Hello felow SuSe people. This is slightly OT I guess. If you are not a pilot delete this message now. Or, mabe you are interested in a Freeware Flight simulation program that is being used in "real time" and "development" phases. If so, read on and follow the responses. I found and downloaded FlightGear with apt for SuSE 8.2 Works, kind of. Some instuments don't register etc.Can only open in a twilight mode, But I will install more ram before I ask about it. Don't seem to have the scenery that I need from the FlightGear package. Is there a separate package accessible by apt? I know where to find all of the tar packages but do not now if I can integrate them into the rpm libraries. Anybody out there using the SuSE version of FlightGEar? You may respond privately if you think this slightly OT. Bob S.
The 03.08.03 at 00:54, Bob S. wrote:
This is slightly OT I guess. If you are not a pilot delete this message now. Or, mabe you are interested in a Freeware Flight simulation
If you use the SuSE rpms of fgfs, it is certainly on topic ;-)
I found and downloaded FlightGear with apt for SuSE 8.2 Works, kind of. Some instuments don't register etc.Can only open in a twilight mode, But I will install more ram before I ask about it.
Did you try the version on the CDs first?
Don't seem to have the scenery that I need from the FlightGear package.
The SuSE CDs only have the default scenery files: /usr/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/w130n30/w122n37/* /usr/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37/*
Is there a separate package accessible by apt? I know where to find all of the tar packages but do not now if I can integrate them into the rpm libraries.
Just download the needed tars from the main site or a mirror, somewhere in flightgear.sourceforge.org. They are just data files, no compilation needed. I have some I downloaded a year ago, and they work with the present version: the new ones have changed, but the old ones work as well, but perhaps have less gadgetry. Mind, they are huge. I think I heard somewhere that it was possible to download scenery as you fly, but I'm not sure if I really read it, or imagined.
Anybody out there using the SuSE version of FlightGEar?
Me! But I'm certainly no real pilot. I'd like to try a newer version, but the source download is over 30 megabytes, a lot for a modem.
You may respond privately if you think this slightly OT.
I don't really think it is off topic. By the way... I'm interested to know if force feedback joysticks work in Linux; and even if the feedback is not supported, what do they do: whether they behave as a normal joystick, spring loaded, or just fall to one side. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Sunday 03 August 2003 06:55, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.08.03 at 00:54, Bob S. wrote:
This is slightly OT I guess. ..<snip>...
If you use the SuSE rpms of fgfs, it is certainly on topic ;-)
Did you try the version on the CDs first?
No, didn't know it was on there, and Yast didn't find it. It is 8.2 Personal.
Don't seem to have the scenery that I need from the FlightGear package.
The SuSE CDs only have the default scenery files:
/usr/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/w130n30/w122n37/* /usr/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37/*
Yep, That is all I have. Evidently downloaded with FlightGear
Is there a separate package accessible by apt? I know where to find all of the tar packages but do not now if I can integrate them into the rpm libraries.
Just download the needed tars from the main site or a mirror, somewhere in flightgear.sourceforge.org. They are just data files, no compilation needed.
OK, where do I put them? In scenery? In W130n30? And will FlightGear know they are there?
I have some I downloaded a year ago, and they work with the present version: the new ones have changed, but the old ones work as well, but perhaps have less gadgetry. Mind, they are huge.
Yep, I know. A bit much for my modem, but I will give it a try.
I think I heard somewhere that it was possible to download scenery as you fly, but I'm not sure if I really read it, or imagined.
Welllllll,,,,I think I will wait and see if I can get everything going before I try that.
Anybody out there using the SuSE version of FlightGEar?
Me! But I'm certainly no real pilot. I'd like to try a newer version, but the source download is over 30 megabytes, a lot for a modem.
Welll,,, I guess I am, or at least used to be until I lost my medical -eyesight - this past May. The only thing left for me is computer flying. If you would like to see my prize winning Lancair ES, which is now for sale, go to www.hiddenlake.net/Experimental.htm
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By the way... I'm interested to know if force feedback joysticks work in Linux; and even if the feedback is not supported, what do they do: whether they behave as a normal joystick, spring loaded, or just fall to one side.
Can't tell you Carlos. I'm using my 10 year old CH Flightstick.Haven't even tried the rudder pedals yet. Probably have to go out and buy a newer more modern version. Bob S.
The 03.08.04 at 00:42, Bob S. wrote:
Did you try the version on the CDs first?
No, didn't know it was on there, and Yast didn't find it. It is 8.2 Personal.
Ah! I forgot, that maybe the personal version doesnt have it.
OK, where do I put them? In scenery? In W130n30? And will FlightGear know they are there?
Yes, under "/usr/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/". Each tar file contains a geographical zone. In the FlightGear home page there is a world map where you can click on the zone you want to download (or you can use the ftp server if you know the name before hand), and there are instructions there. Nothing to it, once expanded will be used straight away.
