* Richard Bos [Jun 01. 2004 20:52]:

Op dinsdag 1 juni 2004 02:18, schreef Trey Sizemore:

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When running apt-get, I get the message that the gaim and amarok packages are being held back.  I don't see anything in my apt.conf file where this was specified.  I want to update these package, so what should I be checking to remedy this?

What errors are you getting exactly?

Gaim can't really be installed unless you have the dvd: linux:~ # apt -s install gaim Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done

The following packages have unmet dependencies: gaim: Depends: libgnutls.so.10 but it is not installable Depends: libgnutls.so.10(GNUTLS_REL_1_0) but it is not installable E: Broken packages

Yes, I realize I've built gaim against gnutls where it used to be mozilla in the past. But it stopped working for me using mozilla libs at some point, and then I switched. Now the problem is there's no gnutls available (except for me of course ;), so the options are: 1) I remove the gaim package from my pub/people dir, since I've given it to the fine Ximian people to do a better job than me. 2) I leave it and people have the chance to use it with a self compiled gnutls. Opinions? -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

* Richard Bos [Jun 01. 2004 23:37]:

Can you give a hint to the ximian folks to provide the gnutls package? It would make the supplementary/GNOME/update_for_9.1/applications/ directory complete, isn't it?

If it was that simple, I would just provide it in pub/people/mmj. But there's some export/legal stuff with this being encryption and SUSE being an american company now. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

* Anders Johansson [Jun 02. 2004 01:51]:

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Can you give a hint to the ximian folks to provide the gnutls package? It would make the supplementary/GNOME/update_for_9.1/applications/ directory complete, isn't it?

If it was that simple, I would just provide it in pub/people/mmj. But there's some export/legal stuff with this being encryption and SUSE being an american company now.

1. Ximian already provide gnutls in their evolution-devel-snapshot directory 2. So does suse, on the 9.1 discs

But could you please expand on your argument. The original reason I moved from red hat to suse all those years ago was that idiocy surrounding encryption. suse being a european company meant I could get everything nicely precompiled and didn't have to scan the web for things the way I had to with red hat.

Are you saying I'm in the same situation again? Will I have to move on to some other distro now?

I wouldn't go this far yet. The whole Novell thing is still pretty new to us, and certainly was when 9.1 was getting done. We didn't want to take any chances, so it was played safe everywhere. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

* Anders Johansson [Jun 02. 2004 07:11]:

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We didn't want to take any chances, so it was played safe everywhere.

I guess not, since gnutls is actually included in 9.1 (it's on the DVD, though it was left off the CDs).

Yes, the reason it was left off the CDs is that there's less room than on the DVD, and this is one of the differences.

Oh well, it's ok for now I guess. I'll have something to look forward to in 9.2 then :)

It's in pub/people/mmj as soon as the sync is done. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

Op woensdag 2 juni 2004 07:12, schreef Mads Martin Joergensen:

The gnutls package indeed is on the media, so I've added it to my pub/people dir as well, so it's there together with gaim.

Now gnutls can't be installed, because: linux:~ # apt install gnutls Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnutls: Depends: libopencdk.so.8 but it is not installable E: Broken packages libopencdk is not availabe in a suse rpm... -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

Op woensdag 2 juni 2004 22:20, schreef Anders Johansson:

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The following packages have unmet dependencies:   gnutls: Depends: libopencdk.so.8 but it is not installable E: Broken packages

libopencdk is not availabe in a suse rpm...

Yes it is, again it's on the DVD, not on the CDs, but it's there

Ah, it's time to get the DVD version online than :) -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

Op woensdag 2 juni 2004 23:29, schreef Mads Martin Joergensen:

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The following packages have unmet dependencies:   gnutls: Depends: libopencdk.so.8 but it is not installable E: Broken packages

libopencdk is not availabe in a suse rpm...

people/mmj/9.1/i386/libopencdk-0.5.3-34.1.i586.rpm

Better?

Well yes, it's complete now :) -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

* Trey Sizemore [06-05-04 21:23]:

I get the following error, myself:

error: Failed dependencies: liblzo.so.1 is needed by gnutls-1.0.8-26

Where can I obtain this file?

from a command-line, 'man pin' -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On Saturday 05 June 2004 21:22, Trey Sizemore wrote:

On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 23:29 +0200, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

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people/mmj/9.1/i386/libopencdk-0.5.3-34.1.i586.rpm

Better?

I get the following error, myself:

error: Failed dependencies: liblzo.so.1 is needed by gnutls-1.0.8-26

Where can I obtain this file?

Thanks. I believe the pkg is lzo, actually. Someone will flame me if I'm wrong... <G> -- ...CH SuSE 9 Works Linux user# 313696 Linux box# 199365