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-----Original Message----- From: ERIC ALLAN [mailto:eallan4@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:09 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] SPAM: unsubscribe
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Unreal. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On July Sunday 16 2006 8:23 pm, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote in an electronic and somewhat quixotic manner:
-----Original Message----- From: ERIC ALLAN [mailto:eallan4@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:09 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] SPAM: unsubscribe
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Unreal.
Yeah, apparently they are all "automagically " subscribed and NEVER read any of the messages ... not even ones where others have tried to unsubscr. Scarey stuff.. -- j -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun July 16 2006 17:09, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
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My Gawd! Look at the freaking paragraph above. Only "you" can unsubscribe
yourself! Pay Attention Please! If you send an email to suse-linux-e-help
you get a response in a matter of minutes (if not seconds) and you'll see
this paragraph:
"You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 17:37 -0700, Curtis Rey wrote:
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On Sun July 16 2006 17:09, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
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My Gawd! Look at the freaking paragraph above. Only "you" can unsubscribe yourself! Pay Attention Please! If you send an email to suse-linux-e-help you get a response in a matter of minutes (if not seconds) and you'll see this paragraph:
"You can start a subscription for an alternate address, for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
To stop subscription for this address, mail:
" In your case that would be eallan4@verizon.net
Curtis, send this directly to him, not the list which he probably has stopped reading. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun July 16 2006 22:02, Mike McMullin wrote:
Curtis, send this directly to him, not the list which he probably has stopped reading.
Look at the paragraph above. Only "you" can unsubscribe
yourself! If you send an email to suse-linux-e-help you get a response in a
matter of minutes (if not seconds) and you'll see this paragraph:
"You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 22:36 -0700, Curtis Rey wrote:
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On Sun July 16 2006 22:02, Mike McMullin wrote:
Curtis, send this directly to him, not the list which he probably has stopped reading.
Look at the paragraph above. Only "you" can unsubscribe yourself! If you send an email to suse-linux-e-help you get a response in a matter of minutes (if not seconds) and you'll see this paragraph:
"You can start a subscription for an alternate address, for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
To stop subscription for this address, mail:
" In your case that would be eallan4@verizon.net (remember, replace the "@" with "=" as with the above example
[no quotes]). _________________________________________________________ I sent him a more cordial version of the original. Sometimes we on the list get a little short with newbies (if not rude). I think it might do well for the list vets to bear in mind that if SuSE does start to attract "new users"
I have no problem with new users coming here and asking for help of any kind. But I do object to new users coming here and telling the list how things are going to be changed to the way they want it to be. When in Rome, do as the Romans do - or be prepared to be snubbed and bitched at. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On July Monday 17 2006 1:02 am, Mike McMullin wrote in an electronic and somewhat quixotic manner:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 17:37 -0700, Curtis Rey wrote:
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On Sun July 16 2006 17:09, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
unsubscribe <snip> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
" In your case that would be eallan4@verizon.net
Curtis, send this directly to him, not the list which he probably has stopped reading.
I've tried that in the past only to get rude messages that my email address has been turned over to some sort of spam police . I repeat my call for a minimal reading comprehension test as part of activation of accounts. -- j -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon July 17 2006 12:56, jfweber@gilweber.com wrote:
On July Monday 17 2006 1:02 am, Mike McMullin wrote in an electronic and
somewhat quixotic manner:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 17:37 -0700, Curtis Rey wrote:
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On Sun July 16 2006 17:09, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
unsubscribe
<snip>
To stop subscription for this address, mail:
" In your case that would be eallan4@verizon.net
Curtis, send this directly to him, not the list which he probably has stopped reading.
I've tried that in the past only to get rude messages that my email address has been turned over to some sort of spam police . I repeat my call for a minimal reading comprehension test as part of activation of accounts. -- j
Well, what would you expect for a Verizon ISP???? Bleh, Curtis P.S. I sent him an email directly to him explain (once again how "he" must unsubscribe and also noted it's not SPAM if he "subscribed" to it - DOH!). - -- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEu+0R7CQBg4DqqCwRAo98AKDbHWvcfcluyzK+26ttS3CSWgbgAACePceC q68mpWvZwtl80l2z0iTgZhE= =Tvmf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
I've tried that in the past only to get rude messages that my email address has been turned over to some sort of spam police . I repeat my call for a minimal reading comprehension test as part of activation of accounts. I would request, that when people send unsubscribe messages to the list,
On Monday 17 July 2006 3:56 pm, jfweber@gilweber.com wrote:
that we try to answer that person so the he or she can get off the list,
and also it might be better to answer off list.
