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The poll has been removed because of abuse. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brevsville Administrator" <admin@brevsville.com.au> To: <webmaster@firstlinux.com> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 6:17 PM Subject: Huh?
Hey
I was looking at http://www.firstlinux.net/pollBooth.php3?op=results&pollID=1 earlier and the results showed SuSE Linux streets ahead. Now it has been removed from the page as has the SuSE vote option on the right frame. Is this rigged?!!!!!
Please!!
Chris
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The poll has been removed because of abuse. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brevsville Administrator" <<FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>admin@brevsville.com.au<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U>> To: <<FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>webmaster@firstlinux.com<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 6:17 PM Subject: Huh? Hey
I was looking at <FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>http://www.firstlinux.net/pollBooth.php3?op=results&pollID=1<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U> earlier and the results showed SuSE Linux streets ahead. Now it has been removed from the page as has the SuSE vote option on the right frame. Is this rigged?!!!!!
Please!!
Chris <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"> <FONT SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10" DEFAULT="SIZE">
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Brevsville Administrator wrote: ??? What is PMMail? Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO) Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it... On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Brevsville Administrator wrote:
???
What is PMMail?
Greg
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PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine: X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128) Avi ZephyrQ wrote:
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO)
Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it...
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Brevsville Administrator wrote:
???
What is PMMail?
Greg
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They ported it to Windows...and the company figured out that they could make more $ porting OS/2 apps to windows than to Linux. I checked thier website a while back...they promised NO port to Linux. Sigh. On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine:
X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128)
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO)
Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it...
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Oh well, their loss. Linux is going to get some very exciting mailers soon enough. PMmail is just an OK mailer. Compared to IBM's mail client monster for OS/2 it was a much nicer, smaller and faster mailer. Compared to Balsa, Evolution, etc. it is just OK. Avi ZephyrQ wrote:
They ported it to Windows...and the company figured out that they could make more $ porting OS/2 apps to windows than to Linux.
I checked thier website a while back...they promised NO port to Linux.
Sigh.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine:
X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128)
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO)
Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it...
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Yup PMMail originated on OS/2 .. I had version 0.90 on my trusty OS/2 machine. Frankly PMMail was one of the main things that held me to OS/2 in the end, till PMMail 98 was released for Windows... Now I have PMMail 2000 on Win2K (I run Linxux servers but need Win for work). I have clients running everything and nothing has ever come close to PMMail for reliability and functionality... certainly not outlook..cripes! On the Topic of a Linux port, a couple of years ago I asked Robert (one of the original developers) and he said there was no plans. More recently I asked Jimmy McCorquodale of Blueprint Software, who now handle the product and he also told me there were no plans at the present time. That was about 2 months ago. Anyway.. why not email and ask, it'd be a great asset to Linux and I'd pay for it as I have all the versions I have used. Chris On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:33:17 -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote:
Oh well, their loss. Linux is going to get some very exciting mailers soon enough. PMmail is just an OK mailer. Compared to IBM's mail client monster for OS/2 it was a much nicer, smaller and faster mailer. Compared to Balsa, Evolution, etc. it is just OK.
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
They ported it to Windows...and the company figured out that they could make more $ porting OS/2 apps to windows than to Linux.
I checked thier website a while back...they promised NO port to Linux.
Sigh.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine:
X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128)
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO)
Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it...
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Chris,
I have clients running everything and nothing has ever come close to PMMail for reliability and functionality... certainly not outlook..cripes!
Perhaps it's just the interface design that is more familiar to an OS/2 user? I think Outlook is quite possibly the best e-mailer ever created. I love the Outlook Today function that tells me what I'm scheduled to do today, the rules are very powerful, WinFax integration is great, AutoArchive works wonderfully, need I go on? Give Outlook a month - you'll never go back (thus why I am searching for a replacement in Linux). -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
On the Topic of a Linux port, a couple of years ago I asked Robert (one of the original developers) and he said there was no plans. More recently I asked Jimmy McCorquodale of Blueprint Software, who now handle the product and he also told me there were no plans at the present time. That was about 2 months ago.
Anyway.. why not email and ask, it'd be a great asset to Linux and I'd pay for it as I have all the versions I have used.
Chris
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:33:17 -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote:
Oh well, their loss. Linux is going to get some very exciting mailers soon enough. PMmail is just an OK mailer. Compared to IBM's mail client monster for OS/2 it was a much nicer, smaller and faster mailer. Compared to Balsa, Evolution, etc. it is just OK.
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
They ported it to Windows...and the company figured out that they could make more $ porting OS/2 apps to windows than to Linux.
I checked thier website a while back...they promised NO port to Linux.
Sigh.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine:
X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128)
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO)
Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it...
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Timothy R. Butler spewed forth into the void:
Chris,
I have clients running everything and nothing has ever come close to PMMail for reliability and functionality... certainly not outlook..cripes!
Perhaps it's just the interface design that is more familiar to an OS/2 user? I think Outlook is quite possibly the best e-mailer ever created. I love the Outlook Today function that tells me what I'm scheduled to do today, the rules are very powerful, WinFax integration is great, AutoArchive works wonderfully, need I go on? Give Outlook a month - you'll never go back (thus why I am searching for a replacement in Linux).