Welll,,, I guess I am, or at least used to be until I lost my medical -eyesight - this past May. The only thing left for me is computer flying. If you would like to see my prize winning Lancair ES, which is now for sale, go to www.hiddenlake.net/Experimental.htm
Sorry about that. Pitty a simulator with hydraulics and such is to big to fit on a house, and several times my income, otherwise... :-) I'll have a look when I connect again at that web page.
By the way... I'm interested to know if force feedback joysticks work in Linux; and even if the feedback is not supported, what do they do: whether they behave as a normal joystick, spring loaded, or just fall to one side.
Can't tell you Carlos. I'm using my 10 year old CH Flightstick.
Me too! just a square box with a stick, two buttons, adjustement pots, and spring release. It was good for FS when I bought it, about 1991 ;-) Nowdays joysticks have changed a lot. Big, lots of extra buttons and axis (x, y, twist and power is the minimun, without using pedals). I tried the microsoft feedback thing a few years ago, and it was astonishing: with a machine gun the handle trembled and made it more difficult to point and shoot X-) I know that M$ Flight Simulator can handle those (I'm unsure about FlightGear), and the experience is far more realistic. As I never tried the real thing, it is the nearest I can try - except paying some one for 10 minutes on an ultra light aircraft, of course.
Haven't even tried the rudder pedals yet. Probably have to go out and buy a newer more modern version.
If the one you have is like mine, there is a huge difference. And problably they cost about the same we paid for it years ago. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 21:54, Bob S. wrote:
Hello felow SuSe people.
This is slightly OT I guess. If you are not a pilot delete this message now. Or, mabe you are interested in a Freeware Flight simulation program that is being used in "real time" and "development" phases. If so, read on and follow the responses.
Certainly quite a few real pilots using FGFS. I cannot afford it...
I found and downloaded FlightGear with apt for SuSE 8.2 Works, kind of. Some instuments don't register etc.Can only open in a twilight mode, But I will install more ram before I ask about it.
How much RAM do you have? Which version of FlightGear are you using?
Don't seem to have the scenery that I need from the FlightGear package. Is there a separate package accessible by apt? I know where to find all of the tar packages but do not now if I can integrate them into the rpm libraries.
You can download them from here: http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/ Near the bottom of this page you'll see it.
Anybody out there using the SuSE version of FlightGEar?
I did, but FlightGear is always improving, therefore I moved over to a CVS update version. But, the one on the SuSE CD's was pretty good.
You may respond privately if you think this slightly OT.
Its not off topic really, you're using SuSE :). But I would recommend going to http://www.flightgear.org if you have not already, maybe join the user and development mailing lists perhaps.
Bob S.
On Sunday 03 August 2003 14:22, Matthew Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 21:54, Bob S. wrote:
Hello felow SuSe people.
This is slightly OT I guess. If you are not a pilot delete this message now....<snip>
Certainly quite a few real pilots using FGFS. I cannot afford it..
I hope you mean the "real pilot" part. You can certainly afford FlightGear. But, let me tell you: if you are an avid simulator flyer you are certainly a lot better than many "real pilots" in understanding the dynamics of flight. Especially if you get into the advanced areas like IFR flight conditions. Wouldn't mind having somebody aboard like you, who understood the situation, when the going got tough.
I found and downloaded FlightGear with apt for SuSE 8.2 Works, kind of. Some instuments don't register etc.Can only open in a twilight mode, But I will install more ram before I ask about it.
How much RAM do you have? Which version of FlightGear are you using?
Only have 128mb of ram at present. Saw an ad though in Office Depot that is offering 256 mb sticks of 133SD ram at $25 a stick after rebate. Probably being headed there tomorrow for two or three sticks.
.....<snip about scenery>.....
Anybody out there using the SuSE version of FlightGEar?
I did, but FlightGear is always improving, therefore I moved over to a CVS update version. But, the one on the SuSE CD's was pretty good.
Thanks, will go with what I have for now. Maybe in the future for CVS
Keep on Flying !!! Bob S.
The 03.08.04 at 01:20, Bob S. wrote:
I hope you mean the "real pilot" part. You can certainly afford FlightGear. But, let me tell you: if you are an avid simulator flyer you are certainly a lot better than many "real pilots" in understanding the dynamics of flight. Especially if you get into the advanced areas like IFR flight conditions. Wouldn't mind having somebody aboard like you, who understood the situation, when the going got tough.
That's the good thing about simulators, that you can try out situations that in real life are costly and dangerous to try - and train for -. On the other hand, on the "real life" the sit jerks and moves about in response to your actions on the controls: the brain read the body position and responses (specially from the inner ear) and takes all that into account, as feedback, so that the hands change the stick position. In this kind of cheap simulator, we only have sight. By the way, try "--aircraft=ufo" with flightgear. Totally unreal ;-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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