[opensuse] My root password has changed!
Yesterday I was out of town. This morning I tried to start up the wifi (11.0 doesn't restart the network after a suspend-to-disk), and the root password I've been using since I got this computer doesn't work now. All the other accounts that I've tried login fine. john@embelex:~> su Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su - Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su root Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse? John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry wrote:
Yesterday I was out of town. This morning I tried to start up the wifi (11.0 doesn't restart the network after a suspend-to-disk), and the root password I've been using since I got this computer doesn't work now. All the other accounts that I've tried login fine.
john@embelex:~> su Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su - Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su root Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~>
Hi John, You need to go in single user mode and then reset your root password. Thanks Gowrishankar Rajaiyan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 22:01 -0400, John E. Perry wrote:
Yesterday I was out of town. This morning I tried to start up the wifi (11.0 doesn't restart the network after a suspend-to-disk), and the root password I've been using since I got this computer doesn't work now. All the other accounts that I've tried login fine.
john@embelex:~> su Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su - Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su root Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~>
Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse?
Cracking the root account has been covered on the list a few times. Try using sudo <command> and see if that does what you need it to. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike McMullin wrote:
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Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse?
Cracking the root account has been covered on the list a few times.
Yeah, it occurred to me after I hit "Send" that I should have searched the archives first. Sorry for the noise.
Try using sudo <command> and see if that does what you need it to.
That's how I found the problem -- "sudo iwl". iwl is my script for restarting the iwlwifi system when it fails after a suspend. Yes, it would have been better to include the original command in the list of things I'd tried. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 01:45 -0400, John E. Perry wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
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Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse?
Cracking the root account has been covered on the list a few times.
Yeah, it occurred to me after I hit "Send" that I should have searched the archives first. Sorry for the noise.
It's not noise to me. I'm curious as to how this happened, and figured out that would be disclosed along the way at some point.
Try using sudo <command> and see if that does what you need it to.
That's how I found the problem -- "sudo iwl". iwl is my script for restarting the iwlwifi system when it fails after a suspend. Yes, it would have been better to include the original command in the list of things I'd tried.
That would have helped yes, and you'll know for next time to try and provide better info, it's no biggie, it's called learning. Odd thing here, sudo on my systems (10.2, 10.3 and 11.0) ask for my password not roots, su(x) requires roots password. You may want to look into changing permissions on that script. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Mike McMullin
Odd thing here, sudo on my systems (10.2, 10.3 and 11.0) ask for my password not roots, su(x) requires roots password. You may want to look into changing permissions on that script.
Still on 10.1 and sudo requires root's pswd. # In the default (unconfigured) configuration, sudo asks for the root password. # This allows use of an ordinary user account for administration of a freshly # installed system. When configuring sudo, delete the two # following lines: Defaults targetpw # ask for the password of the target user i.e. root ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL # WARNING! Only use this together with 'Defaults targetpw'! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry a écrit :
Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse?
boot rescue mode from any dvd and try understanding what happen. It's not normal... something went wrong or somebody used your computer jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin Président du CULTe www.culte.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd sur free wrote:
John E. Perry a écrit :
Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse?
boot rescue mode from any dvd and try understanding what happen. It's not normal...
Thanks for the second way of doing it, but another list member sent me a link http://www.susegeek.com/general/how-to-resetrecover-the-root-password-in-ope... that solved my problem immediately.
something went wrong or somebody used your computer
Since I go into root rather rarely, it may have been quite a few days since I last used root. One of my family visitors (grandson) is something of a jokester, and I suspect him :-). He and his father left last Sunday, and don't think I've had occasion to go into root since then. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2008-08-05 08:16, John E. Perry wrote:
Since I go into root rather rarely, it may have been quite a few days since I last used root. One of my family visitors (grandson) is something of a jokester, and I suspect him :-). He and his father left last Sunday, and don't think I've had occasion to go into root since then.
