I have some questions about Suse 8.1 performance. I'm evaluating Suse for use in our company, I'm using Suse on two systems, one at home and one at the office, I'm use KDE on both. The office system is a Pentium II 350 mhz with 128 mb memory, and performance is ok. The home system is a AMD K6 233 mhz with 64 mb memory, and it's performance can be very sluggish at times. My questions are... 1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse? 2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system? 3) Is KDE resource demanding? If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help? We have a number of older PC's in the same performance class as the AMD 233 / 64mb and I'm hoping to utilize these as linux systems. Windows 98 runs acceptably on these systems. It seems like the default Suse 8.1 install configuration is not a good match for older PC's. I had always heard that some companies are using Linux to extend the useful life of their older PC's. How are they doing it?? Any suggestions?? Matt
On Friday 07 March 2003 19:50, Matt Stamm wrote:
I have some questions about Suse 8.1 performance. I'm evaluating Suse for use in our company, I'm using Suse on two systems, one at home and one at the office, I'm use KDE on both. The office system is a Pentium II 350 mhz with 128 mb memory, and performance is ok. The home system is a AMD K6 233 mhz with 64 mb memory, and it's performance can be very sluggish at times. My questions are...
1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse?
Maybe, my k6 233 runs fine with 128mb tho.
2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system?
Add memory
3) Is KDE resource demanding?
Yes, very.
If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help?
Gnome is probably just as bad, but there are loads of 'lightweight' window managers out there, try some of the others from the SuSE install discs.
We have a number of older PC's in the same performance class as the AMD 233 / 64mb and I'm hoping to utilize these as linux systems. Windows 98 runs acceptably on these systems. It seems like the default Suse 8.1 install configuration is not a good match for older PC's.
I had always heard that some companies are using Linux to extend the useful life of their older PC's. How are they doing it??
Any suggestions??
Matt
-- "Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars" Billy Bragg
the old AMD K6 processors are trash for desktop use. they really are just dog slow. that being said, there are some things that can be done to upgrade the performance 1. increase the memory to at least 128 meg. 2. get a newer/faster hard drive. 3. Switch to a less demanding window manager - icewm is a good one. you can still run kde and gnome apps if you need to. 4. recompile the kernel and maybe rebuild some packages like X, icewm, kde - for your architechure. 5. make sure there are no services running sucking up processor/memory resources. You mentioned that alot of companies are extending the life of older hardware by running linux - i would bet that most are doing what i do - run them as servers - dns, dhcp, ldap, samba, etc - rather than buying big honking new servers to run win2k. On Friday 07 March 2003 13:50, Matt Stamm wrote:
I have some questions about Suse 8.1 performance. I'm evaluating Suse for use in our company, I'm using Suse on two systems, one at home and one at the office, I'm use KDE on both. The office system is a Pentium II 350 mhz with 128 mb memory, and performance is ok. The home system is a AMD K6 233 mhz with 64 mb memory, and it's performance can be very sluggish at times. My questions are...
1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse? 2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system? 3) Is KDE resource demanding? If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help?
We have a number of older PC's in the same performance class as the AMD 233 / 64mb and I'm hoping to utilize these as linux systems. Windows 98 runs acceptably on these systems. It seems like the default Suse 8.1 install configuration is not a good match for older PC's.
I had always heard that some companies are using Linux to extend the useful life of their older PC's. How are they doing it??
Any suggestions??
Matt
-- Chad Whitten Network/Systems Administrator neXband Communications cwhitten@nexband.com
On Friday 07 March 2003 15:04, Chad Whitten wrote:
the old AMD K6 processors are trash for desktop use.
I run Mandrake 8.1 on a K6-2 500 MHz with 256 MB RAM. It is lively as can be. *************************************************** Powered by SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional KDE 3.0.0 KMail 1.4 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ***************************************************
Matt Stamm wrote:
1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse? 2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system? 3) Is KDE resource demanding? If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help?
Use icewm, windowmaker or twm instead of KDE. Memory will also help, though memory for older PCs is more expensive and harder to find.
I had always heard that some companies are using Linux to extend the useful life of their older PC's. How are they doing it??
One trick I'm using is to run SuSE at work on a PII 400 64Mb and Win2k on a PIII 667, 128Mb. That's barely enough for Win2k but I use the SuSE box as a dedicated samba server for the Win2k box, which substantially boosts performance. I've also set up eXceed with XDMCP so that I can run SuSE apps directly on my desktop. And since the two boxen share a filesytem, I can use apps like XEmacs or Mozilla on SuSE and Office 2K on Win2k simultaneously. At home, of course, I use exclusively SuSE/KDE 3.1 on a P4 2.4GHz 512Mb box. -- JDL
Alle 20:50, venerdì 7 marzo 2003, Matt Stamm ha scritto:
I have some questions about Suse 8.1 performance. I'm evaluating Suse for use in our company, I'm using Suse on two systems, one at home and one at the office, I'm use KDE on both. The office system is a Pentium II 350 mhz with 128 mb memory, and performance is ok. The home system is a AMD K6 233 mhz with 64 mb memory, and it's performance can be very sluggish at times. My questions are...
1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse?
Mayve not for suse, but they are for Kde 3.
2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system? Get some RAM
3) Is KDE resource demanding? If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help? Gnome wants less memory than Kde.
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1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse? Mayve not for suse, but they are for Kde 3.
2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system? Get some RAM
3) Is KDE resource demanding? If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help? Gnome wants less memory than Kde.
With 64 M of ram, go for a simple windowmanager, not a fullblown windowing environm,ent like KDE or Gnome. I suggest windowmaker or fvwm. I've been running windowmaker on a 233/64 laptop (with konqueror as browser) and it worked just fine for me . I've got a P166/32 next to my desk which runs windowmaker just fine (and mozilla as browser) ... It all depends what you want to do with the box. Currently listening to: 11-Black Balloon Gerhard, [faliquid@xs4all.nl] == The Acoustic Motorbiker == -- __O `tWas bradig en de sijple torfs, =`\<, driltolden op de wijde weep, (=)/(=) misbrozig stonden borrogorfs, `t Verdwoolde grasvark schreep.
too Alle 20:50, venerdì 7 marzo 2003, Matt Stamm ha scritto:
I have some questions about Suse 8.1 performance. I'm evaluating Suse for use in our company, I'm using Suse on two systems, one at home and one at the office, I'm use KDE on both. The office system is a Pentium II 350 mhz with 128 mb memory, and performance is ok. The home system is a AMD K6 233 mhz with 64 mb memory, and it's performance can be very sluggish at times. My questions are...
1) Is the AMD K6 233 mhz with 64mb memory too week for Suse?
Not for Suse nor for kde.
2) What could I do to improve performance on the AMD system?
More memory
3) Is KDE resource demanding? If I changed UI's (GNOME??) would that help?
see above. My suggestion for you is to use the systems as X terminals for a SuSE server (a dual pentium III with 512 MB / 1gb could serve easily 32 workstations...)
We have a number of older PC's in the same performance class as the AMD 233 / 64mb and I'm hoping to utilize these as linux systems. Windows 98 runs acceptably on these systems. It seems like the default Suse 8.1 install configuration is not a good match for older PC's.
I had always heard that some companies are using Linux to extend the useful life of their older PC's. How are they doing it??
Any suggestions??
Matt
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