On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 15:40 -0700, Steve Reilly wrote:

im not even sure if i can recommend 10.2 right now. i installed 10.2 alpha4 on a test box, and theyre doing some funky things with the menu system and such..... even thats broken at this point. i couldnt get it to work. tried updating, and the same problems exist..... brand new install, and dependency issues?, but, ill give them the benefit of the doubt........ it is not released yet.

Benefit of the doubt? Recommend it right now??? It is ALPHA! Alpha in computer science terms means "this is known not to work, don't install unless you are a tester or developer and are prepared for things to break and to give constructive feedback in the form of bug reports or patches" Complaining about the non-working status of an alpha release basically is the same as saying you don't know what it is

FWIW, I just completed a nearly trouble-free upgrade to 10.1 from 10.0 on a rather complicated multiprocessor system with scsi, sata, and usb devices. I used 5 CDs copied from an opensuse repository. Only difficulty was that somehow Yast didn't do a proper Suseconfig on the gtk2 (gtk+) rpms, so that pango failed. I went again to Yast, indicated the already installed gtk2's (no dependency problems), and hit "finish" so that a suseconfig was forced. Before upgrading I did, of course, copy the etc directory, then reinstalled it intact after upgrade. My /home and /usr/local reside on different partitions. Do check the media as Yast requests before updating. And do check the files which Yast chooses to replace before the upgrade. As far as performance and features go, I don't see that 10.1 gives much additional. However, I wanted to compile some progs which required the libs of 10.1 and it would have been more trouble to resolve all the dependencies for all the new libs. In sum, upgrade to 10.1 was much less hassle than had been upgrade from 9.1 to 10.0. jim bennett Mailing-List: contact suse-linux-e-help@suse.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: mailto:suse-linux-e-help@suse.com list-unsubscribe: mailto:suse-linux-e-unsubscribe-jbennett=syr.edu@suse.com list-post: mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com X-MIME-Notice: attachments may have been removed from this message X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e X-Message-Number-for-archive: 283139 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lAEJMwoeeYtm25FKZci9jAHX5CcLdos+IhhxQGm1PP3yAXEfQK71HFsrrDR8o8lITvCaBQDHbXGIm7EaS0liWaqY8x/pgXbwk+dyZFldkgp6P1pUk8AnAC+kUAFuYwVsJ2aHPLeTR70JQBanEpQWXelJEUOlr9P4niJAl4aQQJ8= ; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reilly Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1022027041-1158878405=:96169" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 tagged_above=-20.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS, HTML_10_20, HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Level: ** X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-UIDL: &[Y!!f#2"!oa#!!_!p!! --0-1022027041-1158878405=:96169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, dont upgrade to 10.1!!!........ i would only recommend it to someone who wants to check out xgl maybe, thats about it. i cant believe it was even released, the update structure is completely broken, what i consider one of the most important features in an operating system. im not even sure if i can recommend 10.2 right now. i installed 10.2 alpha4 on a test box, and theyre doing some funky things with the menu system and such..... even thats broken at this point. i couldnt get it to work. tried updating, and the same problems exist..... brand new install, and dependency issues?, but, ill give them the benefit of the doubt........ it is not released yet. STAY WITH 10.0!!!!!!!!! stephan beal wrote: On Thursday 21 September 2006 23:10, Arun Mallikarjunan wrote:

Hello All, I have been holding this off for a long time but really want to upgrade my office desktop to 10.1. I have dell dimension 9150 which is running perfectly on 10.0. Can I just upgrade, or is it better to start from scratch?

a) Doing a from-scratch install is always (well, 99.9% of the time) a better idea. Upgrading is inherently full of potholes and inherently problematic. b) Don't upgrade to 10.1. Wait for 10.2 (i wish i had). The upgrade tools in 10.1 are fundamentally broken and you will experience Much Grief with them. (Even if that Grief is only the pain you'll have to go through to replace the update/upgrade tools.) Granted, aside from the upgrade tools, 10.1 is a fine distro, but the broken upgrade tools are enough reason, IMO, to keep the fingers away from it.

I do understand that starting from scratch is what most of you will advice but I had to install drivers for my ethernet card, video-card etc, I thought an upgrade might let me skip those. Is this advisable?

No, it's not advisable. If you upgrade, those drivers and whatnot will likely also be replaced/upgraded, or even made inactive (e.g., by changes to the kernel). -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts Peace Steve Reilly --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-1022027041-1158878405=:96169--