At 13:30:43 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:

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Stan Goodman : I want to update to v3.6.3.

I think you need to get used to Linux. Run with what is embeded during 6 months or so. Then you will easily tune your system.

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At 13:31:43 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Francesco Teodori wrote:

This is the repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ Regards,     Francesco

I added that repo, and tried again to update Firefox, but found that the only update offered was v3.5.9, so I installed that. Then, after Felix pointed out the page at http://en.opensuse.org/Firefox, I visited it and ran the series of zypper commands to install "the newest version". I've listed the result in another message just sent to this thread, but in short, the 3.5.9 was all this repo has to offer. I had been to that page before, but was unable to locate it today. Previoiusly I had used it to install v3.6.3 on an 11.1 machine. Since that worked, I conclude that the 11.2 repo just doesn't have the newest version.

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On 2010/05/14 11:17 (GMT-0400) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:

I'm not a good supporter for the package manager though but something is wrong if you don't get 3.6.3 installed. Probably zypper doesn't want to do a vendor change.

Neither am I, but in reading the zypper man page I think likely the last line on http://en.opensuse.org/Firefox 11.2 instructions that OP used needs "-r mozilla" added to work right if FF is already installed, making the vendor change necessary. 'zypper dup -r mozilla' might also work for those with FF already installed. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 19:28 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

At 18:17:57 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Am 14.05.2010 17:11, schrieb Stan Goodman:

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At 13:31:43 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Francesco Teodori

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This is the repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ Regards, Francesco

I added that repo, and tried again to update Firefox, but found that the only update offered was v3.5.9, so I installed that.

Then, after Felix pointed out the page at http://en.opensuse.org/Firefox, I visited it and ran the series of zypper commands to install "the newest version". I've listed the result in another message just sent to this thread, but in short, the 3.5.9 was all this repo has to offer.

I had been to that page before, but was unable to locate it today. Previoiusly I had used it to install v3.6.3 on an 11.1 machine. Since that worked, I conclude that the 11.2 repo just doesn't have the newest version.

It has 3.6.3. I'm not a good supporter for the package manager though but something is wrong if you don't get 3.6.3 installed. Probably zypper doesn't want to do a vendor change. Could you try yast2 and choose the 3.6.3 version?

I did that first. I would certainly choose 3.6.3 if it ware offered, but it isn't. What the box in the lower right corner of the Software Manager window says is:

***** Installed: 3.5.9-0.1.1 (x86_64) Remove

Available: 3.5.9-0.1.1 (x86_64) openSUSE-11.2-Update *****

But now I noticed that the second part of the above is an inverted caret to the right which I haad overlooked before. This is my second day in 11.2, and apparently I haven't not yet internalized all the curiosities of the new display. Pulling down what I now understand is a list box, I see that there are two additional entries:

3.6.3-1.2 (x86_64) Mozilla and

3.6.3-1.2 (x86_64) mozilla

I can only guess why one should pick the capitalized one over the one with only lower case, but that is what I will do.

Installation was complete, after forcing a vendor change.

So I could have avoided wasting much of a day, had I been more observant. I apologize; thanks to everyone for there help.

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Wolfgang

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Hi Stan, I think I had the same problem on one of my computers when I tried to update to the latest firefox. It got stuck at 3.5.9, that was all it would update to even though I had the mozilla repository installed. I use yast instead of zypper, so I went to package management in yast and typed in firefox in the search box. It showed 3.5.9 as the installed version. I then selected the tab for versions, and found that 3.5.9 was at the top of the list. Looking down the list of available versions of firefox, I found that 3.6.x was available and I selected it and hit install. Yast found a dependency that was required for the new version, and I had to select a change of vendor for that dependency. When I did that, 3.6.x installed. The problem was the dependency and yast would only solve for the earlier version until I changed the source for the dependency. Hope this fixes the problem. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

At 16:27:16 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2010/05/14 13:21 (GMT+0300) Stan Goodman composed:

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I have also d/l the Linux installation tar.bz file from the Moxilla site,

Exactly which tar.bz would that be? I fetched http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.3/linu x-i686/en-US/firefox-3.6.3.tar.bz2 which is a bz2, not a tar.bz. I don't see any Linux versions of FF for Linux in tar.bz format on that download site.

I didn't either, but if you scroll down a bit on the page that I found (don't ask me for its URL), there are also links for Linux and Mac. You are right, it is tar.bz2.

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and expanded it.

"Expanded"? Please explain just what you did.

I unpacked it.

