On 11/9/06, John Andersen wrote:

Fish is just an ssh shell. Why not just ssh into the machine and launch any tool you want on the file?

well John I asked for the ability to use a graphical text editor, so that I can see the xml document with all it's formatting (indents ... so the sectioning is clear) Do you know of a text editor that I could run from a server that has no gui installed, that will do this? That would be great ... I just looked at the log again with vi -- and it is better than I remembered. I could have sworn last time I did that, everything was just scrunched up, with no preserved indenting. Hmm ... Well ... I guess all my time searching for gnome equiv to fish, is for naughT (I'd still like to know, though ... I have a couple gnome machines that sometimes I need to use ....) Peter

Hi, You can run fish from within Konqueror - you may need to install some KDE libs to enable it to run, but it can be done. Cheers, Jon Per Jessen wrote:

Peter Van Lone wrote:

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On 11/9/06, John Andersen wrote:

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Fish is just an ssh shell. Why not just ssh into the machine and launch any tool you want on the file? well John I asked for the ability to use a graphical text editor, so that I can see the xml document with all it's formatting (indents ... so the sectioning is clear)

Do you know of a text editor that I could run from a server that has no gui installed, that will do this? That would be great ...

vi ? I have never had a problem editing/viewing XML with vi.

Per Jessen, Zurich

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On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:39, Peter Van Lone wrote:

On 11/9/06, John Andersen wrote:

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Fish is just an ssh shell. Why not just ssh into the machine and launch any tool you want on the file?

well John I asked for the ability to use a graphical text editor, so that I can see the xml document with all it's formatting (indents ... so the sectioning is clear)

Do you know of a text editor that I could run from a server that has no gui installed, that will do this? That would be great ...

No gui installed on the server does not matter because you have a gui installed on your workstation. There is a terminology gotcha with regard to X servers. An X server runs on the local machine - it provides an X session to the remote machine which doesn't even need xorg or X11 installed. So any text editor that might exist on said remote machine (and which is graphical in nature) can display on your machine thru the ssh tunnel. The editing is done on the remote machine, with screen/mouse/and keyboard work done on your machine. Fish on the other hand is a file transfer mechanism and it brings a copy of the remote file local and allows you to edit it locally. If you save it, it transfers your copy back. It will usually be faster to transfer it with fish, and edit locally because X sessions over slow links are a nightmare, but you could just as well transfer it with scp or sftp, edit it and then put it back. Fish simply hides the sftp command line from your view. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen