RE: [opensuse] admin??
Guys For any linux distro to be successfull what we need to come up with is a combination of releases based on the following. 1 desktop [ lightweight kde] with yast set up with the 4 or 5 repositories 2 server distro with webmin and easy integration into a active directory network 3 multimedia distro that OEM builders could use on new home media centers, people have to have 1 company that will build on this, there is no other way to make linux into a household item. -----Original Message----- From: Marcus Cooper [mailto:fmwt.marcus@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 8/10/2005 1:44 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Cc: Subject: Re: [opensuse] admin?? urm I think it means administrator your own account. On 10/08/05, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
loging out of opensuse, I fall in a page with left column for account admin
http://www.opensuse.org/ICHAINLogout/?%22http://www.opensuse.org/cmd/ICSLogo...
is that normal? i'm not an admin :-)
(I know, it needs a pass to make things, but it's gives bad ideas :-)
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I think there should definitely be desktop and server versions. I am not quite sold on the multimedia. I dont think having a MM release will aid in bringing linux into the forefront. I think a pollished interface, with reasonably useful software and an install my grand ma could complete is the key. Also: Vendor support is a must. We have to have OEM's releasing their product to the OSS community so that quality drivers can be written and users dont have to hack their kernels just to get their wifi cards to work. --- "Murphy, James (Tech)" <jmurphy@bergenfield.org> wrote:
Guys For any linux distro to be successfull what we need to come up with is a combination of releases based on the following. 1 desktop [ lightweight kde] with yast set up with the 4 or 5 repositories 2 server distro with webmin and easy integration into a active directory network 3 multimedia distro that OEM builders could use on new home media centers, people have to have 1 company that will build on this, there is no other way to make linux into a household item.
-----Original Message----- From: Marcus Cooper [mailto:fmwt.marcus@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 8/10/2005 1:44 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Cc: Subject: Re: [opensuse] admin?? urm I think it means administrator your own account.
On 10/08/05, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
loging out of opensuse, I fall in a page with left column for account admin
http://www.opensuse.org/ICHAINLogout/?%22http://www.opensuse.org/cmd/ICSLogo...
is that normal? i'm not an admin :-)
(I know, it needs a pass to make things, but it's
gives bad
ideas :-)
-- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com
`The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST
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On Wednesday 10 August 2005 23:50, Carlos wrote:
I think there should definitely be desktop and server versions. I am not quite sold on the multimedia. I dont think having a MM release will aid in bringing linux into the forefront. I think a pollished interface, with reasonably useful software and an install my grand ma could complete is the key.
Isn't the server selections within YaST enough for this ? Keep in mind that there will be also lots of other user groups wanting their own distribution, if we start with this ... bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SuSE AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian@suse.de
Please, next time, open a new thread when you change subject :-) Adrian Schroeter wrote:
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 23:50, Carlos wrote:
I think there should definitely be desktop and server versions. I am not quite sold on the multimedia. I dont think having a MM release will aid in bringing linux into the forefront. I think a pollished interface, with reasonably useful software and an install my grand ma could complete is the key.
Isn't the server selections within YaST enough for this ? Keep in mind that there will be also lots of other user groups wanting their own distribution, if we start with this ...
bye adrian
it would be enough to add a "server only" choice in the initial install. I mean without any fantasy and the minimum place used on disk. icewm as window mananger... on a server, suse is largely bigger than debian (fe). Time ago, with an old P166 server, I tried to install the server without kde and finally could not achieve this, at any small install, yast insisted to add unusefull graphic files (this one wec console only) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
On 11/08/05, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
it would be enough to add a "server only" choice in the initial install. I mean without any fantasy and the minimum place used on disk. icewm as window mananger...
on a server, suse is largely bigger than debian (fe). Time ago, with an old P166 server, I tried to install the server without kde and finally could not achieve this, at any small install, yast insisted to add unusefull graphic files (this one wec console only)
jdd
urm wouldn't this just be a rename of the minimal system. When I installed a web server I just did the minimal + some other things. -- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com `The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Adrian Schroeter wrote:
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 23:50, Carlos wrote:
I think there should definitely be desktop and server versions. I am not quite sold on the multimedia. I dont think having a MM release will aid in bringing linux into the forefront. I think a pollished interface, with reasonably useful software and an install my grand ma could complete is the key.
Isn't the server selections within YaST enough for this ? Keep in mind that there will be also lots of other user groups wanting their own distribution, if we start with this ...
bye adrian
For what it is worth, I agree with Adrian. I would favor clear options in Yast to allow the user to set up the kind of system he or she wants. But only one distribution or everyone will spend more time arguing over what should be in this distribution and not that distribution. ---- Paul J. Gans
While I would like to keep SuSe on a technical phase there also comes the time to port SuSe to individual users who do not know the command installations. I would love to see this OS gain and possibly overtake the Windows menace monopoly. Make a desktop compatible for lay users and keep a server edition. Money talks and there is money in home users. I find some of my customers just cannot afford the time to command everything into their systems while with their using Windows it is just a download and install with screen options not like SuSe with source with all the commands which a lot do not know. Even I find some installations using the command install a nitemare while SuSe Admin state only use rpm there are a lot of programs in my field I must have that are source so I have no choice. But until vendors and developers make programs for SuSe rpm I have no choice but to use source installs. It takes way to much vendor and developer time to code to every Linux Distro instead of just using "no arch" so it would benefit SuSe in sales if they developed Yast to install from source and to port Yast like Apt in settling the way to many conflicts on installation of programs. Regards, George Greenarrow1 InNetInvestigations-Forensics ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Schroeter" <adrian@suse.de> To: <opensuse@opensuse.org> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] admin??
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 23:50, Carlos wrote:
I think there should definitely be desktop and server versions. I am not quite sold on the multimedia. I dont think having a MM release will aid in bringing linux into the forefront. I think a pollished interface, with reasonably useful software and an install my grand ma could complete is the key.
Isn't the server selections within YaST enough for this ? Keep in mind that there will be also lots of other user groups wanting their own distribution, if we start with this ...
bye adrian
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