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Parshwa Murdia

22 Jan 2011 22 Jan '11

14:47

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

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First, take a look at

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http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent from the page: http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS? -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia Making the simple complicated is commonplace, making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's innovation.. -C Mingus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Michael S. Dunsavage

22 Jan 22 Jan

14:53

New subject: [opensuse] Absolute beginners trouble

On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

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First, take a look at

...
http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list..... -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Parshwa Murdia

15:00

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

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First, take a look at

...
http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

-- Michael S. Dunsavage

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Correct, but I hope that you might have not gone with the original thread of it, please have a look in sequence! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia Making the simple complicated is commonplace, making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's innovation.. -C Mingus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

phanisvara das

15:02

New subject: [opensuse] Absolute beginners trouble

On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:23:56 +0530, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

earlier somebody commented that he might get help here, on these lists/forums, even for problems with other distros. even at that time i thought this wasn't a good idea, but i'm something of a 'nobody' here, so didn't contradict [whoever]; but it isn't parshwa's fault for asking. IF somebody here has experience with that PC-linux distro they'll tell you; but i think it's unlikely. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage

15:14

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On 01/22/2011 10:02 AM, phantasmagoria das wrote:

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:23:56 +0530, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

earlier somebody commented that he might get help here, on these lists/forums, even for problems with other distros. even at that time i thought this wasn't a good idea, but i'm something of a 'nobody' here, so didn't contradict [whoever]; but it isn't parshwa's fault for asking.

IF somebody here has experience with that PC-linux distro they'll tell you; but i think it's unlikely.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=12 links where to find pclinuxos support http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/ pclinuxos forums -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Richard Creighton

19:55

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On 2011-01-22 Michael offered the following:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: <snip>

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but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

While what you say is true, the OP *IS* very much a beginner who originally asked his question in this forum maillist regarding openSUSE and *I* answered him suggesting to him that he look at PCLinuxOS FIRST because of his requirements and that I felt it more suited to his INITIAL needs as a convert from Doze and that he would probably end up with openSUSE as he gained experience because of its' completeness. As PCLinuxOS does not have a mailing list and as GENERAL questions about Linux regardless of distro aren't totally inappropriate for this forum, and given that the OP isn't yet in a position to know where to ask what, it was reasonable to ask questions here. The particular question was about a particular distro, which might have been better asked in the PCLinuxOS FORUM, and thankfully, a later reply gave the OP the link to that FORUM as an answer. I suggest that would have been a better response than a curt 'get lost, you're in the wrong place' type reply to an admitted newbie. Don'tcha think? Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage

20:01

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On 01/22/2011 02:55 PM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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On 2011-01-22 Michael offered the following:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

While what you say is true, the OP *IS* very much a beginner who originally asked his question in this forum maillist regarding openSUSE and *I* answered him suggesting to him that he look at PCLinuxOS FIRST because of his requirements and that I felt it more suited to his INITIAL needs as a convert from Doze and that he would probably end up with openSUSE as he gained experience because of its' completeness. As PCLinuxOS does not have a mailing list and as GENERAL questions about Linux regardless of distro aren't totally inappropriate for this forum, and given that the OP isn't yet in a position to know where to ask what, it was reasonable to ask questions here. The particular question was about a particular distro, which might have been better asked in the PCLinuxOS FORUM, and thankfully, a later reply gave the OP the link to that FORUM as an answer. I suggest that would have been a better response than a curt 'get lost, you're in the wrong place' type reply to an admitted newbie. Don'tcha think?

Richard

Did you notice who posted the forum link? -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Richard Creighton

20:49

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On 2011-01-22 Michael offered the following:

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On 01/22/2011 02:55 PM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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On 2011-01-22 Michael offered the following:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: <snip>

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but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

While what you say is true, the OP *IS* very much a beginner who originally asked his question in this forum maillist regarding openSUSE and *I* answered him suggesting to him that he look at PCLinuxOS FIRST because of his requirements and that I felt it more suited to his INITIAL needs as a convert from Doze and that he would probably end up with openSUSE as he gained experience because of its' completeness. As PCLinuxOS does not have a mailing list and as GENERAL questions about Linux regardless of distro aren't totally inappropriate for this forum, and given that the OP isn't yet in a position to know where to ask what, it was reasonable to ask questions here. The particular question was about a particular distro, which might have been better asked in the PCLinuxOS FORUM, and thankfully, a later reply gave the OP the link to that FORUM as an answer. I suggest that would have been a better response than a curt 'get lost, you're in the wrong place' type reply to an admitted newbie. Don'tcha think?

Richard

Did you notice who posted the forum link?

Yes, you did, and I worded my response poorly I guess, I suppose I should have said that your your later information should have been included in addition to, or instead of a curt reply <grin>. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Duaine Hechler

21:09

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On 01/22/2011 08:53 AM, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

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First, take a look at

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http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

Damn, Michael, cut the guy a break - he is a newbie after all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler@att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 11 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsaavage

21:21

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On 1/22/2011 4:09 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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On 01/22/2011 08:53 AM, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

...
First, take a look at

...
http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

Damn, Michael, cut the guy a break - he is a newbie after all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay. it's not like I actually cursed the guy out or called him any bad names. Being a newbie also means when posting to a mail list you should read the rules of the mail list. It's hard enough to keep things on topic on this list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Duaine Hechler

21:44

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On 01/22/2011 03:21 PM, Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:

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On 1/22/2011 4:09 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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Damn, Michael, cut the guy a break - he is a newbie after all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay. it's not like I actually cursed the guy out or called him any bad names. Being a newbie also means when posting to a mail list you should read the rules of the mail list. It's hard enough to keep things on topic on this list. Maybe he's such a newbie, that he's never read nor knows where the "rules" of this list are.

