Hi all, I have a Radeon 7500 AGP card with SuSE 8.2 Pro, stock k_athlon kernel. It worked a charm when I installed, hardware 3D and everything. Today, for the first time in more than a month, I wanted to play a quick round of Tuxracer - slow as a dog. Somewhere along the line something broke, I suspect with a YOU update. I tried all the regular fixes, everything mentioned in the archives - sax2, switch2xf86_glx, updated to XFree86-server-4.3.0-63 with YOU, compiled a new vanilla kernel, ect. all to no avail. XFree logs tells me DRI is disabled because DRIscreeninit failed. Any ideas why? Here is the relevant sections from the logs, plus some output from 3Ddiag and glxinfo: (II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (6, PCI:1:0:0), Device or resource busy (EE) RADEON(0): DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. (II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1024,8191) (II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024,770) (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 7421 (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Scanline Image Writes Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 32 256x256 slots 16 512x512 slots (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 770) (II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 7413 (**) Option "dpms" (**) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled (II) RADEON(0): v4l[/dev/video0]: using hw video scaling [YUY2]. (WW) RADEON(0): Option "Rotate" is not used (WW) RADEON(0): Option "CalcAlgorithm" is not used (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (**) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM [snip] 3Ddiag: ======= hans@sigaar:~/.tuxracer> 3Ddiag 3Ddiag version 0.691 Verifying 3D configuration: Using 3dinfo ************************************************************ Verifying 3D configuration based on XFree86 4 for 3D board "ATI Technologies Inc RV200 QW (1002@5157)": Tests for package "XFree86-GLX": package ... done. package files ... done. Tests for correct OpenGL libraries/GLX extensions: Symbolic Links ... done. /etc/sysconfig/3ddiag (SCRIPT_3D=switch2xf86_glx) ... done. Test for correct XFree86 version ... done. Tests for XFree86 configuration: Config File /etc/X11/XF86Config ... done. Driver ... done. Color Depth ... done. Extensions ... done. Options ... done. ----------------------- NOTE ----------------------------------- If 3D hardware OpenGL configuration is not stable enough, you should switch back to 'Mesa Software Rendering'. You can verify this configuration with the command "3Ddiag --mesasoft". ----------------------- NOTE ----------------------------------- Checking GLU/glut runtime configuration: GLU ... done (package mesaglu) glut ... done (package mesaglut) hans@sigaar:~/.tuxracer> glxinfo: ======== hans@sigaar:~/.tuxracer> glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.2 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x23 16 tc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 16 tc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None 0x25 16 tc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x26 16 tc 1 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x27 16 dc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x28 16 dc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None 0x29 16 dc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2a 16 dc 1 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None hans@sigaar:~/.tuxracer> Thanks Hans
On Sunday 07 September 2003 07:37 am, H du Plooy wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Radeon 7500 AGP card with SuSE 8.2 Pro, stock k_athlon kernel. It worked a charm when I installed, hardware 3D and everything. Today, for the first time in more than a month, I wanted to play a quick round of Tuxracer - slow as a dog.
Somewhere along the line something broke, I suspect with a YOU update. I tried all the regular fixes, everything mentioned in the archives - sax2, switch2xf86_glx, updated to XFree86-server-4.3.0-63 with YOU, compiled a new vanilla kernel, ect. all to no avail.
XFree logs tells me DRI is disabled because DRIscreeninit failed. Any ideas why?
Here is the relevant sections from the logs, plus some output from 3Ddiag and glxinfo: [...] Thanks Hans ==============
Hans, When this happened to me, I traced it down to a kernel update, using one of Mantel's 2.4.21 kernels. Up until this last one, the 2.4.21-64, 3D had a problem due to a bug in the 2.4.21 kernel, I believe, but the SuSE kernel 2.4.20-100 worked fine. Try to do a little detective work and go back to the last time that it worked. See what you have installed since then. I haven't found any of the YOU updates or KDE updates as causing any such problems. From your logs, it appears to me to be the same bug as direct rendering is off. That's how I found it at least, but reading /var/log/messages back to the last time it worked then checking the dates of files for what was installed about that same time. Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 17:19, BandiPat wrote:
Try to do a little detective work and go back to the last time that it worked. See what you have installed since then.
That's exactly what I did - the only thing that changed since the last time it worked is that YOU did an update on XFree. Can't be a kernel bug (not on my hardware) since it did work before. I'm just trying to understand WHY it doesn't work - there has to be a reason Thanks Hans
On Sunday 07 September 2003 02:31 pm, H du Plooy wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 17:19, BandiPat wrote:
Try to do a little detective work and go back to the last time that it worked. See what you have installed since then.
That's exactly what I did - the only thing that changed since the last time it worked is that YOU did an update on XFree.
Can't be a kernel bug (not on my hardware) since it did work before.
I'm just trying to understand WHY it doesn't work - there has to be a reason
Thanks Hans ===============
It's not the XFree86 update, I can assure you as that has never misbehaved that I am aware of here. Have you tried a different kernel? When did it last work on your system? Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 22:02, BandiPat wrote:
It's not the XFree86 update, I can assure you as that has never misbehaved that I am aware of here. Have you tried a different kernel? When did it last work on your system?
