Modem - PCI/USB - Discussion -- Time is running out.
Hi all, Since last year, motherboard shiped with ISA slot is getting rare. I believe no motherboard shiped with ISA today. Serial connection is on the to-do list to be banished to the dodo land too. So, if this two gone, how can linux user can use dial-up to internet. Is this mean Linux growth will be ceased? Is there any PCI / AMR / CNR / USB modem that 100% compatible with Linux and not tied to specicific kernel (i.e. 2.4.1 or 2.2.16).
I doubt that RS323C serial ports will be forever banished because they are too ubiquitous. The built-in RS232C serial ports on PC hardware may go as may go built-in parallel ports. However, that does not mean one may not be able to get PCI boards to provide the same capability or possibly USB devices. Many printers already support USB. Most PCs today come with built- in modems and some with built-in network ports. I suspect that while the port characteristics may change, there will be support for those devices for years to come, as well as dialup capabilities via USB. On 5 Jun 2002 at 0:39, Mojojojo wrote:
Since last year, motherboard shiped with ISA slot is getting rare. I believe no motherboard shiped with ISA today.
Serial connection is on the to-do list to be banished to the dodo land too.
So, if this two gone, how can linux user can use dial-up to internet. Is this mean Linux growth will be ceased?
-- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 00:51, Jerry Feldman wrote:
I doubt that RS323C serial ports will be forever banished because they are too ubiquitous. The built-in RS232C serial ports on PC hardware may go as may go built-in parallel ports. However, that does not mean one may not be able to get PCI boards to provide the same capability or possibly USB devices. Many printers already support USB. Most PCs today come with built- in modems and some with built-in network ports. I suspect that while the port characteristics may change, there will be support for those devices for years to come, as well as dialup capabilities via USB.
There were a PC called legacy free that doesn't have serial/pararel & ISA slot at all. But they have PCI winmodem. and I bought a notebook that doesn't have 'legacy' serial & doesn't have 'legacy' PCMCIA. (http://www.ecs.com.tw). It has a built in winmodem, but I intend to use this notebook with SuSE Linux. This notebook is sold without operating system.
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:39:52AM +0700, Mojojojo wrote:
Hi all,
Since last year, motherboard shiped with ISA slot is getting rare. I believe no motherboard shiped with ISA today.
I was under the same impression when I was looking for an upgrade to my FIC PA2013 motherboard (it's using AMD-K6/2-500 CPU). I was surprised to learn how many current EPOX motherboards do have ISA slot : (http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/Default.htm) So it does not look dead as of today. Sorry for OT message. -Kastus
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:33, Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka wrote:
Since last year, motherboard shiped with ISA slot is getting rare. I believe no motherboard shiped with ISA today.
I was under the same impression when I was looking for an upgrade to my FIC PA2013 motherboard (it's using AMD-K6/2-500 CPU).
I was surprised to learn how many current EPOX motherboards do have ISA slot : (http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/Default.htm)
I already see the list, and here is my comment. * For those of you want Pentium 4 or Celeron w/ p4 core, then there is no ISA. (no Linux??) * Socket370 is DEAD, and will be gone in less than half year, so it doesn't matter if it has ISA or not. Furtheremore, loking a brand new mobo with ISA on the list, (most of the time) you will get answer "that mobo already discontinued" * For Socket A, the one that has ISA slot is old chipset.
So it does not look dead as of today.
So, it's not dead as of today, but like I said... Time is running out. Is there any USB or PCI modem that can be run in Linux (without hasle)???
Sorry for OT message.
I don't think this is OT. This is about SuSE survival too. If current/future computer can't use Linux for dial-up, then Linux will be very disadvantage by this situation.
Having been enlightened thusly, On Tuesday June 04, 2002 10:39 am, Mojojojo wrote:
Hi all,
Since last year, motherboard shiped with ISA slot is getting rare. I believe no motherboard shiped with ISA today.
Serial connection is on the to-do list to be banished to the dodo land too.
So, if this two gone, how can linux user can use dial-up to internet. Is this mean Linux growth will be ceased?
Is there any PCI / AMR / CNR / USB modem that 100% compatible with Linux and not tied to specicific kernel (i.e. 2.4.1 or 2.2.16).
I can only respond: Not in the same realm, I know, but FWIW: visit to not-so-local Frye's last night found only one MB available for SDRAM, all others req'd only DDR, except for one that had both slots. Potentially having to replace both MB and memory, when only the MB died was a little distressing. Richard
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