-Tim
personally, i hated Outlook. cant the damn thing just answer mail? must it try to replace the entire OS....
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On the Topic of a Linux port, a couple of years ago I asked Robert (one of the original developers) and he said there was no plans. More recently I asked Jimmy McCorquodale of Blueprint Software, who now handle the product and he also told me there were no plans at the present time. That was about 2 months ago.
Anyway.. why not email and ask, it'd be a great asset to Linux and I'd pay for it as I have all the versions I have used.
Chris
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:33:17 -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote:
Oh well, their loss. Linux is going to get some very exciting mailers soon enough. PMmail is just an OK mailer. Compared to IBM's mail client monster for OS/2 it was a much nicer, smaller and faster mailer. Compared to Balsa, Evolution, etc. it is just OK.
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
They ported it to Windows...and the company figured out that they could make more $ porting OS/2 apps to windows than to Linux.
I checked thier website a while back...they promised NO port to Linux.
Sigh.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine:
X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128)
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO)
Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for it...
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I don't think it does most of the changing, it just installs IE at the same time, and in "exchange" changes the whole OS. <g> -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Timothy R. Butler spewed forth into the void:
Chris,
I have clients running everything and nothing has ever come close to PMMail for reliability and functionality... certainly not outlook..cripes!
Perhaps it's just the interface design that is more familiar to an OS/2 user? I think Outlook is quite possibly the best e-mailer ever created. I love the Outlook Today function that tells me what I'm scheduled to do today, the rules are very powerful, WinFax integration is great, AutoArchive works wonderfully, need I go on? Give Outlook a month - you'll never go back (thus why I am searching for a replacement in Linux).
-Tim
personally, i hated Outlook. cant the damn thing just answer mail? must it try to replace the entire OS....
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On the Topic of a Linux port, a couple of years ago I asked Robert (one of the original developers) and he said there was no plans. More recently I asked Jimmy McCorquodale of Blueprint Software, who now handle the product and he also told me there were no plans at the present time. That was about 2 months ago.
Anyway.. why not email and ask, it'd be a great asset to Linux and I'd pay for it as I have all the versions I have used.
Chris
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:33:17 -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote:
Oh well, their loss. Linux is going to get some very exciting mailers soon enough. PMmail is just an OK mailer. Compared to IBM's mail client monster for OS/2 it was a much nicer, smaller and faster mailer. Compared to Balsa, Evolution, etc. it is just OK.
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote:
They ported it to Windows...and the company figured out that they could make more $ porting OS/2 apps to windows than to Linux.
I checked thier website a while back...they promised NO port to Linux.
Sigh.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote:
PMMAil indeed originated in OS/2 but this one seems to be coming from a W2K machine:
X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.10.1999) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2128)
Avi
ZephyrQ wrote: > > Sounds like an old OS/2 mailer that is still YEARS ahead > of anything GUI oriented in Linux OR windows (Why so many > Outlook clones...Outlook stinks IMNSHO) > > Sigh...in light of trying to compile e-mailers and > failing, I'd LOVE a port of PMMail to Linux...I'd even pay for > it... >
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
Chris,
I have clients running everything and nothing has ever come close to PMMail for reliability and functionality... certainly not outlook..cripes!
Perhaps it's just the interface design that is more familiar to an OS/2 user? I think Outlook is quite possibly the best e-mailer ever created. I love the Outlook Today function that tells me what I'm scheduled to do today, the rules are very powerful, WinFax integration is great, AutoArchive works wonderfully, need I go on? Give Outlook a month - you'll never go back (thus why I am searching for a replacement in Linux).
I use Outlook all day long and if I wanted to I could use it at home, too. Do I? No. It actually disgusts me, it's slow (particularly when using Exchange), the Outlook Today function crashes Outlook on half of our users machines (depends on which version of IE they're using), the rules are mediocre, and you'll need to explain to me the benefits of AutoArchive (because I can't figure any out). OTOH, any seamless tie in with a fax program is nice, and there are some other decent features. If I wanted to use a GUI mailer, then it certainly works better than Netscape Messenger and several of the Linux GUI mail clients, but that's not saying much. Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
I use Outlook all day long and if I wanted to I could use it at home, too. Do I? No. It actually disgusts me, it's slow (particularly when using Exchange), the Outlook Today function crashes Outlook on half of our users machines (depends on which version of IE they're using), the rules
Wonder why, I've never had trouble...
are mediocre, and you'll need to explain to me the benefits of AutoArchive (because I can't figure any out). OTOH, any seamless tie in
Great for large mail folders (to make them faster), and great for Palm Syncing so that the Palm doesn't get to much mail on it.
with a fax program is nice, and there are some other decent features. If I wanted to use a GUI mailer, then it certainly works better than Netscape Messenger and several of the Linux GUI mail clients, but that's not saying much.
However, I have yet to see a better GUI mailer. If it's better than the others, than for the current state of mailers, it ain't so bad right? Magellan or Evolution do look very nice, can't wait to try 'em... -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
Greg
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PMMail was a cool mail app writen for OS/2 Presentation Manager (PM). It was later ported for M$ platforms, but lacked the slickness the WARP (OS/2 Vers 3 & 4)feature set. Greg Thomas wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Brevsville Administrator wrote:
???
What is PMMail?
Greg
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