I run a server with 30 listservs running mailman that sends out a monthly
reminder complete with instructions on how to unsubscribe, and yet I (as
mailman-owner) still get requests to unsubscribe. My response is a canned
response. Since I don't run many of the individual lists, I refer them to
the list owner if they have trouble.
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* Jerry Feldman
I would request, that when people send unsubscribe messages to the list, that we try to answer that person so the he or she can get off the list, and also it might be better to answer off list.
This is a *good* idea. Maybe they will get 30 or 40,000 responses :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Jul 17, 2006, at 3:56 PM, jfweber@gilweber.com wrote:
my email address has been turned over to some sort of spam police .
badges, we don't need no stinken badges! I sent the guy a few directly to him... haven't heard anything back. But on that note - In the past I've done that and I started to get more spam from this address. (I use this for this list only) I may be wrong, but if you think about it, it would be a way to confirm a few hundred-thousand email addresses. Then again, it may just be a coincidence... just odd. Thanks, George
On 06/07/17 16:47 (GMT-0400) suse_gasjr4wd@mac.com apparently typed:
I sent the guy a few directly to him... haven't heard anything back.
I explained in this thread Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:22:59 -0400 exactly what happened with this particular unsubscribe request series made by my nephew. If anyone is emailing him directly via a reply to his on-list unsubscription request, which includes [SLE] in the subject line, it's not likely getting read. -- "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord', and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 3:23 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Monday 17 July 2006 17:06, Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/07/17 16:47 (GMT-0400) suse_gasjr4wd@mac.com apparently typed:
I sent the guy a few directly to him... haven't heard anything back.
I explained in this thread Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:22:59 -0400 exactly what happened with this particular unsubscribe request series made by my nephew. If anyone is emailing him directly via a reply to his on-list unsubscription request, which includes [SLE] in the subject line, it's not likely getting read.
Mayhaps you could give this person a call???? And save us all this grief???
måndaginn 17 juli 2006 23:06 skrev Felix Miata:
"If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord', and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 3:23 NIV
HAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEELLUUUUJAAAAAAA! O Lord, won't you buy me ... a mercedes benz. My friends all drive porches, I must make aaaaaa mens. :) -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
måndaginn 17 juli 2006 22:47 skrev suse_gasjr4wd@mac.com:
On Jul 17, 2006, at 3:56 PM, jfweber@gilweber.com wrote:
my email address has been turned over to some sort of spam police .
badges, we don't need no stinken badges! We are living those times, you know, where right is wrong and wrong is right. And to enforce it, we need more police to make sure the people behave.
Thanks, George hmmm ... since a bush, is a bush ... does that make you "George of the Jungle" ?
:-) -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Orn E. Hansen wrote:
hmmm ... since a bush, is a bush ... does that make you "George of the Jungle" ? one of my favorite cartoons.
There are a few things I would like to ask without getting into too much trouble (I hope) I have been noticing these unsubscribe messages and I am curious about why many have SPAM in the subject line. Did I miss the answer to that one? I have also noticed that there seems to be a sudden increase in the number of these things. I find it hard to believe that there is such a sudden increase in ignorance. Is there something else going on? Of the ones I bothered to check, I see that they are the only posts by those sending the unsubscribe requests. Though I have seen spam in the archives, I have not seen spam in the mailing list until now. That makes me wonder if there is a connection between these requests and spam. Is this possibly a new way of sending spam or harvesting addresses? Damon Register -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Damon Register
hmmm ... since a bush, is a bush ... does that make you "George of the Jungle" ? one of my favorite cartoons.
There are a few things I would like to ask without getting into too much trouble (I hope) I have been noticing these unsubscribe messages and I am curious about why many have SPAM in the subject line. Did I miss the answer to that one? I have also noticed that there seems to be a sudden increase in the number of these things. I find it hard to believe that there is such a sudden increase in ignorance. Is there something else going on? Of the ones I bothered to check, I see that they are the only posts by those sending the unsubscribe requests. Though I have seen spam in the archives, I have not seen spam in the mailing list until now. That makes me wonder if there is a connection between these requests and spam. Is this possibly a new way of sending spam or harvesting addresses? Damon Register I am also seeing these types of headers posted to my yahoo account that have nothing to do with this or any other Linux list. Somthing happening in the ISP universe?
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 17:43, Damon Register wrote:
have been noticing these unsubscribe messages and I am curious about why many have SPAM in the subject line. Did I miss the answer to that one?