Pat
I tried a vanilla 2.4.21 to see if that would remedy it, but it didn't help. I'm back on the stock SuSE one. The only apps I installed in the meantime was MPlayer, lame and a few related media apps, a newer version of OpenOffice and Evolution packages from ulb. Nothing as far as I could tell that should break my graphics. The reason why I suspect it might be the XFree update, is because one of the packages was described as "libraries for XFree86" The DRI module seems be have some something to do with the libraries - I think it's named libdri, if I remember correctly. I'm baffled, really. I'll keep digging and keep you posted. Hans
On Sunday 07 September 2003 05:52 pm, H du Plooy wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 22:02, BandiPat wrote:
It's not the XFree86 update, I can assure you as that has never misbehaved that I am aware of here. Have you tried a different kernel? When did it last work on your system?
Pat
I tried a vanilla 2.4.21 to see if that would remedy it, but it didn't help. I'm back on the stock SuSE one. The only apps I installed in the meantime was MPlayer, lame and a few related media apps, a newer version of OpenOffice and Evolution packages from ulb. Nothing as far as I could tell that should break my graphics.
The reason why I suspect it might be the XFree update, is because one of the packages was described as "libraries for XFree86" The DRI module seems be have some something to do with the libraries - I think it's named libdri, if I remember correctly.
I'm baffled, really. I'll keep digging and keep you posted.
Hans ============
I can imagine it is quite baffling, but you'll find it. The only thing I can think of again is to check your /var/log/messages to find the date & time it last worked for you and start your search from that. Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 03:46, BandiPat wrote:
I can imagine it is quite baffling, but you'll find it. The only thing I can think of again is to check your /var/log/messages to find the date & time it last worked for you and start your search from that.
Pat
9.6mb later... This is the only thing I found that is of any relevance. It looks exactly the same, all the way from the first boot to the last: Jun 29 18:39:14 sigaar kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann Jun 29 18:39:14 sigaar kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M Jun 29 18:39:14 sigaar kernel: agpgart: Detected Via Apollo Pro KT133 chipset Jun 29 18:39:14 sigaar kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe0000000 Jun 29 18:39:14 sigaar kernel: [drm] AGP 0.99 aperture @ 0xe0000000 128MB Jun 29 18:39:14 sigaar kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.7.0 20020828 on minor 0 The only thing that looks slightly out of place is the third line. My board has a KT133A chipset, not KT133. But I don't think this should make any difference. I'll keep digging... Thanks Hans
Bandipat, thanks for your efforts. Lots of scratching around and I still havent found the problem. But it magically sorted itself out (that or it just needed a reboot) and when I tried gears today it worked. Sort of. The framerates aren't what I expect, they're only about double what I used to get on a TNT2 Vanta 16mb. The gears are jerky, and I also notice that gears don't use 100% CPU like it used to. Card is a Powercolor Radeon 7500 with 128mb DDR. Are these scores right? 1024x768 16 bit full screen: hans@sigaar:~> gears 850 frames in 5.005 seconds = 169.830 FPS 851 frames in 5.001 seconds = 170.166 FPS 850 frames in 5.001 seconds = 169.966 FPS 849 frames in 5.001 seconds = 169.766 FPS 851 frames in 5.000 seconds = 170.200 FPS 849 frames in 5.000 seconds = 169.800 FPS 851 frames in 5.004 seconds = 170.064 FPS hans@sigaar:~> 1024x768 16 bit windowed: hans@sigaar:~> gears 5187 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1037.400 FPS 5267 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.400 FPS 5266 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.200 FPS 5266 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.200 FPS 5267 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.400 FPS 5278 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1055.600 FPS 5266 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.200 FPS 5263 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1052.600 FPS hans@sigaar:~> Thanks Hans
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 06:21 am, H du Plooy wrote:
Bandipat, thanks for your efforts. Lots of scratching around and I still havent found the problem.
But it magically sorted itself out (that or it just needed a reboot) and when I tried gears today it worked. Sort of. The framerates aren't what I expect, they're only about double what I used to get on a TNT2 Vanta 16mb. The gears are jerky, and I also notice that gears don't use 100% CPU like it used to.
Card is a Powercolor Radeon 7500 with 128mb DDR. Are these scores right?
1024x768 16 bit full screen:
hans@sigaar:~> gears 850 frames in 5.005 seconds = 169.830 FPS 851 frames in 5.001 seconds = 170.166 FPS 850 frames in 5.001 seconds = 169.966 FPS 849 frames in 5.001 seconds = 169.766 FPS 851 frames in 5.000 seconds = 170.200 FPS 849 frames in 5.000 seconds = 169.800 FPS 851 frames in 5.004 seconds = 170.064 FPS hans@sigaar:~>
1024x768 16 bit windowed:
hans@sigaar:~> gears 5187 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1037.400 FPS 5267 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.400 FPS 5266 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.200 FPS 5266 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.200 FPS 5267 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.400 FPS 5278 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1055.600 FPS 5266 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1053.200 FPS 5263 frames in 5.000 seconds = 1052.600 FPS hans@sigaar:~>
Thanks Hans ===============
Hans, That looks satisfactory to me as I compare it to my 7200 I was using prior to the 9200 I have now. You still may not be getting the full use of your agp, but this should be nice for all your 3D stuff. Ben, I believe is running the 7500 or was, so he may be able to comment further on your results. Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 18:16, BandiPat wrote:
Ben, I believe is running the 7500 or was, so he may be able to comment further on your results.
Pat
Thanks, I looked it up and his post actually suggested about double what I get. But then, he might have a better card than mine, like a genuine ATi as opposed to my PowerColor. At least it works fine and tuxracer in 1024x768 runs at about 100 fps which is more than enough for me. I'm happy! :-) Thanks again Hans
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