On 28/01/10 17:30, Mark Misulich wrote:
I loaded kde 4.4 on my computer to see how it works.
Then I tried to do
some work with it by loading a ldif address file into both Thunderbird
and Evolution. I use Thunderbird for my personal email and to receive
emails for a newsletter that I write. I use Evolution exclusively for
the opensuse mail list.
When I tried to load the ldif file, I was able to import it to both
programs in a jiffy. But the ldif file isn't importing the current
addresses from the current file, even though the file name I am
importing from is the correct one. It is importing the address book
from the previous file, near as I can figure. It is also not importing
all the addresses in the file.
I would like to add that neither Evolution or Thunderbird are KDE apps.
So while I'm sure it is an annoying bug, and please do report it to the
right people, AFAICT it's not relevant to KDE.
After that, I decided I was done messing with them so
I tried to eject
the cd from the cd drive, and couldn't figure out how to do it with any
gui commands. I tried:
1. Letting the little popup thingy in the taskbar show which drives had
cd's in them, and trying to get the cd to eject from there. No joy.
Works for me on my hardware.
2. Going to the My Computer plasmacon on the desktop
and opening it,
clicking on the icon next to the drive with the cd in it to see if it
would eject. No joy, so I tried to right click on the drive in the list
in the My computer window. Also no joy.
Works for me.
3. Opening Dolphin and going to the media file,
finding my cd and trying
to right click to get a dropdown list with an eject command. No joy.
Works for me.
4. Pressing the eject button on the drive. No joy, no
me what I am doing wrong.
Works for me.
Maybe in your reply you will be able how to simply and
easily eject the
cd after I am finished using it. But if you have to tell me, I think it
counts as being a non-intuitive feature in kde 4.4.
Instead of blaming "non-intuitive" KDE4.4 (seems intuitive enough,
were easily able to find 4! different ways of ejecting your CD, all of
which work) why don't you consider the fact that there might be
something odd about your specific setup that is causing problems?
Certainly, the bug you are experiencing should be fixed, but instead of
providing concrete information like what hardware you were using, logs,
kernel messages, mount status, etc. you decide to blame the desktop
environment as a whole and give up.
I haven't loaded kde 4.x on my computer that I
use regularly because of
so many quirky little things in the kde 4.x's like this that just slow
me down and render the kde 4.x desktops a pain to use. I decided to
stay with Suse 11.1 and kde 3.5 until kde gets these things worked out
for the new version.
KDE is not going to "get these things worked out" by itself, the devs
aren't psychic. Do you honestly think they would have released code if a
key feature didn't work on at least most machines they tested? Clearly
there is something different about your setup - that's not a reason not
to fix the problem, but it means it is your responsibility to provide
more information because we can't get it from here.
If you experience problems, provide specific information and continue to
be engaged in the process. Don't assume that someone else will report
for you. I can understand that people don't have time to do detailed bug
reports, etc etc. but somehow they still find time to write complaints ...
If you would like, if you still have any relevant logs accessible, I
would recommend starting a new thread with details. I would guess that
somewhere some process (maybe KDE related, maybe not) was refusing to
let go of the drive and so the unmount was failing. This would match
your symptoms of being able to eject it after a restart.
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