jp
Try grepping for "password changed" in /var/log/messages to get some hints :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
On 2008-08-05 08:16, John E. Perry wrote:
Since I go into root rather rarely, it may have been quite a few days since I last used root. One of my family visitors (grandson) is something of a jokester, and I suspect him :-). He and his father left last Sunday, and don't think I've had occasion to go into root since then. ... Try grepping for "password changed" in /var/log/messages to get some hints :-)
Arrgh! Thanks, Sylvester. I'd installed Russian language support for my daughter-in-law, who's Russian. There's something called scim that pops up every once in a while and takes over my user interface. When I just tried to do sudo so I could get into messages, the password failed yet again. I noticed the notation "en-ispell" on the scim taskbar, and looked for something more appropriate. At the end I found "en-keyboard", clicked that, and I have root back again. BTW, the only "password changed" entry was the grep command :-). Apparently the passwd command I had executed at init level 1 didn't go into /var/log/messages. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry a écrit :
appropriate. At the end I found "en-keyboard", clicked that, and I have root back again.
two kind of problems: * QWERTY/localisez keyboard. For french, having "m" or "z" in a passwd gives sometime problem is the keyboard is not what is expected * upper/lower cases jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin Président du CULTe www.culte.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd sur free wrote:
John E. Perry a écrit :
appropriate. At the end I found "en-keyboard", clicked that, and I have root back again.
two kind of problems:
* QWERTY/localisez keyboard. For french, having "m" or "z" in a passwd gives sometime problem is the keyboard is not what is expected * upper/lower cases
And a third, numlock state. DC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd sur free wrote:
John E. Perry a écrit :
appropriate. At the end I found "en-keyboard", clicked that, and I have root back again.
two kind of problems:
* QWERTY/localisez keyboard. For french, having "m" or "z" in a passwd gives sometime problem is the keyboard is not what is expected * upper/lower cases
I'm altogether too aware of upper/lower case problems. Another problem I have frequently is the damn touchpad the manufacturers put on these laptops -- I keep forgetting to hold my thumbs way up in the air to keep the cursor from jumping around. I thought at first that was my problem. At least I can disable the thing on this hp. God, I wish I could get an integrated trackball. jp --scim just popped up again with "en-ispell" selected. Arrgh! jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry wrote:
Yesterday I was out of town. This morning I tried to start up the wifi (11.0 doesn't restart the network after a suspend-to-disk), and the root password I've been using since I got this computer doesn't work now. All the other accounts that I've tried login fine.
john@embelex:~> su Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su - Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~> su root Password: su: incorrect password john@embelex:~>
Is there anything I can do short of reinstalling suse?
John Perry
It is possible to boot with a rescue CD and remove or change the root password, but if you're certain the password has changed, I'd be worried about running a compromised system. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
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It is possible to boot with a rescue CD and remove or change the root password, but if you're certain the password has changed, I'd be worried about running a compromised system.
As I'd already mentioned, my problem is solved. But as I also mentioned, but maybe didn't emphasize enough, the problem was never a password change. It was interference from something called scim, which aids in multilingual environments by intercepting (apparently) keystrokes and interpreting them for multiple language support. I was typing the correct password, but it was never getting to the authentication code. It was being intercepted and changed by scim. Once I found this out, and set scim to "en-keyboard" (and, later, that exiting from the toolbar solved the problem), there was no more problem. John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 August 2008 08:29, John E. Perry wrote:
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I was typing the correct password, but it was never getting to the authentication code. It was being intercepted and changed by scim. Once I found this out, and set scim to "en-keyboard" (and, later, that exiting from the toolbar solved the problem), there was no more problem.
Sounds like an excellent way to steal passwords...
John Perry
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 05 August 2008 08:29, John E. Perry wrote:
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I was typing the correct password, but it was never getting to the authentication code. It was being intercepted and changed by scim. Once I found this out, and set scim to "en-keyboard" (and, later, that exiting from the toolbar solved the problem), there was no more problem.
Sounds like an excellent way to steal passwords...
Hm, yes. So either I trust the people at http://www.scim-im.org/ (and suse, where I got the package) or I do without multilingual support? I don't see any other way to get Cyrillic text from an American keyboard -- something like scim has to be present. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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