[opensuse] OpenOffice writer nuisance pop up
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When I'm editing a document with a table, every time my cursor clicks on a table, I get a pop up box with table tools. I remove it, go to another table, it pops again. I remove it, switch to another table and back, it pops again. How can I tell it to NEVER pop up, unless manually requested? It is a real nuisance. I hadn't this nasty behaviour a few months back - 10.2/10.1? - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvrDAtTMYHG2NR9URAlZMAJ9hrkQs+SBhfxMmhQu8O+su6/7bMgCfX2vs HAsctnK/oV4tPQSv0e0gcz4= =C7Pt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
When I'm editing a document with a table, every time my cursor clicks on a table, I get a pop up box with table tools. I remove it, go to another table, it pops again. I remove it, switch to another table and back, it pops again.
How can I tell it to NEVER pop up, unless manually requested? It is a real nuisance. I hadn't this nasty behaviour a few months back - 10.2/10.1?
You can either dock it, or goto View > Toolbars and remove the check beside Table. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-02-22 at 12:51 +0100, Clayton wrote:
How can I tell it to NEVER pop up, unless manually requested? It is a real nuisance. I hadn't this nasty behaviour a few months back - 10.2/10.1?
You can either dock it, or goto View > Toolbars and remove the check beside Table.
I don't want it docked, there is no space, and it uses a lot. I don't want it anywhere. The View > Toolbars > Table is not checked, no effect. I had already tried that. It automatically checks itself back whenever I cursor over a table. I'm having the same problem with the "bullets" tool box. I do not want _any_ tool box automatically popping in! I have only a 1024*768 display, there is no space for so much clutter. That's fine for OOo developers having a state of the art computer, not for normal people out there :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvr05tTMYHG2NR9URAoVdAJ9bfQ47OtRXaKU2C69WgXBIBpwvLgCfQ32q K0e9ZiwQ8O4OwC3GNJC78QU= =jbF0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: | | | I'm having the same problem with the "bullets" tool box. I do not want | _any_ tool box automatically popping in! I have only a 1024*768 display, | there is no space for so much clutter. That's fine for OOo developers | having a state of the art computer, not for normal people out there :-( | | | -- Cheers, | Carlos E. R. | Looks like a bug, if you can not configure its behavior? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. ~ Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Current user: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ System: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 4.0.1 (KDE 4.0.1) "release 9.1" ~ OS: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.6" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvr9mX5/X5X6LpDgRAoi5AJ9gkrdEgVjNGVCt6/ozBKK+s4FzqgCgmqha KFl84HXntleYv8ZMQijNtXc= =pib1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-02-22 at 13:26 +0100, M9. wrote:
Looks like a bug, if you can not configure its behavior?
If you close the table tool box, you go to another part of the document with no table, and come back, doesn't it pop back, or dock in? If it doesn't, it is no bug, is configuration somewhere. Where? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvsGltTMYHG2NR9URAvluAJ4r4ORhoQ3a5+rslflCqhVj+fuUlgCfaSxE aWmqVchtd72bzBD0HgVXfxo= =/Hza -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
The View > Toolbars > Table is not checked, no effect. I had already tried that. It automatically checks itself back whenever I cursor over a table.
I'm having the same problem with the "bullets" tool box. I do not want _any_ tool box automatically popping in! I have only a 1024*768 display, there is no space for so much clutter. That's fine for OOo developers having a state of the art computer, not for normal people out there :-(
OOo developers at Sun don't have massive desktops. They are mostly using SunRays with fairly small TFT displays. :-) What version of OOo are you fighting with? Are you using Novell's custom build or the official OOo release? I ask because there is a difference. The Novell version have a lot of extras that have not yet made it into the core builds yet. These extras can have an effect on how OOo behaves. Also... have you installed any OOo Extensions recently? I tested it here using OOo 2.3.1 (Novell build). I opened an empty document, added dummy text (type dt and press F3). Then I created a small table. Clicking in the table makes the table tool bar pop up. I go to View > Toolbars, and remove the check next to Table. Then I click away from the table. The popup is removed. Click back in the table and no table toolbar shows up. This is what is supposed to happen. If you're finding other behavior, then something isn't right with OOo. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/22/2008 08:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2008-02-22 at 13:26 +0100, M9. wrote:
Looks like a bug, if you can not configure its behavior?
If you close the table tool box, you go to another part of the document with no table, and come back, doesn't it pop back, or dock in?
If it doesn't, it is no bug, is configuration somewhere. Where?
