Hi I have two hard drives, the better of which is the first (hda1). I dual boot w98 and SuSE 7.2. Because of the way that w98 insists on being on the first drive I have it installed as hda1 and SuSE on the rest of the first drive. At the moment I use the second (hdb) older slower drive as a spare mainly for backups and test installs. I want to put w98 on that drive and I understand that if I use grub rather than lilo I can then set grub to fool w98 into thinking that is on the first drive. Rather than going through another painful w98 install I'd like to just move the present w98 install to that drive. Is there a linux utility that I can use to do this ? That is create an image of the win98 install, move it to hdb1 and then set up grub to boot it so I can check that it works before I remove it from hda1 and reorganise that drive ? The w98 partition is about 4.0 gigs and the second drive is 6.4 gigs. Thanks for any pointers anyone can offer. Mike
michael norman wrote:
Hi
I have two hard drives, the better of which is the first (hda1). I dual boot w98 and SuSE 7.2. Because of the way that w98 insists on being on the first drive I have it installed as hda1 and SuSE on the rest of the first drive. At the moment I use the second (hdb) older slower drive as a spare mainly for backups and test installs. I want to put w98 on that drive and I understand that if I use grub rather than lilo I can then set grub to fool w98 into thinking that is on the first drive. Rather than going through another painful w98 install I'd like to just move the present w98 install to that drive. Is there a linux utility that I can use to do this ? That is create an image of the win98 install, move it to hdb1 and then set up grub to boot it so I can check that it works before I remove it from hda1 and reorganise that drive ?
The w98 partition is about 4.0 gigs and the second drive is 6.4 gigs.
Thanks for any pointers anyone can offer.
Mike
Not sure about moving it, maybe DD? By the way, I have windows on a second hard drive (and behind that more Linux) and boot easily with Lilo. Although I think Lilo needs to be on the MBR in this case. Matt
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
Hi
I have two hard drives, the better of which is the first (hda1). I dual boot w98 and SuSE 7.2. Because of the way that w98 insists on being on the first drive I have it installed as hda1 and SuSE on the rest of the first drive. At the moment I use the second (hdb) older slower drive as a spare mainly for backups and test installs. I want to put w98 on that drive and I understand that if I use grub rather than lilo I can then set grub to fool w98 into thinking that is on the first drive. Rather than going through another painful w98 install I'd like to just move the present w98 install to that drive. Is there a linux utility that I can use to do this ? That is create an image of the win98 install, move it to hdb1 and then set up grub to boot it so I can check that it works before I remove it from hda1 and reorganise that drive ?
The w98 partition is about 4.0 gigs and the second drive is 6.4 gigs.
Thanks for any pointers anyone can offer.
You should be able to just use the Windows startup disk to do this. Boot to the command line prompt and then do an: XCOPY C: ?: /h/o/t/s/e/r/v where ?: is the new disk mode letter. (I assume XCOPY will be available on the startup disk) Then do a: SYS ?: and you should be set to go. Linux dd would probably also work but I have done the above within the last month. I would verify first that it will truely run from a second drive... I have never heard that. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 08/31/01 13:40 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Keep America Beautiful.... emigrate."
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
You should be able to just use the Windows startup disk to do this. Boot to the command line prompt and then do an:
XCOPY C: ?: /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
where ?: is the new disk mode letter. (I assume XCOPY will be available on the startup disk)
XCOPY is not on the startup disk. It can be copied over from the \WINDOWS\COMMAND directory to the startup disk. There's something funky about using XCOPY that I can't remember what it is. I been using Drive Copy or Drive Image to move my Win98 partition around. Christopher Reimer
On 31 Aug 2001, at 10:46, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
\WINDOWS\COMMAND directory to the startup disk. There's something funky about using XCOPY that I can't remember what it is. I been using Drive
I beleive that XCOPY will not copy over hidden files correctly. At least it didn't with DOS6.2 Maybe win98 dos is new and improved and will support this ;) ~Dale ________________________________ Dale Schuster MIS Manager Lake Tahoe Horizon Casino Resort dschuster@horizoncasino.com
At 11:51 08/31/2001 -0700, Dale Schuster wrote:
On 31 Aug 2001, at 10:46, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
\WINDOWS\COMMAND directory to the startup disk. There's something funky about using XCOPY that I can't remember what it is. I been using Drive
I beleive that XCOPY will not copy over hidden files correctly. At least it didn't with DOS6.2 Maybe win98 dos is new and improved and will support this ;)
~Dale
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Dale Schuster MIS Manager Lake Tahoe Horizon Casino Resort dschuster@horizoncasino.com
xcopy will copy anything if you give it the right commands. Do xcopy /? and you will get all the information you need. However, no matter what you do with xcopy, windows may not boot. It is now on a drive it was not installed on, and it will be very confused. (Can you blame it?) Under these conditions, Linux wouldn't boot either. --doug
On Saturday 01 Sep 2001 2:30 am, Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 11:51 08/31/2001 -0700, Dale Schuster wrote:
On 31 Aug 2001, at 10:46, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
\WINDOWS\COMMAND directory to the startup disk. There's something funky about using XCOPY that I can't remember what it is. I been using Drive
I beleive that XCOPY will not copy over hidden files correctly. At least it didn't with DOS6.2 Maybe win98 dos is new and improved and will support this ;)
~Dale
________________________________
Dale Schuster MIS Manager Lake Tahoe Horizon Casino Resort dschuster@horizoncasino.com
xcopy will copy anything if you give it the right commands. Do xcopy /? and you will get all the information you need. However, no matter what you do with xcopy, windows may not boot. It is now on a drive it was not installed on, and it will be very confused. (Can you blame it?) Under these conditions, Linux wouldn't boot either.
