Hi; With the progress that Suse made,can we nowadays say Linux is as versatile as Windows?In terms of reading streaming video,DVD,music-files etc... So,do I need Windows still? (I hope not...) Is there a replacement for Media Player? Jean-Paul Faessen
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 06:49 pm, you wrote:
Hi;
With the progress that Suse made,can we nowadays say Linux is as versatile as Windows?In terms of reading streaming video,DVD,music-files etc... So,do I need Windows still?
No. RealPlayer should work quite well. Noatun (KDE Media) is broken in some of the beta KDE 2.2 and 2.1.x desktops but should be fixed in the final relase of KDE 2.2. KDE 2.2 final comes out Monday 13 August. Koffice is due for 20 August.
Is there a replacement for Media Player?
Real Player 8, Noatun, gtv (an mpeg player, In SuSE 7.2 Personal and Pro).
Jean-Paul Faessen
-- Cheers, Jonathan
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:49 pm, Jean-Paul Faessen wrote:
With the progress that Suse made,can we nowadays say Linux is as versatile as Windows?In terms of reading streaming video,DVD,music-files etc... So,do I need Windows still? (I hope not...) Is there a replacement for Media Player?
I ditched Windows completely this month (to be fare I expect that my kids will have 98 later in the year specifically for school work). Re. SuSE (Linux in general) I find that the pros far outweigh the cons. I tend to play around with PHP and Perl mostly, and bring work home, which I can do using StarOffice. As far as multimedia goes, I've had problems with noatun (although it works with 7.2 KDE 2.1.2) but use FreeAmp and the CD player frequently. I haven't done anything with video or DVD but my Elsa TNT2 Pro works really well with the new NVidia drivers; I'm not a big gamer but Quake 3 Arena seems to run much smoother under Linux than win32. Go for it! M
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 11:43:32AM +0000, Martin Webster wrote:
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:49 pm, Jean-Paul Faessen wrote:
With the progress that Suse made,can we nowadays say Linux is as versatile as Windows?In terms of reading streaming video,DVD,music-files etc... So,do I need Windows still? (I hope not...) Is there a replacement for Media Player?
<snip> What you must realise is that Linux is a rapidly evolving product, with all that that implies. Most of the kind of software you might expect under Windows is available for Linux (although it is a bit deficient in terms of games), also the hardware support is not as extensive as Window's (for example ISDN terminal adapters,as I have just discovered, are poorly supported). However, in a sense comparing Windows with Linux is like comparing chalk with cheese, consider you have a true mult-tasking, multi-user system, no "blue screen of deaths" and a wealth of support from a variety of databases and mailing lists such as this one. I think you will get a lot of positive response from Linux people, Suse in particular (which I criticise to death btw) is definitely up there at or near the top of fine distributions. You must be aware of the downside (if I may call it that), there is no Internet Explorer, this may not be considered a loss, but many sites do "optimise" for Microsoft (i.e. they use all the non-standard Front Page extensions), which means such sites are sometimes hard to read or even (as I discovered yesterday) refuse to let you browse without Explorer ! This may change under customer pressure..let us hope so. Linux and Windows can co-exist on a PC, so I suggest you install it and play for a while; you will have a learning curve, but that can be interesting. Go for it. Good Luck ! Cliff p.s. a Tip, avoid Redhat Linux .. it is bad news !
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Sarginson" <cliff@raggedclown.net> To: "Martin Webster" <mwebster@ntlworld.com> Cc: "Jean-Paul Faessen" <faessen.godin@pandora.be>; <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] 7.2 question...
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 11:43:32AM +0000, Martin Webster wrote:
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:49 pm, Jean-Paul Faessen wrote:
With the progress that Suse made,can we nowadays say Linux is as versatile as Windows?In terms of reading streaming video,DVD,music-files etc... So,do I need Windows still? (I hope not...) Is there a replacement for Media Player?
<snip> What you must realise is that Linux is a rapidly evolving product, with all that that implies. Most of the kind of software you might expect under Windows is available for Linux (although it is a bit deficient in terms of games), also the hardware support is not as extensive as Window's (for example ISDN terminal adapters,as I have just discovered, are poorly supported). However, in a sense comparing Windows with Linux is like comparing chalk with cheese, consider you have a true mult-tasking, multi-user system, no "blue screen of deaths" and a wealth of support from a variety of databases and mailing lists such as this one. I think you will get a lot of positive response from Linux people, Suse in particular (which I criticise to death btw) is definitely up there at or near the top of fine distributions.
You must be aware of the downside (if I may call it that), there is no Internet Explorer, this may not be considered a loss, but many sites do "optimise" for Microsoft (i.e. they use all the non-standard Front Page extensions), which means such sites are sometimes hard to read or even (as I discovered yesterday) refuse to let you browse without Explorer ! This may change under customer pressure..let us hope so.
Linux and Windows can co-exist on a PC, so I suggest you install it and play for a while; you will have a learning curve, but that can be interesting.
Go for it. Good Luck !
Cliff
p.s. a Tip, avoid Redhat Linux .. it is bad news !
Cliff; I'm not a Linux-beginner.I use Suse7.0 Professional already a long time and I find it supperior to Windows. One thing,I missed Media Player as one of my friends makes animationfilms and sents me samples to 'have a look' and I could never do it. That's what I hope is solved by the release of the 2.4 kernel. I have Progeny Debian here,but doesn't want to install on my pentium 100. So I'm waiting for my AMD 1200 to arrive this week! Jean-Paul Faessen
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 06:38:59PM +0200, Jean-Paul Faessen wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Sarginson" <cliff@raggedclown.net> To: "Martin Webster" <mwebster@ntlworld.com> Cc: "Jean-Paul Faessen" <faessen.godin@pandora.be>; <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] 7.2 question...
I'm not a Linux-beginner.I use Suse7.0 Professional already a long time and I find it supperior to Windows.
Oops, sorry your question sounded a bit like you were considering Linux .. By the way is it really July where you live ? Cliff
On Saturday 11 August 2001 11:09 am, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
You must be aware of the downside (if I may call it that), there is no Internet Explorer, this may not be considered a loss, but many sites do "optimise" for Microsoft (i.e. they use all the non-standard Front Page extensions), which means such sites are
FrontPage extensions aren't served to the Web browser - just depreciated or proprietry tags. Konqueror is one of the best browsers available today (just people haven't realised it yet). It's up there with IE5 in terms of supporting the most current W3C standards. Unfortunalely, many Web designers (and script developers) don't write compliant HTML.
sometimes hard to read or even (as I discovered yesterday) refuse to let you browse without Explorer ! This may change under customer pressure..let us hope so.
Go to the KDE Contol Centre->Web browsing->User agent and change useragent string for that site and you'll get in. M
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:09:27 +0200 Lourens replied to Cliff: [large snip] " You must be aware of the downside (if I may call it that), there " is no Internet Explorer, this may not be considered a loss, but " many sites do "optimise" for Microsoft (i.e. they use all the " non-standard Front Page extensions), which means such sites are " sometimes hard to read or even (as I discovered yesterday) " refuse to let you browse without Explorer ! This may change " under customer pressure..let us hope so. [end large snip] You may like to try Opera. It can advertise itself as being IE, Nutscape, Mozilla, Opera, ... M$ users feel at home with it. My 0.02c worth. *** You have one of those too?!? My family and friends thought I was crazy when I bought my anti-alien abduction hat to protect my thoughts. But they'll find out. Boy will they find out. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional Registered Linux User Lourens Steenkamp Republic of South Africa _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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