[opensuse] HD 6310 and Leap 42.3
Hi!, Does anybody have experience using HD 6310 GPUs with newer kernels?, I have and old E350M1/USB3 motherboard that would like to turn into a kodi appliance. I've seen a lot of bad reports regarding radeon opensource driver performance, has this been improved in newer kernels?. Also, HDMI audio seems to be hit or miss. Would love to have some feedback on this. Regards, -- Ciro Iriarte http://iriarte.it -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, I had an E450 with the HD6320 graphics three years back. Basically the same chip just slightly better binned. I was impressed by the performance of this little chip. Never had any serious problems. I haven't used HDMI-audio, though. Heard it's not working with the opensource drivers. But Catalyst should help you there. It's worth a try! Simon Am 27.07.2017 um 20:32 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:
Hi!,
Does anybody have experience using HD 6310 GPUs with newer kernels?, I have and old E350M1/USB3 motherboard that would like to turn into a kodi appliance. I've seen a lot of bad reports regarding radeon opensource driver performance, has this been improved in newer kernels?.
Also, HDMI audio seems to be hit or miss. Would love to have some feedback on this.
Regards,
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Thanks Simon, the thing is that Catalyst support was dropped after
Leap 42.1. With 42.2 and 42.3 the only option is the opensource
driver.
Regards,
CI.-
2017-07-27 15:20 GMT-04:00 Simon Heimbach
Hi,
I had an E450 with the HD6320 graphics three years back. Basically the same chip just slightly better binned.
I was impressed by the performance of this little chip. Never had any serious problems.
I haven't used HDMI-audio, though. Heard it's not working with the opensource drivers. But Catalyst should help you there. It's worth a try!
Simon
Am 27.07.2017 um 20:32 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:
Hi!,
Does anybody have experience using HD 6310 GPUs with newer kernels?, I have and old E350M1/USB3 motherboard that would like to turn into a kodi appliance. I've seen a lot of bad reports regarding radeon opensource driver performance, has this been improved in newer kernels?.
Also, HDMI audio seems to be hit or miss. Would love to have some feedback on this.
Regards,
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-- Ciro Iriarte http://iriarte.it -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hm. You're right. I thought the old chips are still supported, but I was wrong. According to the official XOrg-website (https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/), the HDMI-audio-output for Southern Islands is supported. Unfortunately I can't test it for you as my old computer is broken. On my successor R4 and Carrizzo the HDMI-output actually shows up with the open-source radeon driver. I don't have HDMI-headphones whatsoever but it's maybe worth a shot :). Am 27.07.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:
Thanks Simon, the thing is that Catalyst support was dropped after Leap 42.1. With 42.2 and 42.3 the only option is the opensource driver.
Regards, CI.-
2017-07-27 15:20 GMT-04:00 Simon Heimbach
: Hi,
I had an E450 with the HD6320 graphics three years back. Basically the same chip just slightly better binned.
I was impressed by the performance of this little chip. Never had any serious problems.
I haven't used HDMI-audio, though. Heard it's not working with the opensource drivers. But Catalyst should help you there. It's worth a try!
Simon
Am 27.07.2017 um 20:32 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:
Hi!,
Does anybody have experience using HD 6310 GPUs with newer kernels?, I have and old E350M1/USB3 motherboard that would like to turn into a kodi appliance. I've seen a lot of bad reports regarding radeon opensource driver performance, has this been improved in newer kernels?.
Also, HDMI audio seems to be hit or miss. Would love to have some feedback on this.
Regards,
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On 07/28/2017 12:50 PM, Simon Heimbach wrote:
Hm. You're right. I thought the old chips are still supported, but I was wrong.
That's why I will never buy an ATI video card again (or laptop with an ATI card). They just "drop" all support for older products, users be damned. What was new a couple of years ago to ATI is suddenly "Legacy" and "Unsupported". Been though several iterations of this -- the first in Aug. 09 when all fglrx support for everything less that the 2600 series cards was just dropped. Poof - Sorry you bought that expensive laptop a few years ago, but... Every nvidia card is still supported. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin schreef op 29-07-2017 10:31:
On 07/28/2017 12:50 PM, Simon Heimbach wrote:
Hm. You're right. I thought the old chips are still supported, but I was wrong.
That's why I will never buy an ATI video card again (or laptop with an ATI card). They just "drop" all support for older products, users be damned. What was new a couple of years ago to ATI is suddenly "Legacy" and "Unsupported". Been though several iterations of this -- the first in Aug. 09 when all fglrx support for everything less that the 2600 series cards was just dropped. Poof - Sorry you bought that expensive laptop a few years ago, but...
Every nvidia card is still supported.
Not by the newest drivers though. E.g. some nVidia cards require a maximum driver version of something like 325. It's true that those drivers are still available, but when I tried using one things started crashing (this was a Cinnamon experience). Probably more of a Cinnamon thing though, but you get the point. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-07-29 10:36, Xen wrote:
David C. Rankin schreef op 29-07-2017 10:31:
On 07/28/2017 12:50 PM, Simon Heimbach wrote:
Hm. You're right. I thought the old chips are still supported, but I was wrong.
