[opensuse] Repair Tool Box missing in 11.3 ???
While booting from my openSUSE 11.3 installation DVD, I noticed that one option in the main menu is missing. Namely, it's "Repair Installed System" option. It was there up to 11.2, and now it's gone. At least, I can not find it. Anybody knows what happened? Is it really removed and for what reason? Best regards, ~rms~ -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Radule Šoškić wrote:
While booting from my openSUSE 11.3 installation DVD, I noticed that one option in the main menu is missing.
Namely, it's "Repair Installed System" option. It was there up to 11.2, and now it's gone. At least, I can not find it.
Anybody knows what happened? Is it really removed and for what reason?
It was not being maintained, and was no longer functioning. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2010-05/msg00407.html -- Per Jessen, Zürich (17.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Radule Šoškić
While booting from my openSUSE 11.3 installation DVD, I noticed that one option in the main menu is missing.
Namely, it's "Repair Installed System" option. It was there up to 11.2, and now it's gone. At least, I can not find it.
Anybody knows what happened? Is it really removed and for what reason?
Really removed. It was unsupported (ie. no maintainer) and apparently was becoming more and more buggy. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El 29/07/10 10:00, Radule Šoškić escribió:
Anybody knows what happened? Is it really removed and for what reason?
The possible breakage scenarios are way too many for a tool to handle them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 7/29/2010 12:05 PM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 29/07/10 10:00, Radule Šoškić escribió:
Anybody knows what happened? Is it really removed and for what reason?
The possible breakage scenarios are way too many for a tool to handle them.
I don't know what was in the Repair System, but I understand that one of the items was to re-initialize the boot partition with 'grub'. I am also guessing there were other small items which were automated to make the end-users manual tasks easier to accomplish. It is hard to believe that all the individual tasks were broken. It sounds like the decision to discontinue support for such a useful feature did not take into account the fact that smaller tasks which were not broken are very useful to end-users, and therefore what still did work properly could have been kept while more ambitious things which did not work and were buggy could have been dropped for lack of time to fix them. While I realize that the implementer of Repair System dropped it because he did not have help fixing the problems and did not have the time to do it himself and maintain the feature for each release, and while I realize that openSUSE is free (moneywise), dropping features that make the end-user's task easier is one of the main reasons why Linux has a reputation as being too arcane and difficult for an end-user and/or too unwilling to create GUI interfaces that make using the system easier for the Linux non-guru. I do applaud openSUSE in general for seeking to make a Linux distribution that is friendlier for the end-user. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Edward Diener wrote:
I don't know what was in the Repair System, but I understand that one of the items was to re-initialize the boot partition with 'grub'. I am also guessing there were other small items which were automated to make the end-users manual tasks easier to accomplish. It is hard to believe that all the individual tasks were broken.
They probably weren't.
It sounds like the decision to discontinue support for such a useful feature
It wasn't (in my understanding) "a decision to discontinue support". It was a case of "it's broken and nobody's fixing it". The openSUSE project is increasingly taking responsibility for itself, these are some of the changes we're seeing.
did not take into account the fact that smaller tasks which were not broken are very useful to end-users, and therefore what still did work properly could have been kept while more ambitious things which did not work and were buggy could have been dropped for lack of time to fix them.
If you're missing specific functionality previously provided by the repair option, I urge you to open feature requests for them at http://features.opensuse.org/ -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.7°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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