--doug
If it is the case that if I move it as I was thinking of doing it won't boot then I'll back up what I need and reinstall it. Thanks for all the suggestions so far. Mike
michael norman wrote:
If it is the case that if I move it as I was thinking of doing it won't boot then I'll back up what I need and reinstall it. Thanks for all the suggestions so far.
Mike
If you already have the disk partitioned, made active (startable), and formatted, you can drag and drop the whole windows drive to this new partition in Windows Explorer, with the critical exception of win386.swp. Since this file is under the Windows directory, I usually select all but that directory, drag and drop it to the new drive, then create the Windows directory on the new drive, open the Windows directory on the old drive and select all EXCEPT win386.swp, and drag it to WIndows (or instead of drag and drop you can copy/paste). To be sure, run sys (drive letter, i.e. c:), and if the partition is startable, it will work. I have copied many Windows disks this way (repair of course). Drag and drop seems to bypass some of Windows error checking which allows it to work in spite of Micro$oft. HTH. I don't know if GRUB will fake out Windows that it is booting on C (IDE 0 /master), but hope so. :) BTW, you can also boot Windows on the D drive by changing the boot device in BIOS. -- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris "All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Friday 31 Aug 2001 5:46 pm, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
You should be able to just use the Windows startup disk to do this. Boot to the command line prompt and then do an:
XCOPY C: ?: /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
where ?: is the new disk mode letter. (I assume XCOPY will be available on the startup disk)
XCOPY is not on the startup disk. It can be copied over from the \WINDOWS\COMMAND directory to the startup disk. There's something funky about using XCOPY that I can't remember what it is. I been using Drive Copy or Drive Image to move my Win98 partition around.
Christopher Reimer
Christopher I take it that the utilities you mention are windows apps ? Any trial versions about that I can use ? Mike
On Friday 31 August 2001 05:19 pm, michael norman wrote:
On Friday 31 Aug 2001 5:46 pm, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Friday 31 August 2001 02:29 pm, michael norman wrote:
You should be able to just use the Windows startup disk to do this. Boot to the command line prompt and then do an:
XCOPY C: ?: /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
where ?: is the new disk mode letter. (I assume XCOPY will be available on the startup disk)
XCOPY is not on the startup disk. It can be copied over from the \WINDOWS\COMMAND directory to the startup disk. There's something funky about using XCOPY that I can't remember what it is. I been using Drive Copy or Drive Image to move my Win98 partition around.
Christopher Reimer
Christopher
I take it that the utilities you mention are windows apps ?
Any trial versions about that I can use ?
Mike
DriveCopy and DriveImage are from the same people that authored Partition Magic. www.powerquest.com You might look to see if they have a trial but you don't really need them. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 08/31/01 16:56 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Born free...Taxed to death."
You should be able to just use the Windows startup disk to do this. Boot to the command line prompt and then do an:
XCOPY C: ?: /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
where ?: is the new disk mode letter. (I assume XCOPY will be available on the startup disk)
Then do a: SYS ?:
and you should be set to go. Linux dd would probably also work but I have done the above within the last month.
I would verify first that it will truely run from a second drive... I have never heard that.
Bruce My problem is that I don't have a working floppy drive. Articles about grub in Linux Journal and Linux Format (sorry don't have urls to hand) and grub docs assure me I can use grub to do what I need. Mike
boot into linux then as root do dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 this will do a bit by bit copy of your windows partition to a partition on the second drive (even the swap file). then you should be able to configure grub to recognize that win98 is on /dev/hdb1. On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, michael norman wrote:
Hi
I have two hard drives, the better of which is the first (hda1). I dual boot w98 and SuSE 7.2. Because of the way that w98 insists on being on the first drive I have it installed as hda1 and SuSE on the rest of the first drive. At the moment I use the second (hdb) older slower drive as a spare mainly for backups and test installs. I want to put w98 on that drive and I understand that if I use grub rather than lilo I can then set grub to fool w98 into thinking that is on the first drive. Rather than going through another painful w98 install I'd like to just move the present w98 install to that drive. Is there a linux utility that I can use to do this ? That is create an image of the win98 install, move it to hdb1 and then set up grub to boot it so I can check that it works before I remove it from hda1 and reorganise that drive ?
The w98 partition is about 4.0 gigs and the second drive is 6.4 gigs.
Thanks for any pointers anyone can offer.
Mike
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, michael norman wrote:
I have two hard drives
Hi Michael ~ using Linux, you could, say, mount the Source winders partition, on /mnt and, then, mount the Target winders partition on, say, /mnt2 cd to / of /mnt tar clf - . | ( umask 0; cd /mnt2; tar xvf - ) ~ I believe, that should fix it best wishes Richard ____________ sent on Linux ____________
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