That's why I will never buy an ATI video card again (or laptop with an ATI card). They just "drop" all support for older products, users be damned. What was new a couple of years ago to ATI is suddenly "Legacy" and "Unsupported". Been though several iterations of this -- the first in Aug. 09 when all fglrx support for everything less that the 2600 series cards was just dropped. Poof - Sorry you bought that expensive laptop a few years ago, but...
Every nvidia card is still supported.
Not by the newest drivers though.
E.g. some nVidia cards require a maximum driver version of something like 325. It's true that those drivers are still available, but when I tried using one things started crashing (this was a Cinnamon experience). Probably more of a Cinnamon thing though, but you get the point.
I built this computer on 2009. It has an nvidia card and it is still supported. However, some say that the ATI/AMD drivers got opened and that there is better support from open drivers :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. schreef op 29-07-2017 15:55:
On 2017-07-29 10:36, Xen wrote:
David C. Rankin schreef op 29-07-2017 10:31:
On 07/28/2017 12:50 PM, Simon Heimbach wrote:
Hm. You're right. I thought the old chips are still supported, but I was wrong.
That's why I will never buy an ATI video card again (or laptop with an ATI card). They just "drop" all support for older products, users be damned. What was new a couple of years ago to ATI is suddenly "Legacy" and "Unsupported". Been though several iterations of this -- the first in Aug. 09 when all fglrx support for everything less that the 2600 series cards was just dropped. Poof - Sorry you bought that expensive laptop a few years ago, but...
Every nvidia card is still supported.
Not by the newest drivers though.
E.g. some nVidia cards require a maximum driver version of something like 325. It's true that those drivers are still available, but when I tried using one things started crashing (this was a Cinnamon experience). Probably more of a Cinnamon thing though, but you get the point.
I built this computer on 2009. It has an nvidia card and it is still supported.
However, some say that the ATI/AMD drivers got opened and that there is better support from open drivers :-?
Well, ... No, there are... there are now two Open drivers, one for slightly older cards and then the newer one that supports the latest. There is the AMD-GPU Pro that supports the latest and the older Radeon driver is supposed to support the 6310. The 6310 is a "Northern Island" chip but that has probably been said here already. Apparently this was the RadeonDriver page: https://www.x.org/wiki/radeon/ With the support matrix: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ But this is the AMDGPU-Pro page, directly from AMD: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver–Release-Notes.aspx So in Linux distributions there appears to have been a breach between the old and the new. And the reason for this is probably that AMD opened its driver, but AMD itself does not support older chipsets with it? Which was the complaint in this thread I guess? (I would have to read back online). Regards. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Sorry for any confusion, that was not my point. Just for clarification: - I thought the old catalyst/fglrx-driver is still available for the old chips even though not maintained. But it seems as if they won't compile against newer kernels. - I know that the new amdgpu driver is only for modern cards. - *But* I also know that amd is pushing the opensource drivers radeon/amdgpu and those are in an actually pretty good state. The old fglrx driver is partly even performing worse than the opensource equivalent. So I wouldn't call this "dropping support". Btw, the RV620/630 (aka HD2600) should be supported too. I always buy amd cards as I never had any major compliant with the drivers. I cannot say this with nvidia or intel. So btt: As newer Mesa/XOrg should also support HDMI-audio, I would simply try it out, if I had an HD6310/6320. Chances are high that everything works perfectly out out of the box. Simon Am 29.07.2017 um 10:31 schrieb David C. Rankin:
On 07/28/2017 12:50 PM, Simon Heimbach wrote:
Hm. You're right. I thought the old chips are still supported, but I was wrong.
That's why I will never buy an ATI video card again (or laptop with an ATI card). They just "drop" all support for older products, users be damned. What was new a couple of years ago to ATI is suddenly "Legacy" and "Unsupported". Been though several iterations of this -- the first in Aug. 09 when all fglrx support for everything less that the 2600 series cards was just dropped. Poof - Sorry you bought that expensive laptop a few years ago, but...
Every nvidia card is still supported.
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:32:51 -0400
Ciro Iriarte
Does anybody have experience using HD 6310 GPUs with newer kernels?, I have and old E350M1/USB3 motherboard that would like to turn into a kodi appliance. I've seen a lot of bad reports regarding radeon opensource driver performance, has this been improved in newer kernels?.
Also, HDMI audio seems to be hit or miss. Would love to have some feedback on this.
In my experience those 'bad reports' would be valid. I have machines with HD5450 and HD6450 cards and with the open drivers, well, see for yourself by trying to drag a window around the screen and watch the gpu frantically try - and fail - to redraw as fast as you are dragging. IMHO, use the AMD drivers. Even though the AMD HD5xxx and HD6xxx drivers were last updated like two years ago they still far outperform the open drivers. Of course, with these you then have the annoyance of needing to reload the drivers every time the kernel and etc gets updated. On the HDMI audio can't help you. On the one card I use with an HDMI connection I have the audio disabled and use motherboard (intel) audio. HTH. Ralph ~> uname -a Linux msb4hp 4.4.74-18.20-default #1 SMP Fri Jun 30 19:01:19 UTC 2017 (b5079b8) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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