* grantksupport@operamail.com [07-22-14 10:54]:

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014, at 07:41 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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What could cause this?

while in the midst of some historical list-reading, I'd guess "systemd" or "new users" ...

What "on earth" would systemd have to do with delaying list mail traffic? You are spreading FUD. ps: I read the list and definitely do NOT need a duplicate copy of your response. Respond ONLY to the list. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* grantksupport@operamail.com [07-22-14 12:03]:

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while in the midst of some historical list-reading, I'd guess "systemd" or "new users" ...

What "on earth" would systemd have to do with delaying list mail traffic?

You are spreading FUD.

a bit of humor & sarcasm lost on you? emoticons a new concept? never read the knee-jerk blame-it-on-systemd-or-newusers responses?

Saw NO humor and no emoticons, perhaps written in invisible chars.

seriously, get a life ...

Have one and STILL DO NOT NEED DUPLICATE POSTS! get real. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

Saw NO humor and no emoticons, perhaps written in invisible chars.

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seriously, get a life ...

Saw them here.

Have one and STILL DO NOT NEED DUPLICATE POSTS! get real.

--- Maybe you need an extra copy in HTML? ;-) [<emote>*smile with a raised eyebrow on one side*</emote>, so that you can better see formatting and alternate representations? As for the duplicate copies, I see that you finally decided to stop blaming others and to set your reply to field to point to the list instead of *TELLING OTHER PEOPLE to REPLY to YOU*.... That's what the list rules are broken. They give advice that is contrary to mandated RFC standards, that disregards the fact that whether one gets "duplicate"[sic] responses is the choice of the author being responded *to*. I.e. if you set your email reader to configure a "Reply-to: <listname> on those lists where you don't want a personal copy, you shouldn't get a copy. Those are the standards. Asking individual humans that are not programmable with things like "auto-header-detection" and such is taking your hostility out on the users for following RFC's. Face it. SuSE rules state that users should ignore RFC's and then blame users when those rules are ignored. How is that different from a "setup"...that sets up conditions making it likely that users will violate the non-standard rules, then holding the user responsible? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

:0: * ^From.*suse/@tlinx/.org|\ ^From.*akulkis /dev/null

Really stops dups and long winded, inane, ignorant comments And there ya go, giving out false information.

For those that would want to block me, they shouldn't include "slashes" in the address, but backslashes (if needed). Long-winded? maybe, but Inane and ignorant? Um... I think that better fits your advice, given your example. Besides, you've already programmed your reply-to to send to the list, so you wouldn't get hit by someone following RFC's anyway. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Henne Vogelsang wrote:

Hey,

remember this post?

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-06/msg01805.html

How about you two take it to heart and relax? :-)

Henne

---- I was quite relaxed. I didn't go out of my way to tell the list how to block someone's email -- but, instead, have, more than once, explained how they can have what they want without blaming others. On top of not telling how to block someone's email, I also didn't mess up my "insult" by giving the wrong syntax. Personally, I find humor relaxing, and seeing someone so clearly stick their foot in their mouth that wasn't *me*, for a change, was very relaxing! ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Linda Walsh wrote:

decided to stop blaming others and to set your reply to field to point to the list instead of *TELLING OTHER PEOPLE to REPLY to YOU*....

That's what the list rules are broken. They give advice that is contrary to mandated RFC standards, that disregards the fact that whether one gets "duplicate"[sic] responses is the choice of the author being responded *to*.

Care to state which RfC you refer to? ==== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email#Header_fields Reply-To: Address that should be used to reply to the message. ==== http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322 ==== 3.6.2. Originator Fields The originator fields of a message consist of the from field, the sender field (when applicable), and optionally the reply-to field. [..] When the "Reply-To:" field is present, it indicates the address(es) to which the author of the message suggests that replies be sent. ==== If you reply to a message with a reply-to Header, you should reply to the address(es) specified in that header. You need not reply to _ONLY_ that address(es). You are free to e.g. also add To/CC this mailinglist. JFTR, -dnh -- <sct> Anyone want the new supermount? :) <klogd> whats new aboutit <sct> klogd: It cleans whiter than white. :) -- Seen on #Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/22/2014 11:51 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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El 2014-07-22 a las 09:41 -0500, David C. Rankin escribió:

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All,

For the past 24 hours or so, I've had some messages that take over 1/2 hour to reach the list, while some get there in 2 secs. Is anyone else seeing this? What could cause this?

If you have some messageids, I can check them.

- -- Cheers Carlos E. R.

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Carlos, Thanks. Here are a couple from today. Delayed for long enough I left for a depo before it it the list: Message-ID: <53CE71CF.8070604@suddenlinkmail.com> Sent after 53CE71CF.8070604, but hit the list immediately: Message-ID: <53CE7808.5060307@suddenlinkmail.com> -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/23/2014 06:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

But those two are your messages. I mean some of me that don't display correctly.

(Uugh - sorry) That's what I was talking about. Messages I send. Some go straight to the opensuse list. Some seem to spin around in the ether for over 1/2 hour before showing up. Strange. The last 24 hours seem fine though. Gremlins... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hey, On 23.07.2014 06:27, David C. Rankin wrote:

Delayed for long enough I left for a depo before it it the list:

Message-ID: <53CE71CF.8070604@suddenlinkmail.com>

The thread this mail has gone to is moderated. Moderation happens irregularly... BTW Why didn't you just ask opensuse+owner@opensuse.org instead of the list? Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Mailinglist Admin http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org