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
On mine, 2.3.1 x86_64 version, it is controlled by View, Toolbars, Table. With it unchecked, it does not pop back up. With it checked, it does as you said. It will pop back up if closed and then click back in the table. But with View, Toolbars, Table unchecked, that does not happen here. joe@jmorris:~> rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-14 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.1.2-6.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-53 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-openclipart-2-47 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-610.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-14 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-51 -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-02-22 at 13:45 +0100, Clayton wrote:
I'm having the same problem with the "bullets" tool box. I do not want _any_ tool box automatically popping in! I have only a 1024*768 display, there is no space for so much clutter. That's fine for OOo developers having a state of the art computer, not for normal people out there :-(
OOo developers at Sun don't have massive desktops. They are mostly using SunRays with fairly small TFT displays. :-)
Someone must be doing the testing with high resolution displays only.
What version of OOo are you fighting with? Are you using Novell's custom build or the official OOo release?
Novell build, version 2.3 from the stable branch.
I ask because there is a difference. The Novell version have a lot of extras that have not yet made it into the core builds yet. These extras can have an effect on how OOo behaves. Also... have you installed any OOo Extensions recently?
No that I know. Neither recently, not ever, that I remember.
I tested it here using OOo 2.3.1 (Novell build). I opened an empty document, added dummy text (type dt and press F3). Then I created a small table. Clicking in the table makes the table tool bar pop up. I go to View > Toolbars, and remove the check next to Table. Then I click away from the table. The popup is removed. Click back in the table and no table toolbar shows up. This is what is supposed to happen. If you're finding other behavior, then something isn't right with OOo.
I do what you describe, and when I go back to the table, the tool box kick in again, and the tick box is ticked again. :-/ Correction. If I create a new document, I get your described behaviour. I see no table tool. If I go back to my previous document, still opened, the table tool kicks back in. And the bullet tool box too, after I tried "resetting" view-tools options. I untick table in view/toolbars, and the table toolbar kicks back in if I move the cursor to a table. This behaviour is only in previous documents (the two I tried). [...] I Got It! I have to untick the box on EVERY table. Then it remembers that I don't want the toolbox for _that_ table. What a ... This is not documented: I just read the help for this. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvs6stTMYHG2NR9URAtCRAKCXtQpyUV6EuXAe5bsqBcHDqRnudQCaAt6l rypswtDqG8y2afUKBmYhze8= =7QAw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I have to untick the box on EVERY table. Then it remembers that I don't want the toolbox for _that_ table.
What a ...
This is not documented: I just read the help for this.
It's not documented because that should not work that way. If you turn off the table toolbar, it is supposed to stay off for all tables in all documents until you turn it on again. Does your problem document have multiple text flows (although I just tried inserting a text frame with text and a table and it respected the global table toolbar setting) or some other unusual configuration? Did the document start life in MS Office? I tested creating a second document without closing the first... it respected the toolbar setting. I also tested closing all OOo instances and restarting. Created a new document with a table and it respected my toolbar settings. This is what I would expect... so something is odd with your document.. or with your OOo install. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-02-22 at 14:44 +0100, Clayton wrote:
I have to untick the box on EVERY table. Then it remembers that I don't want the toolbox for _that_ table.
What a ...
This is not documented: I just read the help for this.
It's not documented because that should not work that way. If you turn off the table toolbar, it is supposed to stay off for all tables in all documents until you turn it on again.
But it doesn't. Not here.
Does your problem document have multiple text flows (although I just tried inserting a text frame with text and a table and it respected the global table toolbar setting) or some other unusual configuration?
Not that I see or remember.
Did the document start life in MS Office?
Could be, years ago. This is version 31, started in wordperfect, then amipro, then word (not sure), then staroffice, then OOo... some of the migrations were "imports", some started fresh, perhaps with some copypaste. But I get the same behaviour in a new document I created for testing this.
I tested creating a second document without closing the first... it respected the toolbar setting. I also tested closing all OOo instances and restarting. Created a new document with a table and it respected my toolbar settings. This is what I would expect... so something is odd with your document.. or with your OOo install.
I'm using gnome. Could it have anything to do? It shouldn't... I could try removing my home OO configuration dir. cer@nimrodel:~ > rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-es-20050720-14 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-mono-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-14 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-officebean-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-14 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-591 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-es-2.3.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-51 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-53 OpenOffice_org-openclipart-2-47 OpenOffice_org-gnome-2.3.1.2-2.1 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvu0ZtTMYHG2NR9URAluHAJ4haiLGvQ1tD4TZLUlZTEnPXsbyBQCfTwyg DTzLrUxs0My+Fn5V6UaYtgM= =IhFl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2008-02-22 at 12:51 +0100, Clayton wrote:
How can I tell it to NEVER pop up, unless manually requested? It is a real nuisance. I hadn't this nasty behaviour a few months back - 10.2/10.1?
You can either dock it, or goto View > Toolbars and remove the check beside Table.
I don't want it docked, there is no space, and it uses a lot. I don't want it anywhere.
The View > Toolbars > Table is not checked, no effect. I had already tried that. It automatically checks itself back whenever I cursor over a table.
I'm having the same problem with the "bullets" tool box. I do not want _any_ tool box automatically popping in! I have only a 1024*768 display, there is no space for so much clutter. That's fine for OOo developers having a state of the art computer, not for normal people out there :-(
Bob, Only workaround is to let the dialog open, then while you are still in the table, click the X to close the dialog and it will remain closed while you are in the document from then on unless you call it back up. Same for the other dialogs. But this is required each time you open the document. My letterhead is a table -- I hate it too. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-02-23 at 09:45 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2008-02-22 at 12:51 +0100, Clayton wrote:
How can I tell it to NEVER pop up, unless manually requested? It is a real nuisance. I hadn't this nasty behaviour a few months back - 10.2/10.1?
You can either dock it, or goto View > Toolbars and remove the check beside Table.
I don't want it docked, there is no space, and it uses a lot. I don't want it anywhere.
The View > Toolbars > Table is not checked, no effect. I had already tried that. It automatically checks itself back whenever I cursor over a table.
I'm having the same problem with the "bullets" tool box. I do not want _any_ tool box automatically popping in! I have only a 1024*768 display, there is no space for so much clutter. That's fine for OOo developers having a state of the art computer, not for normal people out there :-(
Bob,
Bob?
Only workaround is to let the dialog open, then while you are still in the table, click the X to close the dialog and it will remain closed while you are in the document from then on unless you call it back up. Same for the other dialogs. But this is required each time you open the document. My letterhead is a table -- I hate it too.
Doesn't work. There are several tables in my documents: if you close it in one that way, it pops back in when I get to the next table. The only method that seems to work is to cycle through all the tables in the document, and close the popup in /view/tools/table. Every one of them. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHwERotTMYHG2NR9URAt8HAJ0Yo7Giuid/TBi+mPjuAZBemDeAmwCdFonH EspBUUh0/jSkq2rx0pkC+uY= =xivX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Only workaround is to let the dialog open, then while you are still in the table, click the X to close the dialog and it will remain closed while you are in the document from then on unless you call it back up. Same for the other dialogs. But this is required each time you open the document. My letterhead is a table -- I hate it too.
Doesn't work. There are several tables in my documents: if you close it in one that way, it pops back in when I get to the next table.
The only method that seems to work is to cycle through all the tables in the document, and close the popup in /view/tools/table. Every one of them.
Something is definitely not right here. I will ask the guys at work on Monday and see if anyone knows why this is happening. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-02-23 at 20:25 +0100, Clayton wrote:
The only method that seems to work is to cycle through all the tables in the document, and close the popup in /view/tools/table. Every one of them.
Something is definitely not right here. I will ask the guys at work on Monday and see if anyone knows why this is happening.
Thanks. It is weird, yes... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHwU2ntTMYHG2NR9URAv+nAJ9MvkhN9Bxvihwao8ztwenyEDFudgCdHd3D yIXIRbt4tLtr8P4vYcMDnkc= =CmR5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I have to untick the box on EVERY table. Then it remembers that I don't want the toolbox for _that_ table.
[snip]
But I get the same behaviour in a new document I created for testing this.
I tested creating a second document without closing the first... it respected the toolbar setting. I also tested closing all OOo instances and restarting. Created a new document with a table and it respected my toolbar settings. This is what I would expect... so something is odd with your document.. or with your OOo install.
I'm using gnome. Could it have anything to do? It shouldn't...
I could try removing my home OO configuration dir.
OK, I asked around here in the office (OOo developers etc.) and they said that OOo should: - by default pop up a relevant toolbar eg the table toolbar when you put the cursor in a table - turn off that auto toolbar for all tables in Writer when you go to View > Toolbars and remove the check next to the relevant toolbar. - respect that setting for all new documents opened (ie it persists after closing OOo and reopening). So my guess is something has gone wrong in your OOo config directory. Try renaming it and then launching OOo? Maybe that will reset things back to normal. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2008-02-25 at 16:10 +0100, Clayton wrote:
OK, I asked around here in the office (OOo developers etc.) and they said that OOo should: - by default pop up a relevant toolbar eg the table toolbar when you put the cursor in a table - turn off that auto toolbar for all tables in Writer when you go to View > Toolbars and remove the check next to the relevant toolbar. - respect that setting for all new documents opened (ie it persists after closing OOo and reopening).
I tried with another user, and yes, that's the behaviour.
So my guess is something has gone wrong in your OOo config directory. Try renaming it and then launching OOo? Maybe that will reset things back to normal.
Yes... it did. I just tried. Thanks! If you can, tell them that an option to [des|re]activate the context toolbox inside the context menu could be nice ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHwuHqtTMYHG2NR9URAkEdAJoCwLEYRHm/gaA8M+c9fSpgpd/9+ACghepW G/fSQg08mQzuP3y1phU4hbA= =aBp4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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