I'm having a really hard time setting up the audio support on the computer I built for SuSE 10.2, and I'm hoping to find someone who's been here, done that. The sound card is onboard, on an Elitegroup motherboard, and YaST2's hardware information identifies it as a PCI "Elitegroup audio device," with the vendor nVidia. I'm not sure what other bits of info from there are important in identifying it. Hardware setup says it's an nVidia sound card, and that it's not configured. When I try to configure it, an error comes back saying that module snd-hda-intel can't be located. (Hardware info tells me that IRQ 11 is enabled, and the sound card memory is active.) All the Linux support I could find on www.nVidia.com was for their graphics cards. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks in advance for any help with it! Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 07 June 2007 20:35, Jerry Houston wrote:
I'm having a really hard time setting up the audio support on the computer I built for SuSE 10.2, and I'm hoping to find someone who's been here, done that.
The sound card is onboard, on an Elitegroup motherboard, and YaST2's hardware information identifies it as a PCI "Elitegroup audio device," with the vendor nVidia. I'm not sure what other bits of info from there are important in identifying it.
Hardware setup says it's an nVidia sound card, and that it's not configured. When I try to configure it, an error comes back saying that module snd-hda-intel can't be located. (Hardware info tells me that IRQ 11 is enabled, and the sound card memory is active.)
All the Linux support I could find on www.nVidia.com was for their graphics cards.
Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks in advance for any help with it!
Jerry in Bothell, WA
Hi Jerry, the snd-hda-intel is in ALSA package, and it should be automatically installed if YaST has any source of software available (CD/DVD/FTP/HTTP/etc..). You can install alsa manually using YaST and then the audio setup module will not complain. Apropos nvidia: The drivers for nforce chipset are included in kernel: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html so there is no need to download them. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 07 June 2007 21:31, Jerry Houston wrote: Jerry, this mail arrived direct to my inbox. You should use Reply to All in Thunderbird. It will send 2 emails if you don't edit the address field, but it will land in mail list.
On Thursday 07 June 2007 20:35, Jerry Houston wrote:
I'm having a really hard time setting up the audio support on the computer I built for SuSE 10.2, and I'm hoping to find someone who's been here, done that.
The sound card is onboard, on an Elitegroup motherboard, and YaST2's hardware information identifies it as a PCI "Elitegroup audio device," with the vendor nVidia. I'm not sure what other bits of info from there are important in identifying it.
Hardware setup says it's an nVidia sound card, and that it's not configured. When I try to configure it, an error comes back saying that module snd-hda-intel can't be located. (Hardware info tells me that IRQ 11 is enabled, and the sound card memory is active.)
All the Linux support I could find on www.nVidia.com was for their graphics cards.
Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks in advance for any help with it!
Jerry in Bothell, WA
Hi Jerry,
the snd-hda-intel is in ALSA package, and it should be automatically installed if YaST has any source of software available (CD/DVD/FTP/HTTP/etc..). You can install alsa manually using YaST and then the audio setup module will not complain.
Apropos nvidia: The drivers for nforce chipset are included in kernel: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html so there is no need to download them.
Thanks for the quick response, Rajko. ALSA was already installed, but just in case, I checked every other package that was associated with ALSA in YaST, and installed everything. Then I tried again to configure the card, with the same results.
I also tried using alsaconf, which doesn't find any PCI card present, despite what YaST hardware information says. I tried configuring it as a legacy Soundblaster, figuring that might be a safe fallback (like a graphics card used for VGA), but that didn't help, either.
Soundblaster is OK for compatible cards. It was never safe option like VGA in graphic.
I've also tried using YaST to configure it as every type of nVidia card listed, without any luck. I've run out of ideas.
Regards,
Jerry in Bothell, WA
It should be the snd-hda-intel. I had that without glitch with retail version of openSUSE 10.2. It is not complete support, some parts of mixer don't show up, but I have sound. I guess that module is installed as part of kernel. Check /lib/modules/2.6.18.8-0.3-default/kernel/sound/pci/hda it should have 2 files: snd-hda-codec.ko snd-hda-intel.ko If they are in than run as root in console [1]: lspci and hwinfo --sound and post output. Don't forget to Replay to All :-) [1] the KDE konsole program has drop down menu Session where you can select Root shell, give root password and you are logged in as root, -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
this mail arrived direct to my inbox. You should use Reply to All in Thunderbird. It will send 2 emails if you don't edit the address field, but it will land in mail list.
