[opensuse] Latest Compiz and 11.1 64-bit
I've just applied the latest (as of today) compiz and associated drops from X11:XGL. They work well; thanks. A question, though. Two things in the change logs got my attention. There are references to fixes for NOMAD support or patches; and to "Review and merge changes from X11:Compiz". As nothing more than an ordinary user who has had no great problem with what comes out of the X11:XGL repository but who has had the well-advertised difficulties with what's been in X11:Compiz, I'm not sure what those change-log entries mean. (Truth be known I've never really understood the difference between X11:XGL and X11:Compiz, except that for me the first has worked and the second hasn't.) But does all this mean that X11:XGL and X11:Compiz are converging? And/or that remote desktop features are now in both? Or what? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? If someone could explain this to me in words of one syllable I'd be much obliged. Robin K -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Robin Klitscher <robnk@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
I've just applied the latest (as of today) compiz and associated drops from X11:XGL. They work well; thanks.
I am glad :)
But does all this mean that X11:XGL and X11:Compiz are converging?
There is no difference between X11:XGL and X11:Compiz packages except that NOMAD patches are disabled in X11:XGL repo. Compiz from that repo will not work as expected in rdesktop session. Ciao -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robin Klitscher wrote:
I've just applied the latest (as of today) compiz and associated drops from X11:XGL. They work well; thanks.
A question, though. Two things in the change logs got my attention. There are references to fixes for NOMAD support or patches; and to "Review and merge changes from X11:Compiz".
As nothing more than an ordinary user who has had no great problem with what comes out of the X11:XGL repository but who has had the well-advertised difficulties with what's been in X11:Compiz, I'm not sure what those change-log entries mean. (Truth be known I've never really understood the difference between X11:XGL and X11:Compiz, except that for me the first has worked and the second hasn't.)
But does all this mean that X11:XGL and X11:Compiz are converging? And/or that remote desktop features are now in both? Or what? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
If someone could explain this to me in words of one syllable I'd be much obliged.
Robin K
Robin, Have you been able to get the emerald-themes working with the packages from X11:XGL packages? I can get compiz to work fine on x86_64, but the emerald-themes wont work at all. Just thought I would chack. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote: <snip>
Robin,
Have you been able to get the emerald-themes working with the packages from X11:XGL packages? I can get compiz to work fine on x86_64, but the emerald-themes wont work at all. Just thought I would chack.
David, Yes; I have emerald themes working well. That's the short answer. But if you were to ask me say why or how, the answer has to be longer but it still boils down to "I can't really explain it." Emerald wasn't working one day, and then Lo!- it started working after one of the drops from X11:XGL that came out around Christmas time. Before that, any attempt to use anything other than the KDE Window Decorator resulted in no decorations at all (and also other, more functional difficulties with some applications). The answer at that time was to reload KDE Window Decorator. That's not very helpful, I know. But, for the record, here's what I have aboard at present in opensuse 11.1, using KDE 3.x (I have KDE 4.x as well, but I've not yet migrated to it for reasons other than compiz-fusion): python-compizconfig-0.7.8-2.8 compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-1.53 compiz-emerald-0.7.8-6.3 compiz-0.7.8-20.1 compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.7.8-6.8 compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.7.8-3.8 compiz-manager-0.0.1_git080201-53.2 compiz-branding-openSUSE-0.7.8-20.1 compiz-kde-0.7.8-20.1 libcompizconfig-0.7.8-3.8 compizconfig-settings-manager-0.7.8-2.8 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.7.8-6.6 fusion-icon-0.0.1_080201-5.1 all from X11:XGL I fire it all up on startup by way of a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart pointing to /usr/bin/fusion-icon. I can boot to either opensuse 11.0 or 11.1 on this machine, and that arrangement works in both. But there are differences. In 11.0, fusion-icon gives me choices for window decorator including GTK, KDE, Auto and Emerald. In 11.1 I don't get the GTK Window Decorator choice at all; just KDE, Auto and Emerald. I use Emerald in each case, so I haven't bothered trying to trace the reason. Another minor curiosity is that in 11.0, fusion-icon shows up in the system tray complete with its own icon, but in 11.1 it has a plain default icon. This doesn't affect functionality - cosmetic only - so I haven't really tried to fix it. All of that said, I haven't been able to get the stuff from the X11:Compiz repo to work; only X11:XGL. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robin Klitscher wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote: <snip>
Robin,
Have you been able to get the emerald-themes working with the packages from X11:XGL packages? I can get compiz to work fine on x86_64, but the emerald-themes wont work at all. Just thought I would chack.
David,
Yes; I have emerald themes working well. That's the short answer.
Well S.O.B, you're right! I did a complete update with Yast -> S/W Mgmt. -> Packages -> All Packages -> Update if newer version available. 600M later, I fired compiz up with fusion-icon, all OK, selected emerald decorations, all decorations disappeared, waited and few more seconds and poof, my beautiful hand created emerald decorations rolled into view. Good work J. and the rest of the compiz developers. We could care less about nomad or effects across a remote connection, but we are very grateful to have emerald back! Thanks! One more nit gone from the 11.1 release. Now if we could get working compositing ATI drivers back, things would really be looking up! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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David C. Rankin
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