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It does not contain installation instructions,

The one I downloaded contains no installation instructions other than a README.txt that says:

"For information about installing, running and configuring Firefox including a list of known issues and troubleshooting information, refer to: http://getfirefox.com/releases/". Trouble is, that redirects to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html?from=getfirefox which has no "information about installation". Mozilla needs a dose of clue.

Yes, that's what happened here. To amend my sentence: It does not contain installation instructions, but only a suggestion to visit a page that also contains no directions.

However, that sort of dead-ends, as it has no "installation instructions". What it does have is "release notes", which has a useless "installation". I can understand your puzzlement. Sheesh.

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and the script file contained in it claims it

Exactly which "script file"?

There is a file called run-mozilla.sh that claims to be executable and has promiscuous permission to execute, but doesn't. even for root.

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cant be executed, even by roor, although it is parked executable by all and the owner is the user.

Did you try doing ./firefox or ./firefox-bin from the dir in which you extracted the tar.gz?

I suggest you try the instructions on http://en.opensuse.org/Firefox before continuing this thread.

Why not? All else has failed.

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That's also a good idea, although a faulty translation from the original, which is in itself not unusual.

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At 16:27:16 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Felix Miata wrote:

I suggest you try the instructions on http://en.opensuse.org/Firefox before continuing this thread.

Thanks for this link! I have this page before, in updating FF on another machine that runs 11.1, but couldn't find it now for the task at hand for the 11.2 machine. Here is the adventure of updating Firefox, and its surprising conclusion: ***** # zypper addrepo --refresh http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ mozilla Adding repository 'mozilla' [done] Repository 'mozilla' successfully added Enabled: Yes Autorefresh: Yes URI: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ # zypper refresh Repository 'Mozilla' is up to date. Repository 'Packman repository (openSUSE_11.2)' is up to date. Retrieving repository 'mozilla' metadata [done] Building repository 'mozilla' cache [done] Repository 'openSUSE-11.2-Debug' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.2-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.2-Update' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. # zypper install mozilla:MozillaFirefox Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... skipping package 'MozillaFirefox' (the newest version already installed) Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. # ***** So supposedly all is well. But a look at "About Firefox" shows that what is there is v3.5.9, not v3.6.3. Why? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 14.05.2010 16:57, schrieb Stan Goodman:

At 16:27:16 on Friday Friday 14 May 2010, Felix Miata wrote:

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I suggest you try the instructions on http://en.opensuse.org/Firefox before continuing this thread.

Thanks for this link! I have this page before, in updating FF on another machine that runs 11.1, but couldn't find it now for the task at hand for the 11.2 machine.

Here is the adventure of updating Firefox, and its surprising conclusion:

***** # zypper addrepo --refresh [...]

# zypper refresh [...] All repositories have been refreshed. # zypper install mozilla:MozillaFirefox Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... skipping package 'MozillaFirefox' (the newest version already installed) Resolving package dependencies...

Nothing to do. # *****

So supposedly all is well. But a look at "About Firefox" shows that what is there is v3.5.9, not v3.6.3.

Why?

Beacuse zypper never does a vendor change. Your actual FF is from the installation repository named "openSUSE". The FF you want is from the openSUSE Build system obs. You should use YaST's software management to switch vendors manually for the first time (see my other post that I sent also as PM by mistake :-]). After that, you will always have the latest version from that repo. But initially, you have to change the repo by hand. Or: uninstall FF with all dependencies and do a new "zypper in MozillaFirefox". Zypper will use the latest version from any repo, when this packe has not been installed yet. If it was already installed, zypper looks only at the repo you installed it from. It's a feature... ;-) HTH Werner -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL7W79AAoJEOfJ7bNoiiCN7L8H/RmrF7HmyUjHn+7qbGuL8jHZ k0+FOK+EVM6wjKchyi2+LuEOu9Z+7Wy03G+Flk3RWzD/3dYeQ8Y/owAFkXlNM0o6 Uqt4Erp6RDHqfXEnVH9yLTBLqqW1CfwM5whf+U8l0bdaF1DgCCKidX2rIJnu0jYZ Y3OjXNMVhPuwYSQFjXFWiiMkgznQyP0FjqkMOXyicapq+xvWryf656tyHk8gR+Uy r+Biz+fQtpw1SRmpMkApu4IaHD4dmzySgh4B3ZCcmb+JJ+aYtGV4yn58yzQSzSRG ADQPq+ZBeaCIKmbxFeZ7Q64GmchBKonaQobhJ2bpDrxJw3dfo7oj1CIYpENWzDU= =MZWp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org