Sorry about that. I knew that, but it was late, and this is the ONLY list that doesn't reply-to the list, of all the ones I'm subscribed to. Your suggestions to list the PCI devices was a good one; the sound card shows up in slot 5, where the hardware info probe shows it: linux-Alpine:/lib/modules/2.6.18.8-0.3-default/kernel/sound/pci/hda # lspci 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2) 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1) 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2) 00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:05.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) 01:05.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) 01:05.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04) 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS (rev a1) And hwinfo displays the same information as before: 18: PCI 05.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.286] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10de_3f0 Unique ID: CvwD.aVYG86RKEd7 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:00:05.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Elitegroup Audio device" Vendor: pci 0x10de "nVidia Corporation" Device: pci 0x03f0 SubVendor: pci 0x1019 "Elitegroup Computer Systems" SubDevice: pci 0xa88d Revision: 0xa2 Memory Range: 0xfe028000-0xfe02bfff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 11 (no events) Module Alias: "pci:v000010DEd000003F0sv00001019sd0000A88Dbc04sc03i00" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown The two files were were you said to expect them, so I'm not sure why YaST said that it couldn't find the module. Does any of this give you any ideas I should try? I hope it doesn't turn out to be something really stupid, like the speaker/mic cables plugged into the motherboard incorrectly! I'll double-check all that when I get home from work today. Thanks again for all your help, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi all, Jerry Houston wrote:
Your suggestions to list the PCI devices was a good one; the sound card shows up in slot 5, where the hardware info probe shows it:
OK, the card is recognized by the system and the problem seems to be driver related... Is there something interesting in /var/log/messages or in 'dmesg' output? Does 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' help? The card might not be supported by ALSA, I don't know the current status... -- Best Regards Ladislav Slezák Yast Developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: lslezak@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ladislav Slezak wrote:
OK, the card is recognized by the system and the problem seems to be driver related...
Is there something interesting in /var/log/messages or in 'dmesg' output? Does 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' help?
Answering from work, so I can't check on messages right now. I did try modprobe, and there was no output of any kind. No information, no error messages, just a fresh command-line prompt. I assume I didn't need to run that from any particular directory, do I? I did run it from an admin console.
The card might not be supported by ALSA, I don't know the current status...
That's the impression I got from alsaconf. Its first message was that it couldn't find a PCI card. Is there another place where I should be looking for an updated version of ALSA, or would that come along in the normal course of applying available updates? I've been doing that. As far as I know, this motherboard is reasonably competent, but it's not exactly bleeding-edge. It surprises me that its sound card is so difficult to support. Regards, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Jerry Houston wrote:
Ladislav Slezak wrote:
OK, the card is recognized by the system and the problem seems to be driver related...
Is there something interesting in /var/log/messages or in 'dmesg' output? Does 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' help?
Answering from work, so I can't check on messages right now. I did try modprobe, and there was no output of any kind. No information, no error messages, just a fresh command-line prompt. I assume I didn't need to run that from any particular directory, do I? I did run it from an admin console.
Yes, you don't need to run the command in any special directory.
That's the impression I got from alsaconf. Its first message was that it couldn't find a PCI card. Is there another place where I should be looking for an updated version of ALSA, or would that come along in the normal course of applying available updates? I've been doing that.
ALSA drivers are part of the Linux kernel, so if there is a kernel patch available you should apply it. Or you can install the latest kernel in parallel to the current one.
As far as I know, this motherboard is reasonably competent, but it's not exactly bleeding-edge. It surprises me that its sound card is so difficult to support.
Well, there might be a slight difference in design but if nobody knows it it's hard to fix it... -- Best Regards Ladislav Slezák Yast Developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: lslezak@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 08 June 2007 08:51, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
Hi,
Jerry Houston wrote:
Ladislav Slezak wrote:
OK, the card is recognized by the system and the problem seems to be driver related...
Is there something interesting in /var/log/messages or in 'dmesg' output? Does 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' help?
Answering from work, so I can't check on messages right now. I did try modprobe, and there was no output of any kind. No information, no error messages, just a fresh command-line prompt. I assume I didn't need to run that from any particular directory, do I? I did run it from an admin console.
Yes, you don't need to run the command in any special directory.
That's the impression I got from alsaconf. Its first message was that it couldn't find a PCI card. Is there another place where I should be looking for an updated version of ALSA, or would that come along in the normal course of applying available updates? I've been doing that.
ALSA drivers are part of the Linux kernel, so if there is a kernel patch available you should apply it. Or you can install the latest kernel in parallel to the current one.
As far as I know, this motherboard is reasonably competent, but it's not exactly bleeding-edge. It surprises me that its sound card is so difficult to support.
Well, there might be a slight difference in design but if nobody knows it it's hard to fix it...
