn't helps ! ! I still hear that noise even in GRUB Bootloader, where should be no sound at all ! ! ! That is very old bug, affecting SUSE Linux 10.0 and maybe earlier... link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263022 Platform: openSUSE 10.2, 32-bit, AMD Sempron, VIA KM400 chipset, VIA 8237 audio, 1GB of RAM. Things that help: -Reboot into Windows, (windows drivers seem to restart my audio hardware) -System shutdown via init 0, and then cold-start any ideas? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/18/07, Alexey Eremenko
hi all !
My uptime in Linux doesn't really go over 2 days... why ?
Because there is some very deep driver issue with my audio hardware, VIA 8237 audio. That is when working, my sound system suddenly fails, and starts to produce noise. - the problem is so deep that even "init 6" - full restart doesn't helps ! !
I still hear that noise even in GRUB Bootloader, where should be no sound at all ! ! !
That is very old bug, affecting SUSE Linux 10.0 and maybe earlier... link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263022
Platform: openSUSE 10.2, 32-bit, AMD Sempron, VIA KM400 chipset, VIA 8237 audio, 1GB of RAM.
Things that help: -Reboot into Windows, (windows drivers seem to restart my audio hardware) -System shutdown via init 0, and then cold-start
any ideas?
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I would suggest downloading the latest beta drivers from the alsa web site. Compiling and installing them to see if that corrects your issue. Otherwise to eliminate further frustration on one of my sound issues I purchased for $16 a sound blaster live card and eliminated the sound card hardware giving me problems. Haven't had an issues since and the $$$ were far less than further frustration and time sorting it out. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Should I move to OSS instead of ALSA completely, for my case ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed 18 April 07 23:06, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Should I move to OSS instead of ALSA completely, for my case ?
I've personally never been able to get it to work, no matter how many hot-to's I went by. Probably not saying much, but it's some input at least, heh. -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed 18 April 07 14:58, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
My uptime in Linux doesn't really go over 2 days... why ?
Because there is some very deep driver issue with my audio hardware, VIA 8237 audio. That is when working, my sound system suddenly fails, and starts to produce noise. - the problem is so deep that even "init 6" - full restart doesn't helps ! !
I still hear that noise even in GRUB Bootloader, where should be no sound at all ! ! !
Not sure if this is the same that happened to me yesterday...I was listening to some .ogg's I'd made from one of my CD's, and decided to play around with kmix (I normally use alsamixergui) to 'tweak' the output a little. I noticed in kmix some things that were 'turned on' that weren't in alsamixergui, so, I clicked on one of them and the next thing I know I've got the sound of three cats fighting coming through my speakers, no music at all, just a nasty screeching, scratchy sound. I rebooted the system, and it was still there. I opened alsamixergui and started looking at things and saw that my 'mic' *and* webcam were turned 'on' to record from. I clicked off the 'mic' and the nasty sound instantly stopped. Unfortunately this is too simple to know what really happened. Maybe though it'll give you an idea where else to look though. I've always hated kmix because it never seemed to do things just as I wanted. YMMV. -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wed, 18 Apr 2007, by al4321@gmail.com:
hi all !
My uptime in Linux doesn't really go over 2 days... why ?
Because there is some very deep driver issue with my audio hardware, VIA 8237 audio. That is when working, my sound system suddenly fails, and starts to produce noise. - the problem is so deep that even "init 6" - full restart doesn't helps ! !
I still hear that noise even in GRUB Bootloader, where should be no sound at all ! ! !
That is very old bug, affecting SUSE Linux 10.0 and maybe earlier... link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263022
Platform: openSUSE 10.2, 32-bit, AMD Sempron, VIA KM400 chipset, VIA 8237 audio, 1GB of RAM.
Things that help: -Reboot into Windows, (windows drivers seem to restart my audio hardware) -System shutdown via init 0, and then cold-start
any ideas?
