Re: [opensuse] KDE3 on 11.3 ??
Am Freitag, 30. Juli 2010, 17:33:20 schrieb Obamaramalamadingdong:
Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2010, 00:40:48 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
Let me quote what I think would be an intelligent response to my post: Your first post was "Just to fan the flame...
I like this one:
"Starting with KDE version 4.3.1 shipped with openSUSE 11.2 it is considered that KDE4 is at least an adequate replacement for KDE3 and for resource reasons KDE3 is not supported."
So according to openSUSE a beta or less than beta quality product (that time) is at least an adequate replacement for a stable very usable product. Nice."
That's the "intelligence" I answered to. Because that's your attitude that shows up in every comment regarding KDE4.
Can't face up to the truth, can you.
KDE 4 is a giant brain fart for 4 years and counting.
The project is lead by a pathological liar, Aaron Segio.
He claims that various things "aren't implemented because it's all new code is being written from scratch" and yet on his own blog he proudly announces, "finally, I RIPPED DESKTOP ICONS OUT OF THE CODE."
Doesn't sound like starting from new code at all.
In fact, it definitely states quite the opposite -- the Segio committed a demonstrable act of vandalism to the code base.
Give it up. KDE 4 is a fucking mess because the people implementing it have no fucking respect for anybody, or anything, as long as they can jack off to their pointless, CPU-hogging, work-impeding animations.
Bob S is right. You're nothing but a fanboy.
Thanks for your email, sending private emails is against the mailinglist netiquette, so I thought I would share my reply. Please only send emails to the list. Thanks for sharing your attitude it saves a lot of typing if people like you make it that easy to understand their intention behind their "valueable" critique. Sven
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That was NOT my point. When I discovered that KDE 4 was not working
the way I like, I thought I come here and say it, and maybe someone listens and implements what I would like. Of course I was ready to read >that "we are sorry, but for this or that reason we can't / don't want >to implement this".
Sounds reasonable.
But what I got for an answer (and I see others continue to get the
same, although I don't know if this answer come from developers or from people speaking "for them", officially or not) is: it is so, change your way of using your computer or go look some other place,
you did not pay for your software so how dare you come and criticise?
There is a slight difference between criticising and accusing KDE4 devs of breaking features on purpose, wasting their time on KDE4, setting their prioritioes wrong, i.e. mostly bling, releasing beta (or less) software as 4.3.1, demanding that the features you miss are the ones crucial for KDE4's quality and other things just meant to "Just to fan the flame..."
I guess you remember the last bit. That's what makes the difference, you do not criticise but flame and always add little allegations that hint to the minor quality of KDE4 vs KDE3 which is just plain wrong and disrespecting KDE devs.
That's why I asked you for self-reflection. Did you ever notice anyone telling you to not use KDE3? So why not keep using it instead of telling everybody how bad the software they use is compared to what you use? That's just lame.
I am not sure if this "you didn't not pay for it" ever comes from a contributor even less a developer. It would basically undermine the possibility of actually being contracted to work on KDE, which is probably a dream most FOSS contributors would like to live.
That's his opinion, yet I do not see why one cannot work for FOSS and still tell people to stop their whining about things they get for free and are not willing to contribute to.
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source: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=126028573030192&w=2
It seems the poster of the quoted message does not know you.
What difference does that make? He did not know either that you like to "fan the flame". I bet he likes you because of that and agrees with that sort of attitude.
Sven
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Am Freitag, 30. Juli 2010, 21:08:08 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Can't face up to the truth, can you.
KDE 4 is a giant brain fart for 4 years and counting.
The project is lead by a pathological liar, Aaron Segio.
He claims that various things "aren't implemented because it's all new code is being written from scratch" and yet on his own blog he proudly announces, "finally, I RIPPED DESKTOP ICONS OUT OF THE CODE."
Doesn't sound like starting from new code at all.
In fact, it definitely states quite the opposite -- the Segio committed a demonstrable act of vandalism to the code base.
Give it up. KDE 4 is a fucking mess because the people implementing it have no fucking respect for anybody, or anything, as long as they can jack off to their pointless, CPU-hogging, work-impeding animations.
Bob S is right. You're nothing but a fanboy.
Thanks for your email, sending private emails is against the mailinglist netiquette, so I thought I would share my reply.
Please only send emails to the list. Thanks for sharing your attitude it saves a lot of typing if people like you make it that easy to understand their intention behind their "valueable" critique.
Sorry, forgot his email address in case somebody wants to agree with or answer him. <akulkis@gmail.com> is where the email came from. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010-07-30 21:08, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Freitag, 30. Juli 2010, 17:33:20 schrieb Obamaramalamadingdong:
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Thanks for your email, sending private emails is against the mailinglist netiquette, so I thought I would share my reply.
Please only send emails to the list. Thanks for sharing your attitude it saves a lot of typing if people like you make it that easy to understand their intention behind their "valueable" critique.
He can't. He was banned, remember? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))
Am Dienstag, 3. August 2010, 12:04:56 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2010-07-30 21:08, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Freitag, 30. Juli 2010, 17:33:20 schrieb Obamaramalamadingdong: ...
Thanks for your email, sending private emails is against the mailinglist netiquette, so I thought I would share my reply.
Please only send emails to the list. Thanks for sharing your attitude it saves a lot of typing if people like you make it that easy to understand their intention behind their "valueable" critique.
He can't. He was banned, remember?
How would I know? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Am Dienstag, 3. August 2010, 12:04:56 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
He can't. He was banned, remember?
How would I know?
Because he is famous here. >:-) You must be new in this town :-p Don't worry, now he will tell you at large, I guess. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxYC78ACgkQU92UU+smfQW4vgCeLPgJFaliiAwuWp8k81hmriD7 W+4AniByUvNi858KjUuAv5kGttlb+QM7 =IE94 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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