It looks as though the problem with X spontaneously terminating has come back with my current setup. It's not nearly as bad as it was a few weeks ago, but it is still an unwelcome visitor. What seems to trigger it now is clicking the "desktop" icon. One of the things I did in the past to try an get more reliable X behavior is to deselect the windows behavior options "Display content in moving windows" and "Display content in resizing windows." I'm hoping that will prevent this in the future, but it is very difficult to isolate a problem when it does not occur consistently, and there is no good error report. What happens is I simply click the desktop icon in the kicker and the whole screen goes blank, as if I had hit CTL + ALT + BKSP to restart X. The next thing displayed is the KDM login prompt. I really hate this because I loose any work I don't have saved. When writing code, this can be very upsetting. Steve
My observations about X crashes is that they are usually caused by faulty X server setups. JLK On Sunday 11 March 2001 17:45, you wrote:
It looks as though the problem with X spontaneously terminating has come back with my current setup. It's not nearly as bad as it was a few weeks ago, but it is still an unwelcome visitor. What seems to trigger it now is clicking the "desktop" icon. One of the things I did in the past to try an get more reliable X behavior is to deselect the windows behavior options "Display content in moving windows" and "Display content in resizing windows." I'm hoping that will prevent this in the future, but it is very difficult to isolate a problem when it does not occur consistently, and there is no good error report.
What happens is I simply click the desktop icon in the kicker and the whole screen goes blank, as if I had hit CTL + ALT + BKSP to restart X. The next thing displayed is the KDM login prompt. I really hate this because I loose any work I don't have saved. When writing code, this can be very upsetting.
Steve
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It looks as though the problem with X spontaneously terminating has come back with my current setup. It's not nearly as bad as it was a few weeks ago, but it is still an unwelcome visitor. What seems to trigger it now is clicking the "desktop" icon. One of the things I did in the past to try an get more reliable X behavior is to deselect the windows behavior options "Display content in moving windows" and "Display content in resizing windows." I'm hoping that will prevent this in the future, but it is very difficult to isolate a problem when it does not occur consistently, and there is no good error report.
What happens is I simply click the desktop icon in the kicker and the whole screen goes blank, as if I had hit CTL + ALT + BKSP to restart X. The next thing displayed is the KDM login prompt. I really hate this because I loose any work I don't have saved. When writing code, this can be very upsetting.
I am experiencing the same symptoms. What graphics controller do you have, and what X server are you using ? I am using XFree86 4.0.2 on a Diamond Viper 770 ( TNT2 ), nv driver with no 3d With the nvidia and 3d enabled, it's much worse, but then I only start it in that mode for a game of Quake...
Steve
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On Sunday 11 March 2001 19:10, you wrote:
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Hi Steve,
It looks as though the problem with X spontaneously terminating has come [snip]
I am experiencing the same symptoms. What graphics controller do you have, and what X server are you using ?
I am using XFree86 4.0.2 on a Diamond Viper 770 ( TNT2 ), nv driver with no 3d
With the nvidia and 3d enabled, it's much worse, but then I only start it in that mode for a game of Quake...
- -tosi Tor, I'm using an ATI RF 128 wtih XFree 4.0.2, and 2.4.2-4GB. I thought I had glx enabled, but I don't see the module loaded in the XF86Config. I'm also using the latest KDE and QT from the SuSE FTP site, although I noticed the problem before I applied the latest RPMs. I have only seen the problem recently in the KDE2.x. Such things used to happen a few years ago, but I've been lucky since then, till recently.
One thing I noticed in 7.0 which seems related is that dragging the window of a remote client app would sometimes result in momentary freezes. In these cases the mouse cursor would track the mouse but the window would get left behind, then the whole screen would freeze for a moment and then everything would catch up. What had been happening was that the same events would take place, but rather than catching up, X would restart. I found I was more or less able to reproduce the problem by opening a few windows and playing with them by dragging them around, re-layering them, and then clicking the desktop icon. This is extremely hard to isolate, and it's something that I would rather not spend time working on. If someone could come up with some deterministic test, I'd be happy to try them to see if I could reproduce the problem. Steve
That's it. I cant stand it any more. After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver. There I just hope you guys feel better now :) Glenn
At 01:00 PM 3/12/2001 +1000, Glenn wrote:
That's it. I cant stand it any more.
After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver.
There I just hope you guys feel better now :)
the best buy here finally got some in on friday 4 boxes of professional one. I hope they still there tomorrow when my super visor gets back to work . he has the rain check for the $49 price with him jack Jack Malone jack@malone.tyler.com http://www.ballistic.com/~jemalone Luke 4:18-19 "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." (NIV)
On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote:
That's it. I cant stand it any more.
After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver.