I have the same audio chipset, no problems here. $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80) [..] 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) Maybe disable and buy another (cheap) soundcard? Sounds like a h/w problem to me. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.18 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Theo, what's your version of sound chip ? do: cat /proc/asound/card0/via82xx -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 April 2007 17:41, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
cat /proc/asound/card0/via82xx
VIA 8237 with VIA1617A at 0xec00, irq 201 00: 06000000 04: 0ffc0000 08: ff3eb333 0c: 00000000 10: 0e0e0000 14: 00000000 18: ff0fffff 1c: 00000000 20: 0e0e0000 24: 00000000 28: ff0fffff 2c: 00000000 30: 0e0e0000 34: 00000000 38: ff0fffff 3c: 00000000 40: 00000000 44: 00000000 48: ff000000 4c: 00000000 50: 00000000 54: 00000000 58: 00000000 5c: 00000000 60: 00000000 64: 00000000 68: ff000000 6c: 00000000 70: 00000000 74: 00000000 78: ff000000 7c: 00000000 80: 02202000 84: 00000000 88: 00000000 8c: 00000000 90: 0000cc01 94: 00000000 98: 00000000 9c: 00000000 It is the same hardware (checked your lspci in bug report) and no sound problems at all. Though I have Microstar motherboard. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fri, 20 Apr 2007, by al4321@gmail.com:
Theo, what's your version of sound chip ?
do: cat /proc/asound/card0/via82xx
$ cat /proc/asound/card0/via82xx VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xe000, irq 177 Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.18 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Theo wrote:
$ cat /proc/asound/card0/via82xx VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xe000, irq 177
head -n1 /proc/asound/card0/via82xx VIA 8237 with VIA1617A at 0xe000, irq 185 Hmmm... the companion chip is different. What VIA1617A is used for? and what VIA 8237 is used for? To Benno: I have not overclocked, and not changed any BIOS settings. Benno, plz do: head -n1 /proc/asound/card0/via82xx -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fri, 20 Apr 2007, by al4321@gmail.com:
Theo wrote:
$ cat /proc/asound/card0/via82xx VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xe000, irq 177
head -n1 /proc/asound/card0/via82xx VIA 8237 with VIA1617A at 0xe000, irq 185
Hmmm... the companion chip is different. What VIA1617A is used for?
The VIA1717A, or AD1980, is the soundchips
and what VIA 8237 is used for?
The 8237 is the chipset responsible for general I/O ('southbridge'). Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.18 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hmmm... the companion chip is different. What VIA1617A is used for?
The VIA1717A, or AD1980, is the soundchips
and what VIA 8237 is used for?
The 8237 is the chipset responsible for general I/O ('southbridge').
OK, and what is AC97 ? Is this = VIA1617A ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fri, 20 Apr 2007, by al4321@gmail.com:
Hmmm... the companion chip is different. What VIA1617A is used for?
The VIA1717A, or AD1980, is the soundchips
and what VIA 8237 is used for?
The 8237 is the chipset responsible for general I/O ('southbridge').
OK, and what is AC97 ? Is this = VIA1617A ?
AC97 is the interface/protocol by which the soundchip gets data from the bus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC97 Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.18 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
OK, back to the problem. How can I help ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fri, 20 Apr 2007, by al4321@gmail.com:
OK, back to the problem. How can I help ?
What about my first suggestion? Get another soundcard. Here those cost about €10,- ($13) nowadays, that's hardly worth spending time on.. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.18 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 April 2007 17:02, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Fri, 20 Apr 2007, by al4321@gmail.com:
OK, back to the problem. How can I help ?
What about my first suggestion? Get another soundcard. Here those cost about €10,- ($13) nowadays, that's hardly worth spending time on..
The problem even with a same chip is how it is connected to the rest of electronics on the board. I have the same audio chip and no problems. Actually looking at the attachments in bug report it is almost the same hardware built on motherboard. Does BIOS set the registers properly? It seems that BIOS doesn't touch the sound chip, as it runs all the time unless the power is shut off, or widows driver set registers properly. Maybe BIOS update can help? Does vendor has BIOS update? If BIOS is not vendor specific, ie. with computer ID placed in a flash memory that is used by windows, than it can be used Gigabyte BIOS update. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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