--- Peter B Van Campen wrote:

Dear Charles,

I have seen this same prob in Win XP with a Visiontek XTASY Everything card/tuner combo. So this is likely to be a h/w glitch.

PeterB

Peter, Thank you for your response. I hope it is not a h/w glitch, but you may very well be correct that it is. I will have to investigate further... Regards, Charles __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

--- "Bryan S.Tyson" wrote:

On Thursday 24 October 2002 08:23 am, Charles Griffin wrote:

...

Thank you for your response. �I hope it is not a h/w glitch, but you may very well be correct that it is. I will have to investigate further...

I think it is not a hardware glitch. I once had a Hauppauge WinTV that did this. I knew it was fine because in Windows the sound would stop when closing the tuner software. I never did figure out why it would not stop in Linux. It only happened to me on that one system. I have never had it happen again.

Bryan, Thanks for your reply. I may have found the answer, but I'm not at my linux box so I'll have to try it tonight. It might be that the bttv module is not unloading when I quit xawtv, so perhaps a simple rmmod bttv will work. Charles __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Charles Griffin wrote:

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It might be that the bttv module is not unloading when I quit xawtv, so perhaps a simple rmmod bttv will work.

FWIW, I have confirmed the solution to my problem:

"rmmod bttv"

terminated the sound from my TV card.

Hopefully, someone will find this useful someday. :-)

Here is something else with bttv, back in my 7.3 version of suse, the bttv module was loaded and unloaded by the application, like xawtv. Now with 8.1, the bttv module gets loaded whenever X starts, and stays loaded. I guess the newer version of X loads it automatically, even if I don't use an app that needs it. Hmmm.... I wonder if that could be exploited as an "audio bug". I think these newer versions of suse are starting too many things "auto-magically". For instance, I just wanted to start my firewall with yast2, but it says I had to start sshd too. I had to edit my init files manually. Another example: I wanted to start cups, but I couldn't do it unless I started USB hardware scan, and inetd. Once again, I had to edit the files manually. I am sorry to say this, but yast was the reason I originally moved to SuSE, now it's become a nightmare which I avoid, so it dosn't mess up my setup. :-( -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation

--- zentara wrote:

Here is something else with bttv, back in my 7.3 version of suse, the bttv module was loaded and unloaded by the application, like xawtv. Now with 8.1, the bttv module gets loaded whenever X starts, and stays loaded. I guess the newer version of X loads it automatically, even if I don't use an app that needs it.

Yes, this was how I first discovered the problem -- the sound to my TV card would activate upon boot, even if I had not run kwintv or xawtv yet. How can I prevent bttv from loading upon boot? And, even better, how I can force kwintv or xawtv to unload the module when I quit the program? Many thanks again to all for the comments and help. Charles __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

Charles Griffin wrote:

--- zentara wrote:

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Here is something else with bttv, back in my 7.3 version of suse, the bttv module was loaded and unloaded by the application, like xawtv. Now with 8.1, the bttv module gets loaded whenever X starts, and stays loaded. I guess the newer version of X loads it automatically, even if I don't use an app that needs it.

Yes, this was how I first discovered the problem -- the sound to my TV card would activate upon boot, even if I had not run kwintv or xawtv yet. How can I prevent bttv from loading upon boot? And, even better, how I can force kwintv or xawtv to unload the module when I quit the program?

What I do is just mute the line in from the tv card to the sound card. In /etc/init.d/boot.local # # Mute Line in # amixer sset Line,0 mute This works for me. Mark