There I just hope you guys feel better now :)
Glenn
Ahhhhhhh....... much better now! :)
OK! That does it! I want 7.1 too... Does anyone know if it's available in any shops in Denmark? /Jon On Monday 12 March 2001 05:05, you wrote: ¤ On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote: ¤ > That's it. I cant stand it any more. ¤ > ¤ > After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ¤ > ordered the prof ver. ¤ > ¤ > There I just hope you guys feel better now :) ¤ > ¤ > ¤ > Glenn ¤ ¤ ¤ Ahhhhhhh....... much better now! ¤ :) ¤
Should be. But you never know - it "only" took three weeks for it to cross the Baltic to reach Sweden. måndagen den 12 mars 2001 13:14 skrev Jon Clausen:
OK! That does it! I want 7.1 too...
Does anyone know if it's available in any shops in Denmark?
/Jon
On Monday 12 March 2001 05:05, you wrote: ¤ On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote: ¤ > That's it. I cant stand it any more. ¤ > ¤ > After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ¤ > ordered the prof ver. ¤ > ¤ > There I just hope you guys feel better now :) ¤ > ¤ > ¤ > Glenn ¤ ¤ ¤ Ahhhhhhh....... much better now! ¤ :) ¤
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On 3/12/01, 12:14:49 PM, Jon Clausen
OK! That does it! I want 7.1 too...
Does anyone know if it's available in any shops in Denmark?
...
www.suse.dk, but only the Professional Edition. You may try www.sslug.dk, (the worlds biggest LUG), follow the link: "Kommercielt", and somewhere down that page you'll find af list of Linux resellers. -- Regards Vagn Bjørno Jensen
¤ ¤ > OK! That does it! I want 7.1 too... ¤ ¤ > Does anyone know if it's available in any shops in Denmark? ¤ ¤ > ... ¤ ¤ www.suse.dk, but only the Professional Edition. You may try www.sslug.dk, ¤ (the worlds biggest LUG), follow the link: "Kommercielt", and somewhere ¤ down that page you'll find af list of Linux resellers. ¤ Sweet! That's a two-in-one: I had no idea that SuSE had a danish site :-) -and, looking through it, I found a place to go get 7.1 :-))) Thanksalot!! /jon
Jerry Kreps wrote:
On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote:
That's it. I cant stand it any more.
After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver.
There I just hope you guys feel better now :)
Glenn
Ahhhhhhh....... much better now! :)
No no. Despite all this positive talk, I still hold out with 7.0. Please keep these positive mails low. More problems please, this is a technical discussion list! Don't get me into temptation. ;-) Juergen -- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
mmmmmm... gooood! Mmmm, the SuSE 7.1 sure is good! :-) jlk On Monday 12 March 2001 10:26, you wrote:
Jerry Kreps wrote:
On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote:
That's it. I cant stand it any more.
After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver.
There I just hope you guys feel better now :)
Glenn
Ahhhhhhh....... much better now!
:)
No no. Despite all this positive talk, I still hold out with 7.0. Please keep these positive mails low.
More problems please, this is a technical discussion list!
Don't get me into temptation. ;-)
Juergen
How do I set a partition to be 'inactive' (bootable)? Thanks,
Stathy Touloumis wrote:
How do I set a partition to be 'inactive' (bootable)?
Run fdisk on the disk that the partition is on (e.g. 'fdisk /dev/hda') and use the 'a' fdisk command. Be careful, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
Cut it out folks please, i've just found out I have to wait TWO MORE WEEKS
before they arrive here in Melbourne Australia.
Maybe i'll just go out and hang myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scsijon
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From: "Jerry Kreps"
mmmmmm... gooood! Mmmm, the SuSE 7.1 sure is good! :-) jlk
On Monday 12 March 2001 10:26, you wrote:
Jerry Kreps wrote:
On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote:
That's it. I cant stand it any more.
After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver.
There I just hope you guys feel better now :)
Glenn
Ahhhhhhh....... much better now!
:)
No no. Despite all this positive talk, I still hold out with 7.0. Please keep these positive mails low.
More problems please, this is a technical discussion list!
Don't get me into temptation. ;-)
Juergen
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At least you are going to get it...I can't get any retail store here in Saskatoon to bring it in. They all say that "the Canadian distributors don't carry it". :-( GRRrrrrrrrrrrrr................ Doug Roberts dgr@sk.sympatico.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- All right, who's been cooking hot dogs in the Warp Drive?
Cut it out folks please, i've just found out I have to wait TWO MORE WEEKS before they arrive here in Melbourne Australia.
Maybe i'll just go out and hang myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scsijon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kreps"
To: "SuSE Linux English" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] Aaargh I cant stand it! mmmmmm... gooood! Mmmm, the SuSE 7.1 sure is good! :-) jlk
On Monday 12 March 2001 10:26, you wrote:
Jerry Kreps wrote:
On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:00, you wrote:
That's it. I cant stand it any more.