Hi all, if modprobe snd-hda-intel doesn't return anything that it means module is loaded. lsmod | grep snd should give list of all modules that contain string "snd" and snd-hda-intel is probably in the list. The lspci entry tells that your card is different: 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Mine is MCP51. I just found something that might be helpful: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=30235 One idea would be to try 10.3 alpha 4. It has new kernel. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
The lspci entry tells that your card is different: 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Mine is MCP51.
I just found something that might be helpful: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=30235
Indeed. Thanks. I was able to assign snd-hda-intel as the driver for the MCP61, according to the suggestions in the forum (via YaST System Settings), but like the person with the problem there, that alone didn't resolve it - YaST Hardware Sound still fails to load snd-hda-intel when I try to configure the existing sound card, or try to add a new one as an MCP51.. Something he tried later did work, however, possibly in addition to the earlier suggestions. From his message: "I installed the new versions of alsa, then did elsewheres thing with the PCI ID, I still got complaints, but when I went to the sound section and changed to MCP 51 (hda) it works!" What I don't understand is the "installed the new versions of alsa" part. I've installed all updates that are available, supposedly, and there was nothing about ALSA in any of them. I don't believe he was talking about a kernel rebuild, because an earlier message from him stated that such would be beyond his skills. Where can I install updates to ALSA? Is there a patch RPG somewhere that will update it? Are there directions somewhere that are simple enough for a Windows software developer to follow?
One idea would be to try 10.3 alpha 4. It has new kernel.
Is it possible to leave 10.2 installed and switch between them? I wouldn't mind trying a new kernel if there's an easy way to return to what I now have. It's annoying not to have sound, but everything else is working very well indeed, and it appears that 10.3 will solve the problem once it's released. I can be patient for that long, if that's the best answer. Thanks again for all your help -- I've learned a lot in a short time! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 09 June 2007 19:53, Jerry Houston wrote:
I don't believe he was talking about a kernel rebuild, because an earlier message from him stated that such would be beyond his skills.
Recompiling kernel is easy if all you want is newer version with same configuration. With openSUSE is in this moment small problem that the latest kernel is built for new 10.3 release that has more depending changes. I don't follow this so I can't say what else has to be updated.
Where can I install updates to ALSA? Is there a patch RPG somewhere that will update it? Are there directions somewhere that are simple enough for a Windows software developer to follow?
The ALSA web page is: http://www.alsa-project.org/ the unofficial wiki is: http://alsa.opensrc.org/ You can check by yourself is it easy enough.
One idea would be to try 10.3 alpha 4. It has new kernel.
Is it possible to leave 10.2 installed and switch between them?
Yes. Linux grew up as second installed OS and multiboot is very well developed and stable feature. Guys that use proprietary solutions because have many better ways to use that money.
I wouldn't mind trying a new kernel if there's an easy way to return to what I now have.
It is easy for kernel that have different version strings.
All that has to be done is to add new kernel and initrd
to /boot/grub/menu.lst. Mimic one of linux entries that already exist with
vmlinuz
It's annoying not to have sound, but everything else is working very well indeed, and it appears that 10.3 will solve the problem once it's released. I can be patient for that long, if that's the best answer.
Well if you can be patient till end of year than that would be the easiest way.
Thanks again for all your help -- I've learned a lot in a short time!
-- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 June 2007 09:47, Rajko M. wrote: Correction for the 22 missing characters :-)
Guys that use proprietary solutions because have many better ways to use that money.
Guys that use proprietary solutions because they don't trust Linux have many better ways to use that money. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jerry Houston wrote:
I'm having a really hard time setting up the audio support on the computer I built for SuSE 10.2, and I'm hoping to find someone who's been here, done that.
The sound card is onboard, on an Elitegroup motherboard, and YaST2's hardware information identifies it as a PCI "Elitegroup audio device," with the vendor nVidia. I'm not sure what other bits of info from there are important in identifying it.
Hardware setup says it's an nVidia sound card, and that it's not configured. When I try to configure it, an error comes back saying that module snd-hda-intel can't be located. (Hardware info tells me that IRQ 11 is enabled, and the sound card memory is active.)
All the Linux support I could find on www.nVidia.com was for their graphics cards.
Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks in advance for any help with it!
Jerry in Bothell, WA
I've read what you state above but nevertheless a couple of things to check: is the on-board sound card selected in the BIOS? and go to YaST Control Center/Hardware/Sound and see how many cards are shown there; if more than one (and its not the one you are using) then deleted them both and allow YaST to 'find' the right one by rebooting the system. Also, go to Configure Desktop (under Gecko/History)/Sound & Multimedia/Sound System and Enable the sound system and also look in the Hardware stub re which sound system is active. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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