At least he was talking about Linux - and - not something that Windows Only or BeOS, etc. For than matter, I'm not sure if I've ever read the rules either - I just use common sense and common courtesy. Which is why I'm astounded when the thread keeps appearing over the argument over top vs bottom posting. (NOT wanting to start this argument again) Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler@att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 11 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mike McMullin

23 Jan 23 Jan

03:38

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On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 16:21 -0500, Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:

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On 1/22/2011 4:09 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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On 01/22/2011 08:53 AM, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

...
First, take a look at

...
http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

This *is* an openSUSE list.....

Damn, Michael, cut the guy a break - he is a newbie after all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay. it's not like I actually cursed the guy out or called him any bad names. Being a newbie also means when posting to a mail list you should read the rules of the mail list.

Seems quite logical on the face of it, but illogical in reality, newbs are newbs,and often quite green in many areas, I was once, and I did not know about list rules and etiquette when I joined my first list, which was years after I started using Linux. Just a thought.

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It's hard enough to keep things on topic on this list.

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Richard Creighton

22 Jan 22 Jan

19:38

New subject: [opensuse] Absolute beginners trouble

On 2011-01-22 Parshwa offered the following:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS

First, take a look at

http://pclosmag.com/

I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

It's easier than e=mc2 It's elemental It's light years ahead It's a wise choice It's Radically Simple It's ... PCLinuxOS <grin> Actually, it is as stable as any of the Linux distros and more so than most because it is very well tested before it is released...eg, it is not 'cutting edge' versions released out the door in an attempt to 'be first'. It lags a little bit and incorporates the bug fixes found by many of the 'competitors' that did get it out the door first. This tends to lead to stability. This doesn't mean that it is unable to perform, it just means that what it does do doesn't tend to interrupt you with bugs very often, and what bugs are there are almost always in the rest of the distros also, and also unfixed there also....and you have found one of the lesser known uncommon oopses. It is not uncommon to have a machine not need a reboot for months and in some cases, you are more likely to have a power failure than need a reboot due to a failure of Linux itself. Also, I suggest that the downloads of the CD versions take so little time being only a few hundred meg or so in some cases, that the torrent versions can actually take much longer to download and can be frustrating, but YMMV. On a DVD, a torrent could be a better choice, but with PCLinuxOS, there aren't any (that i know of) to download, as all are LiveCD releases. Again, check out several of the the LiveCD versions to see which you like best, and remember, you can create a disk installation of multiple desktop environments at any time if you share your system and you like one and someone else prefers another....you can each have your preferences without interference. Linux is about CHOICE....YOUR Choice, not some manufacture that makes youu PAY through the nose over and over each time THEY change their minds, AND, Linux makes the VIRUS kiddies work very hard to compromise your system so if you are even a little bit smart, in addition to stability, your system is much more SECURE. Again, Welcome to Linux! Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Doug

23:05

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On 01/22/2011 09:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Richard Creighton wrote:

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PCLinusOS First, take a look at http://pclosmag.com/ I have started the torrent download of the file

pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso.torrent

from the page:

http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/191/torrents

but can you comment on the stability of this PCLOS?

I have been using PCLOS since last July or so. I have it on a desktop and a laptop. I'm not sure what you mean by "stability" but it is as stable as most any Linux, as far as not hanging or crashing, and definitely more stable in that sense than Windows 7, which I also have and use, on occasion. (I just had to get rid of the DoubleClick virus on Win 7, which made the machine extremely slow when it would work at all.) And like all Linuxes, not everything you'd like to have is available: WordPerfect, for example, is a better word processor (IMHO) than Word or OO, but you can't get it on Linux anymore, and the old version won't install. There are some engineering routines that you can't get on Linux. But that is not a function of PCLOS. PCLOS is a KDE distro, so in theory, at least, anything that you can get for Suse or Fedora should be available for PCLOS. In practice, it may take some digging. I think the Synaptic package manager is simpler to deal with than YAST--Suse's pm. (Note: I haven't seen YAST in over a year, so it may have been improved.) With a few exceptions, I use PCLOS all the time, instead of Windows or other Linux distros that I have available--Debian, Ubuntu, MINT, and Zorin. If I had to pick a different one, it would most likely be MINT. My 2¢--doug Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsaavage

23:42

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On 1/22/2011 6:05 PM, Doug wrote:

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I think the Synaptic package manager is simpler to deal with than YAST--Suse's pm. (Note: I haven't seen YAST in over a year, so it may have been improved.) YAST is not a package manager. It stands for Yet Another Setup Tool.

zypper is the package manager. But yes, Yast in version 10.x something or the other wasn't so good, but it's great now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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