After reading about everyone getting 7.1 I have broken down and ordered the prof ver.
There I just hope you guys feel better now :)
Glenn
Ahhhhhhh....... much better now!
:)
No no. Despite all this positive talk, I still hold out with 7.0. Please keep these positive mails low.
More problems please, this is a technical discussion list!
Don't get me into temptation. ;-)
Juergen
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:39:48 -0600, Doug Roberts wrote:
At least you are going to get it...I can't get any retail store here in Saskatoon to bring it in. They all say that "the Canadian distributors don't carry it". :-(
GRRrrrrrrrrrrrr................
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You can try http://www.softonline.com/home.htm They are a Canadian located operation that quotes in Cdn$ and usually gives good service. Of course, right now they are out of stock of Suse 7.1. Their quoted price for Suse 7.1 professional is Cdn$106 plus shipping which is the same as www.suse.com listed price of US$69.95 plus shipping. I ordered from Suse (digital river) on Friday Mar 9 and received it today, Mar 13, not too bad considering that there was a weekend in there plus Canada Kustoms had their peek as well. I have been told that there is a company in Quebec called "Camelot" that also does mail order of Suse; plus LinuxCentral in the US will ship to Canada. Local retail store to stock Suse?? I do not know about Saskatoon, but certainly not here in Calgary! Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ For my public PGP key send email with subject: "Send_PGP_Key" +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:34, scsijon wrote:
Cut it out folks please, i've just found out I have to wait TWO MORE WEEKS before they arrive here in Melbourne Australia.
Maybe i'll just go out and hang myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scsijon
Well I ordered mine on monday at midday and received it the next day at 8 am. That was from www.everthinglinux.com.au So its definetely here in Oz. Glenn
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:34, scsijon wrote:
Cut it out folks please, i've just found out I have to wait TWO MORE WEEKS before they arrive here in Melbourne Australia.
Maybe i'll just go out and hang myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scsijon
Ooops sorry the url is www.everythinglinux.com.au Glenn
On Sunday 11 March 2001 21:24, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Sunday 11 March 2001 19:10, you wrote:
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Hi Steve,
It looks as though the problem with X spontaneously terminating has come
[snip]
I am experiencing the same symptoms. What graphics controller do you have, and what X server are you using ?
I am using XFree86 4.0.2 on a Diamond Viper 770 ( TNT2 ), nv driver with no 3d
With the nvidia and 3d enabled, it's much worse, but then I only start it in that mode for a game of Quake...
- -tosi
Tor, I'm using an ATI RF 128 wtih XFree 4.0.2, and 2.4.2-4GB. I thought I had glx enabled, but I don't see the module loaded in the XF86Config. I'm also using the latest KDE and QT from the SuSE FTP site, although I noticed the problem before I applied the latest RPMs. I have only seen the problem recently in the KDE2.x. Such things used to happen a few years ago, but I've been lucky since then, till recently.
One thing I noticed in 7.0 which seems related is that dragging the window of a remote client app would sometimes result in momentary freezes. In these cases the mouse cursor would track the mouse but the window would get left behind, then the whole screen would freeze for a moment and then everything would catch up. What had been happening was that the same events would take place, but rather than catching up, X would restart.
I found I was more or less able to reproduce the problem by opening a few windows and playing with them by dragging them around, re-layering them, and then clicking the desktop icon. This is extremely hard to isolate, and it's something that I would rather not spend time working on. If someone could come up with some deterministic test, I'd be happy to try them to see if I could reproduce the problem.
Steve
To add to the saga, I had added (dragged and dropped) the 'file manager (super user mode)' icon into the kicker. It sat there nicely functioning as expected until I tried to move it to the left in the kicker. I dragged it over to sit with my other icons. When I let it go, my X restarted. When I came back into X, I had two icons, one where I had dropped it, and one in the original location in the kicker. I would assume the attempt to remove the original icon was the call that caused X to restart. I suspect QT. Just a hunch. Steve
I am experiencing the same symptoms. What graphics controller do you have, and what X server are you using ?
I am using XFree86 4.0.2 on a Diamond Viper 770 ( TNT2 ), nv driver with no 3d
With the nvidia and 3d enabled, it's much worse, but then I only start it in that mode for a game of Quake...
Þór, Are you, perchance using the 'tiny' setting for kicker? I am, I thought it was really cool when I found it, but now it seems I can rapidly click on the desktop icon and deterministically cause X to restart. How's that look at your end? Steve
participants (15)
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Anders Dahlqvist
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Chris Reeves
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Doug Roberts
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Glenn
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Jack Malone
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Jerry Kreps
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Jon Clausen
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juergen.braukmann@ruhr-west.de
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Kaare Rasmussen
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Ralph Sanford
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scsijon
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Stathy Touloumis
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Steven T. Hatton
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Tor Sigurdsson
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Vagn Bjørno Jensen