I just checked one of the original msgs and it rated a 5.5 on Spamassassin and 5.0 makes it a SPAM. It also came in as an HTML message which is one of the strikes against it. I can only think that SuSE checks for spam but in any case if the mail came from a list member, it allows it through. Or some other criteria - list member + low spam score? -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 23:51, Bruce Marshall wrote:
I can only think that SuSE checks for spam but in any case if the mail came from a list member, it allows it through.
In this case it would be thoroughly redundant, since the list is closed (for-subscribers-only).
Or some other criteria - list member + low spam score?
forget the "list member" since that will always be true. Without actually asking Henne how it's set up, I'd guess it allows through borderline scores -- Ut supra post festum sunt obscura -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 17:59, Anders Johansson wrote:
Or some other criteria - list member + low spam score?
forget the "list member" since that will always be true. Without actually asking Henne how it's set up, I'd guess it allows through borderline scores
Yeh but....... if they don't check for list members then how does all that spam get into the archives? And I think all of the archive emails that are true spam also include the *SPAM in the subject line. Sounds like they should just toss anything that is not from a list member. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 00:09, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 17:59, Anders Johansson wrote:
Or some other criteria - list member + low spam score?
forget the "list member" since that will always be true. Without actually asking Henne how it's set up, I'd guess it allows through borderline scores
Yeh but....... if they don't check for list members then how does all that spam get into the archives? And I think all of the archive emails that are true spam also include the *SPAM in the subject line.
Sounds like they should just toss anything that is not from a list member.
They do. The problem is that there is a bug in the list manager used that allows people to inject things directly into the archive, bypassing the members check. There is no risk it will be sent through to subscribers, but archive readers can see them I think this has been taken care of in the new list manager being set up on opensuse.org -- Ut supra post festum sunt obscura -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 18:21, Anders Johansson wrote:
Sounds like they should just toss anything that is not from a list member.
They do. The problem is that there is a bug in the list manager used that allows people to inject things directly into the archive, bypassing the members check. There is no risk it will be sent through to subscribers, but archive readers can see them
I think this has been taken care of in the new list manager being set up on opensuse.org
It appears that it is fixed. The new set of archives looks to be spam-free. (fingers crossed) -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
From: "Damon Register"
Orn E. Hansen wrote:
hmmm ... since a bush, is a bush ... does that make you "George of the Jungle" ? one of my favorite cartoons.
There are a few things I would like to ask without getting into too much trouble (I hope)
I have been noticing these unsubscribe messages and I am curious about why many have SPAM in the subject line. Did I miss the answer to that one?
I have also noticed that there seems to be a sudden increase in the number of these things. I find it hard to believe that there is such a sudden increase in ignorance. Is there something else going on?
Of the ones I bothered to check, I see that they are the only posts by those sending the unsubscribe requests.
Though I have seen spam in the archives, I have not seen spam in the mailing list until now. That makes me wonder if there is a connection between these requests and spam. Is this possibly a new way of sending spam or harvesting addresses?
SUSE has started using SpamAssassin. Apparently their Bayesian engine is a little mis-trained. You can see this by looking for the markup messages in the headers. {^_^} Joanne -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:56 -0400, jfweber@gilweber.com wrote:
On July Monday 17 2006 1:02 am, Mike McMullin wrote in an electronic and somewhat quixotic manner:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 17:37 -0700, Curtis Rey wrote:
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On Sun July 16 2006 17:09, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
unsubscribe <snip> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
" In your case that would be eallan4@verizon.net
Curtis, send this directly to him, not the list which he probably has stopped reading.
I've tried that in the past only to get rude messages that my email address has been turned over to some sort of spam police . I repeat my call for a minimal reading comprehension test as part of activation of accounts.
I'd bet me subscription that he's gonna write back calling any further messages from the list garbage or some such. It makes sense to bypass the list and send it directly to the poster, where it stands an actual chance of being read. Just my two cents. Mike -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 05:09:19PM -0700, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
unsubscribe
I have unsubscribed him. Ciao, M -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 05:09:19PM -0700, ERIC ALLAN wrote:
unsubscribe
I have unsubscribed him.
Ciao, M
Thank you Marcus. :D - -- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEvUDf7CQBg4DqqCwRAtOSAKC6RX6/SZLg4d3sqU8dSDtYFUvRygCgxbRB IIUzLI/ADbgS/IpW8ioGNp4= =rmg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
participants (17)
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Anders Johansson
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Bruce Marshall
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BRUCE STANLEY
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Curtis Rey
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Damon Register
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ERIC ALLAN
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Felix Miata
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jdow
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Jerry Feldman
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jfweber@gilweber.com
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Ken Schneider
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Marcus Meissner
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Michael S. Dunsavage
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Mike McMullin
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Orn E. Hansen
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Patrick Shanahan
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